Only One Naked

[Lesneakyburrito]

Originally Posted by lygone

It IS becoming very rare in France, except on some secluded (and generally private) beaches, like around St Tropez. Slightly less rare in Spain, but even there it's really decreasing, especially among younger women. I've been in Spain twice last year (San Sebastian and around Barcelona), and spotting even only a few topless women at the beach was rather difficult.

About 10 to 15 years ago, it was so common that it was rather rare to spot women who were NOT topless at the beach in these countries...

What would you attribute this to? Awareness of the modern prevalence of digital cameras and websites like OCC?

Or is it some complex cultural/demographic shift?

[dixler]

Originally Posted by 1Mnue1

How do you mean topless bathing in Europe is becoming very rare? It definitely is not Spain France etc. Where do you base this claim from?

guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jul/22/topless-bathing-france

France falls out of love with topless sunbathing

But modern French 18- to 30-year-olds are rejecting toplessness, boosting the sales of two-piece bikinis and old-fashioned bathing suits.

[markholiday]

Originally Posted by Avarua

This is (most likely) the beach of Salinas / Sa Trinxa at Ibiza, where sights like this are not uncommon. First three pictures the same girl, with her friend. Plus a few more of the same beach.

These are Sa Trinxa, 100% sure as I've been to that beach every year for more than a decade, several times on each trip.

I would say that I've not often seen women as young and beautiful as the examples in those photos, that are nude right at the busy part of Sa Trinxa bar. Maybe once every 5 or so visits you may see one.

Instead the nude ones are more likely to bathe on the quieter section before you reach Sa Trinxa, where there is a stretch that is considered to be a nudist section. If you sit there most folk around you would expect you to be nude as well for etiquette, but even then it's not mandatory. But I always sit at the Sa Trinxa bar itself rather than make it blatantly obvious by sitting right in among the nudes, although as it's Ibiza it's true that most of them probably wouldn't care

But I have to say the majority of nudes there are male or old. When you do get young and pretty females like aforementioned, they are usually with their boyfriend/husband. However a couple of times I have seen groups of females all bathing nude together.

Agua Blanca is another beach in Ibiza that has a nude optional section, maybe about 1 in 3 are nude the times I've been. Last year I ended up having a couple and their 2 daughters who looked about 17-19 move next to me. The father and the 2 daughters were nude, the mother wasn't. They were jumping around in the waves nude too. No pics I'm afraid, I can't take camera to the beaches when I'm there on my own like I was on that occasion.

[markholiday]

For those worried that there may be less topless bathers in Western Europe, it's worth remembering that British girls on holiday in Spain and Greece are still bathing topless on the beach in high numbers. So go where they go

I can't comment on France or Scandinavia, but there are still plenty girls from European countries going topless in Ibiza. If you take the very busy section of Bora Bora at Playa den Bossa as an example, yes there are probably less topless there on average than there used to be. But if you stroll down the beach in either direction, you will still see plenty. The German girls there are most definitely still going topless in high numbers.

There are also a lot more Eastern Europeans in Ibiza these days, and plenty of them seem to be going topless.

[dixler]

Originally Posted by Avarua

This is (most likely) the beach of Salinas / Sa Trinxa at Ibiza, where sights like this are not uncommon. First three pictures the same girl, with her friend. Plus a few more of the same beach.

There have been similar "only one naked" pictures posted that were from nude in pubic websites that paid a model to be the only one naked on the beach (or at a beach shower in some recent posts to this board). I can't speak for this, but it is strange to me that they got pictures of her from every possible angle. Voyeurs tend to be stationary and close to ground level. But notice how her face is blurred in one of the photos. A pro website would not do that. I don't know what to think, but if it is voy it is a shame the guy blurred the face.

[Klondike]

I don't know how this discussion wound up in this thread, but it is interesting to read. Wish there was an ongoing thread down in the non-fiction section for these kinds of observations. I made a few myself last week (nude beach reports thread).

Women want a) control and b) company. Those are the two most important factors IMHO dictating where or how many go topless or nude.

And maybe c) anonyminity. My observations at Sauvie Island (collins beach) support that, and I also noticed people saying above that German and British girls are still traveling and going topless in large numbers at vacation destinations (where they can be anonymous).

Collins is remote by California standards and so its a good place for vacationers to get naked. Numbers are still pretty strong as is the nudity. California beaches like Baker don't get nearly the nudity now that Collins gets.

And so it is still a well known fact: No woman wants to be the only one naked or topless on a beach while being surrounded by a bunch of horny guys. Witness the destruction of practically every nude beach in California.....

I regret reading these reports, but know that social nudity will never die. This phenomena is NOT social nudity or rather it is the ABSENCE of social nudity that causes women to flee the beaches! They still want to get naked socially, but BEACHES CAN BECOME LIKE CITY PARKS - public places where ANYONE can show up, and thus ruin the comfortable, social atmosphere! Probably this is why the indoor locations are doing better - there is more security there. Anyway, with Europe allowing toplessness virtually everywhere, they probably over extended themselves. I see a future where there are fewer beaches allowing nudity, but those beaches are well maintained, policed, and guarantee all women comfort and security..

Klondike

[Shing]

Originally Posted by FKKFan

Now in the face of this retreat from public toplessness (and nudity), German saunabads are as popular as ever (if not more so); perhaps that's due to the management and respect that one affords others in such settings. You can sunbathe nude (and of course sweat like you're in hell) and lots (LOTS) of hot women choose to do so; there are a few public schwimmbads in the Freiburg area (university city) where you can enjoy the finest of sites...holidays are a magnet.

I can confirm this. Last Summer me and my wife spent a week in Bad Wildbad thermal baths (near Freiburg) and there was a good mix of sexes. Mostly 40-60yrs but there were a few 20-40s like me and my wife. I chronicled some of the better moments from that trip in this thread.

If I had the money (and I don't), I would create a thermal bath centre specifically designed to combat the move away from social nudity, I've got it all planned out in my head An initial clothing-optional area where guests can wear swimsuits if they wish, because I think it's key to provide a gateway to social nudity that is not forced, but which is pretty boring in comparison to the wonders that await in the enforced nudity areas beyond where there are saunas, spas, a bar, who knows maybe even freakin' waterslides and a rainforest in an enormous enclosed glasshouse if I had the money. Free entry to students to encourage participation by younger groups. Also from a PR point of view I think social nudity really doesn't sell itself as well as it could do: we have the opportunity to ally ourselves with the Arts, provide a space for artists to sketch nudes such as in the original gymnos in Ancient Greece and encourage nudity as a means to better health (which it is!). The thermal bath I went to last year in Bad Wildbad was decorated in Byzantine style mosaics and classical statuary, it was amazing. We know we already have our male following and I think it would also be important to cultivate a female following, provide strict anti-perv laws but obviously allow that relaxed flirting that inevitably occurs, maybe even hire groups of younger ladies just so the existing ones don't feel like the only ones!

/end dreaming

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