vacation in german sauna

[MattNL]

Originally Posted by rudolfm

Friday Spree, Sat.Vabali, Sun. Kristall. Forget Liqui and Trooical, not much nudity. Go afternoon/evening.
Also consider Wannsee or Müggelsee, both have nude beaches.

I wasn't aware there were nude beaches in Berlin. The wife is more into lounging by the pool but I'll make the suggestion! It also looks like our Friday schedule will be a bit too busy. Do you have experience with busyness on Thursday by any chance?

[ktmlondon2]

Originally Posted by MattNL

I wasn't aware there were nude beaches in Berlin. The wife is more into lounging by the pool but I'll make the suggestion!

I don't think it's what it used to be though. When I lived and worked there in the 1990s there were naked bodies all over any bit of green space when the sun came out - even visible from our office window. Nothing like that last time I was there though sadly

[rudolfm]

Wannsee and Müggelsee have been nude since around 100 years. And still are. Other places aren't anymore, but I didn't suggest those.

[MattNL]

Thanks for the feedback all. For all future travelers I'd like to share our experiences there! First up...

Liquidrom!

We went on a Thursday in the evening. They had a music event going on in the main pool which attracted a young crowd (20-30s). The main pool was textile, but the rest of the complex was optional, with the sauna's being fully textile free.

The first girl that stuck out was an Asian girl, somewhere in her mid 20s. She was quite short, easily one of the shortest girls there, but was still nicely developed with a firm B cup with practically no sag. She also had colored her hair blonde. In her face she had a few piercings, but nothing seemed pierced elsewhere. At least not as far as I could see, because what made her stand out so much was her pubic situation; she was sporting a very decent black bush. It was neatly trimmed, not too short, nor wild. But when it came to the bikini line she did the absolute minimal. As a result she had a very obvious black triangle which also continued down her lips a bit. How much down I sadly couldn't see.

There was also another Asian girl, possible Korean, but she was quite plain looking. B cups with a little sag. She also had a bush, that might have been untrimmed. But there simply wasn't that much hair so the other Asian girl's bush stood out more.

One African/black lady was there. She was a bit older, I guess mid 30s. She had probably the largest cup size there. I guess around a D cup (there really weren't busty woman there). They had quite a bit of sag to them. She had a bit of a wineglass figure with a big ass, and fully shaven pussy.

Besides that the crowd was all very German and white, with a few tourists here and there. A lot were hetero couples, with a few groups of men/woman and a few solo's.

There were about 5 girls there that all can be described basically the same; White, blonde, short, in their 20s, fit/skinny, A - B cups at the most, fully shaven, all with their BFs.

One of them had a very pretty face. She was with a BF that was a stereotypical gym rat, very tall and buff, including the tattoo's. it's not a correlation with dick size, but this guy had quite a large one. I imagine somewhere around 12 cm/4 inches flaccid.

There was also a guy there with what has to be some of the lowest hanging balls we've ever come across. His package was perhaps around 10-13 cm/3-4 inches flaccid, but his ball sack hung around 18 cm/7 inches low.

The largest guy we saw there was around 13 cm/5 inches flaccid, and as thick as the average erect dick. Most guys there were around 8 - 11 cm/2-3 inches and normal in thickness.

Finally there was a plain looking white girl, brunette, with a fuller figure. Not round, but from behind you might have mistaken her for a man. She was quite shy there so I didn't see her much except in the showers. She had a small cup, A at most, and had a full bush. I think she may do a bikini line, but probably hasn't trimmed it in a while.

In the main pool there were a few couples swimming close, but nothing that seemed like obvious sex. There is one warm bath that's a bit hidden around a corner. In there we did witness a couple having sex while there were a few people also in the bath. They weren't extremely obvious about it; they were wearing bathing clothes and weren't moving too obviously or making sounds, but you could notice them moving every now and then, looking at each other like they are doing something naughty, and before they left, hands went down to their bottoms to realign their clothes.

Overall it was a good experience. The crowd was all very young (20s to 30s). Also very decent ratio of men/woman. I recommend going on the Thursday, Friday or Saturday night. Around 3-4 hours is enough to spend here. There aren't too many sauna's or pools to enjoy so after a while you're just running in circles.

[MattNL]

Secondly there was Vabali (Berlin):

On a sunny day you'll see more here than in any other place in Berlin. Given the location you get the classic FKK's, but also tourists and couples that just want to treat themselves. Age wise it's a broad range from mid/late 20s to late 50s. Also of note is that it's mostly couples here, with just a few solo's in between. As a result the ratio is excellent. The pools are decent, and the sauna's are good, with great aufguss ceremonies (The sleep sound one is excellent to end the day with). The food and drinks are also excellent here. But be warned; all this does come with a price; we spent 8 hours there, and it cost us about 230 euro's in total.

If you go with a partner that's not too much into the nudity/spa thing, this is the place you bring her to. It's very much a relaxing treat to enjoy together.

Important for the single guys; They now have bouncers in front of the entrance. As a couple we got in without any troubles (they only asked if we reserved, which we did), but a few single guys got turned away. There was a well dressed single guy in front of us that greeted the bouncers politely first, and when asked if he went there before said yes, and that his friends were already inside. We didn't see him walk with others inside, so that was a lie, but hey, it got him through the door. If you look/dress decent (not like a thug) and act/reply like you're familiar with the FKK lifestyle that you'll probably be okay. Just don't say that it's your first time there or anything.

We really saw too much to mention here, all shapes, sizes, etc. If you want some specifics about something I'll gladly share what I remember.

[Jasahern3322]

Would love to hear about any foreign girls

Originally Posted by MattNL

Secondly there was Vabali (Berlin):

[MattNL]

Originally Posted by Jasahern3322

Would love to hear about any foreign girls

It was very different from Liquid, probably due to the different clientele in both venues. In terms of Asians there really only was one there: a petite (both in length as cup size) Chinese girl, fully shaven, and a bit shy. She was there with her German bf. I assume she herself was also from Germany. They were one of the few couples under 30.

A bit later there were a few Indians; one couple, and one single guy. The wife of the couple was probably in her 40s. She was a bit plum, with large (D), albeit saggy tits. She was surprisingly fully shaven, as was her husband.

There was also a middle-eastern woman there with another woman. I can only assume they were a couple. Very oddly the middle-eastern woman had a little armpit hair, but was fully shaven down below.

We didn't notice any black nudists here.

For the rest the whole place was mostly white German couples, mostly from ages 30 to 50.

[MattNL]

Finally there was kristall wohlfühltherme ludwigsfelde:

Now this is a true FKK paradise! We were only able to visit on the Sunday, which sounded a bit disappointed at first, since on Sunday till 17:30 swimsuits are allowed (in the pool, sauna's are still textile-free). But this turned out to be the best thing ever! Because swimsuits aren't mandatory during this period, you'll see a lot of fully naked people walking around in between all the swimsuit covered guests. For those that are very much into CFNM/CMNF, this place is an absolute heaven. Because of this rule you also see a lot of guests that clearly aren't used to the FKK way. What is also very nice is that around 17:30 all the swimsuits have to come off. While some guests move towards the exit by this point, many others will stay. Meaning that you'll get the incredible sight of seeing someone go fully naked for their first time. We loved seeing this! The people there are also the most diverse we've ever seen (it's an FKK pool after all). It really had all ages; from families all the way to a wheelchair bound, but fully naked (and shaven!) grandma. Also a lot of families, couples, singles and groups of men or woman. So whatever you are; you'll fit right in. Because it's an FKK pool there also isn't much privacy; showers for example are just a pole right in front of a pool exit. As a result you'll be seen naked continuously by many people, and visa versa.

We've seen many amazing sights here, some notable ones include:

The wheelchair bound grandma of course. She wasn't the nicest body to look at, but if anything encompasses the FKK experience it's this one. I had to take a peek if she shaved and was surprised to see she was fully bald! She would roll around the venue, indoors and outdoors, naked in the chair, and in sauna's would slowly get up and go inside. I didn't see how she handled showers since she left early on.

A 'typical' german mom, brunette, medium length hair, around B cup tits with a little sag in them. Down below she was fully shaven with quite visible pussy lips.

Her daughter was a lovely sight; teenager, also brunette like her mom, with her hair in a ponytail. She was very fit and had somewhere between an A and B cup. Down below she had a patch of black hair. A bit thicker than a landing strip, but no triangle. It was also well trimmed.

There also was a black woman there, somewhere in her late 30s. She was fully shaven and had probably the best ass there! Very round and just overall a really nice shape. Her tits were a decent B cup, with some sag in them. They bounced a bit, but I expected bigger tits with an ass that size.

The most gorgeous girl there was a teenager, around 18 I assume. She was blonde, with a well developed body. Not fit like an athlete, but enough in just the right places. She had the classic hourglass figure with great full ass and tits. Her C cups also had practically no sag and from the side had that classic 45/55 shape. Down below she was fully shaven.

One thing that got quite the looks (by all guests there) was a family; a mom and dad in their late 40s, both fully shaven, the mom had a decent B cup, with some sag in them, but not too much) and was pretty slim/thin. Dad was a bit hairy, with a bit of a belly, but not fat or anything. He had an average package. Their daughter was a teenager, blonde, B cup that were really firm, and she was also quite thin, like her mom. By the lack of tanlines this family were maybe nudists? What made so many guests look/stare when this group walked by was the grandpa; he was old, probably in his 70s? He also wasn't the fastest walker clearly. Body wise it's about what you expect with the loose skin, quite thin and was fully shaven. But dear god, he may have had one of the largest/thickest penises that ever existed! I think this monstrosity was flaccid almost 20 cm/8 inches long, and as thick as one of those tall slim soda cans. It was big enough that he had to physically hold it before he sat down on the sauna bench! If he's a shower it's still a massive cock, but looking at the wrinkles on that thing he might grow to 10 inches or even bigger. There wasn't a grandma there; He might have split her open a long time ago with that baseball bat.

Overall we liked Kristall the most. The crowd is very diverse, they have the biggest pools, many sauna's, both indoors and outdoors, a good garden, good food/drinks (Vabali was better, but pricier), lot's of loungers to relax in, and a lot of places to look and be looked at. Although it's FKK there are many people walking around with towels wrapped, so if you don't want to walk naked continuously, you won't have to. Kristall is the furthest from Berlin though, so take that into account. From the HBF it's about 30 minute by train, with another 25 minute walk. We recommend at least 4 hours there (we stayed almost 7 hours), so you're looking at a day trip to Ludwigsfelde. We only experienced it on the Sunday, so can recommend that day. Perhaps other days might see more people walk unwrapped, but you might miss the crowd that wouldn't dare to go try their first time on a fully naked day. This also works the other way around; If you aren't used to going nude, going on Sunday can help you get comfortable on your own tempo. At 17:30 you can then decide if you want to go all the way or not. Many did

[wownice]

Originally Posted by MattNL

Finally there was kristall wohlfühltherme ludwigsfelde:

Just clicking thanks didn't seem enough to show appreciation for your multiple reports. Sounds like you had good times with your GF.

Curious, was she into it as you were, did you have to convince her to try them? What she uncomfortable at first? I'm just gauging to see if I can convince my wife to go. We've been to one or two hotel spas, clothing optional, but the ones you went to are the real deal. Just don't know how she'll react to being naked with some many people - seeing so many naked people, and being seen naked by so many people.

Anyways, thank you for the reports!

[MattNL]

Originally Posted by wownice

Just clicking thanks didn't seem enough to show appreciation for your multiple reports. Sounds like you had good times with your GF.

Curious, was she into it as you were, did you have to convince her to try them? What she uncomfortable at first? I'm just gauging to see if I can convince my wife to go. We've been to one or two hotel spas, clothing optional, but the ones you went to are the real deal. Just don't know how she'll react to being naked with some many people - seeing so many naked people, and being seen naked by so many people.

Anyways, thank you for the reports!

She's not into the whole voyeur/exhibitionism scene (although I've noticed her taking peeks), but does like the whole pampering, fancy drinks by the pool, relaxing spa day. Since you two have already done spa's before I think your best bet is probably Vabali. While it was pricy, it was a very upscale place. You can probably bring it up as a treat / romantic/relaxing couples spa day for the two of you.

Also the nudity there isn't too extreme, since most people wear robes when walking. Although be warned: If it's a very sunny day there might be a lot of disrobed people suntanning in the garden area. That might be a shock to her. As far as going naked it's no different to any other spa; naked in sauna's, and a public shower after. After that she can put the robe back on. There are pools there that are fully naked, but you're covered by water.

Something more extreme would be Kristall, but I wouldn't recommend that for her first time. It's also less of a proper spa, and more something between a pool and spa.