vacation in german sauna

[rudolfm]

Some more thoughts, if they have bouncers,

Be relaxed. Don't stare at them. Like cops, bouncers notice everybody who is tense and looking around. Stay in your happy bubble.

Wear good shoes. People who dress up to look more hip or whatever usually don't considere their shoes.

If nothing helps and you are in a queue, start chatting with a woman you'd never hook up with. Older, not your style or whatever. Let her talk, and walk in with her 😁 But only beforehand, once you're denied, only Shakira will get you in.

[lilslip33]

Originally Posted by rudolfm

It is not racist. In Germany there are many problems with men from Islamic countries. It is a cultural problem.

Would showing a USA or UK passport help, say for a middle-eastern looking guy to show he’s not actually from an Islamic country. What other tips are recommended if he’s going by himself?

[bartoli]

Originally Posted by lilslip33

Would showing a USA or UK passport help, say for a middle-eastern looking guy to show he’s not actually from an Islamic country. What other tips are recommended if he’s going by himself?

I don't know. But I think Brits and US are considered like prudes, and their presence in a sauna could be seen as unexpected. Better get a naturist card from your country and show it to the bouncers and ask if it allows a discount.

[translucent]

Originally Posted by lilslip33

Would showing a USA or UK passport help, say for a middle-eastern looking guy to show he’s not actually from an Islamic country. What other tips are recommended if he’s going by himself?

No, as it doesn't prove anything.

[rudolfm]

Don't try to prove your innocence, crooks do that 😆

Tell them you came all the way from San Francisco, Alaska, or where ever your home is. German friends told you thatbyoubmust see this wonderful and friendly place. Don't lie, they might for ask ID, but don't offer. If you behave well even though you were just rejected, that is what they expect from you when they let you in.

Naturist cards won't help, don't try.

At some places you can buy tickets online, do so. Don't haggle if they won't let you in, just politely ask for a refund as you can't come again another day. That should get you in.

[Grec]

If it's V in Berlin you're talking about just book early slots in the morning when it opens, no queue, no bodyguard.

[MattNL]

Originally Posted by Grec

If it's V in Berlin you're talking about just book early slots in the morning when it opens, no queue, no bodyguard.

It was. I also wasn't aware about that problem with men from Islamic countries. Didn't realize it was such a problem with harassment. Good tip with the slots. We went during a popular time which probably makes it even more difficult to get in for single (islamic) men.

One other tip would be to pretend you've already been there, or that your friends are inside like the guy in front of us stated. Just anything to make it seem like you've experienced some public nudity before.

[anonjohn]

Originally Posted by rudolfm

It is not racist. ... problems with men from Islamic countries ... cultural ... women who are lightly clothed or nude as fair game for respectless behavior and sexual assaults. These men need to be kept out of Saunas or the place will go down the drain. One big Sauna (Blubb) even had to close because of the women weren't safe. ... If the men have a woman with them, they uaually are let in and behave.

Doormen to keep undesirables out. Places closing because women don't feel safe (and therefore don't come -> women become a smaller minority -> the few more unwanted attention -> vicious spiral). Similar to some WNBR event photographer's behaviour?.

Men with the wrong expectations and attitude are the problem here: "women who are lightly clothed or nude as fair game". It's probably worse for men from Islamic (burqua), Incel, or "porno" cultures, who cannot separate sexual and non-sexual nudity or believe in male ownership or male superiority or have double standards of women as only virgins, wives or sl*ts.

We are on a porno site, our brains are in fantasy porno mode and we are thinking with our dicks. Don't be a dick in real life. The women there are not your harem wh*r*s because they have taken their clothes off to do something which is better done without clothes (like showering). Muslim women swimming in burqas is dangerous and sad.

Go to a sauna because you like sauna (even without femaile nudity). Don't visit expecting sex (the sexualized encounter stories are not typical). Think of the nudity as being more like an art gallery with nude paintings and sculptures rather than a porno film set. The women there are the normal range of ordinary real people you would find in a supermarket or worplace - mainly not porn actresses or swingers.

If we all behaved like gentlemen, then these places will continue in all their glory.

[rudolfm]

If you come from a prude place like most of the the US, visiting big German suanas will blow your mind. Hundreds of nude women of all types. Many men will see more nude women on one visit to the sauna than they have seen all their life. This is definitely a lifetime experience.
All you need to do is behave. Keep your eyes from popping out and your dick down. They have toilet stalls if you must rub it back down.. Have sex or rub before you go. Don't do anything sexual there. Behave, and you will have a wonderfull experience.

If there are bouncers, say a friendly "Guten Tag", don't hide your accent. Don't stare or ask to be let in. Treat them just as you would treat the cashier.

BTW, If you are into men, don't waste your time in a normal Sauna. Most larger cities have gay saunas, and these are meant for having sex.

For example: https://www.apollosauna.de/

[GioG]

A nude only Sauna i used to visit a lot in the past. Three walls wood, front wall with glass. I was already a few minutes inside, when two girls around 20 entered. Both long, dark hair. Quite skinny. Speaking italian, I suppose tourists. They both wore the white bathrobes the place lets people rent in the Sauna... Never seen this before. When an attendent walked by and saw the two girls, he came inside, and asked them if they can lower the top, just to make sure they wouldn't wear swimsuit underneath. Which they obviously did. He asked them to immediately step outside. I saw him point them towards the exit. They stood in the hallway and discussed. The attendent kept standing there, looking at them in a very bossy way. Was quite funny because at one point one of the girls hung the bathrobe on the hook at the wall and started to first remove her bikini bottoms, then pulling the knot open on the back of her bikini. The guy still stood there. She must have felt embarassed, because she put her arms infront of her breast. (huge difference in skin color - tan /non tanned skin. She turned towards her friend and talked to her. The other, still dressed girl was chewing her nails, looking unsure, scared, shy... Thats when the guy walked away. Second girl, took a heart and quickly got out of her bikini and back they came. Unfortunately they sat down in such a way I only got a peek of their bare asses... But the undressing scene itself was gold.