CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.

[Cigar4u]

Hi Hans:

I can feel the frustraton in your writing.

If you recall, I tried this very thing on this very thread a few months ago by posting photographs to encourage story writing by others. It was like talking to a wall. I got not one single reader to contribute to that project -- not one. Talk about your bloody failures.

And Abby, I appreciate you contributing even just to ask someone else to write something. Not everyone is confident enough to write, including continuing a story that someone else started.

Contrary to what some might think, I am not a story-writing, photo-posting machine. I can't complete every unfinished story or post every photo that has ever been taken of CFNF wrestling. I'm just not that talented or dedicated to the cause. No one is on any one subject.

I've said this at least a half dozen times -- I didn't start this thread to show off how much CFNF wrestling material I have or whatever talent I have for writing stories. I started it hoping to find others who share my particular taste in the fetish wrestling genre and hopefully, like me, post material others might not have.

Hemo 101 and a few others have done that and I am grateful they have. Now, for whatever reason, Helen I see is contributing more to other threads than to this one. Perhaps she, like me, has pretty much posted every non-watermarked photo she has on CFNF fighting. Or perhaps she wants to concentrate more on her own thread -- Only One Naked -- and others.

That's cool. But I have to say that this thread really misses her contributions and I hope she locates and adds some new stuff here as soon as she can.

Hans, for a while Helen and I were working together on what I thought was a really neat CFNF fight-themed story via email. After a lot of prep work last year, the story has since been moved to the backburner. So even two people who are really into this fetish don't always come to fruition when it comes to writing stories.

With that in mind, Hans, you cannot expect casual observers of this thread to take up your challenge and finish your story with the same degree of passion that you have for it. It's just not going to happen.

I wrote recently that I was cutting back on my contributions to this thread out of fear that by writing so much I was dominating the thread that I started, thus making some people feel uncomfortable contributing to it. That can sometimes happen when someone has an overpowering personality like me. (That's a polite way of saying I'm pretty much an assh*le!)

Although I love this thread, I've come to accept that it is just not as popular as I once thought it was or would be. I've written that before and more and more I have come to accept it as being true.

I've become more understanding of fetish wrestling video producers out there who stick with making the same stale standard stuff that works and have become far more appreciative of the handful of producers who take a gamble and make one-sided CFNF matches. With such an apparent small audience, they are taking a huge risk financially.

There is an old American saying that you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. The same is true here. All you can do, Hans, is start a story and hope that others contribute to it. You can't force them to do it.

Some people join these message boards to download a bunch of photos and stories to their collections and truly feel that there is no reason for them to give anything back. I much imagine they are the same selfish dastards who cut in front of others in lines or cut you off on the highways. That's just human nature and none of us are going to change that.

All we can hope for is to continue contributing to this thread and attract a new breed of ENF lovers to this message board -- the kind who like seeing a female wrestler stripped of her bathing suit and forced to endure utter naked humiliation at the hands of a clothed rival as opposed to members who prefer photos of women peeing and other toilet-themed threads.

[hanskumoekk]

I can see your point. All I tried to do, was to make an initiative. If someone want to write on on my story, they are welcome. But do they have to? No, of course not.

I also has a great desire for this thread to live on, and therefore I want to contribute. In different ways - with my own stories, or encouraging others to write too. It's up to them if they want to.

When having said that, I'm working on something new material myself now. I'm kind of stuck right now, though. Any ideas of scenarios I can write about?

[Cigar4u]

Hi Hans:

There is a line from the Billy Crystal/Danny DeVito movie "Throw Mama From The Train" that goes: "A writer writes."

I have been a professional writer all my adult life, working for newspapers and magazines. There is nothing like the threat of not getting a paycheck by missing a deadline that does wonders for overcoming writers block.

Of course, writing for this thread and doing other forms of recreational writing carries no such pressure. So why put yourself under any pressure to write?

The key to breaking writers block in this case is to NOT put yourself under any pressures of meeting a self-imposed deadline.

Do not sit down and say I am going to write 1,000 words today. When you make writing like a job or hard work, it's no longer fun.

Step away from the keyboard. Relax. Close your eyes and clear your head. Let your ideas and imagination flow -- let them run wild!

When you get a good idea, don't immediately feel pressured to write a whole story around it.
Write out just that one scenario. Before too long you will think of other ideas to go with it as you develop your characters, a lead and a conclusion. If it takes a while to do this, so what? You are under no deadlines here.

Write about people you know -- a b*tchy ex-girlfriend getting kicked between the legs by a superheroine like Angelina Jolie's Laura Croft, a sexy aunt in a gold lame gown beating up an exotic stripper in a nightclub, a teacher catching a co-ed classmate smoking in the girls room after school and teaching her a humiliating lesson she will never forget!

Last night on the American TV show "Desperate Housewives," the Teri Hatcher character stole a string of pearls from the rival Dana Delany character, who was coming out of her shower wearing only a towel. Fully clothed Teri then walked briskly out of Dana's house with the pearls, followed by the near naked Dana in hot pursuit.

Dana grabbed Teri by the hand holding the pearls just as Teri grabbed Dana's towel and threatened her by saying: "Pearls or towel?"

The scene ended somewhat disappointingly as the two women discussed why Teri's ex-husband gave Dana the pearls instead of using the money to pay tuition in an expensive private school for Teri's and her ex-husband's son.

My imagination, however, allowed me to take the scene in a whole new direction and included a sharp yank on Dana's towel followed by a one-sided catfight on the streets of Wysteria Lane between fully clothed Teri and totally naked Dana.

Also, Hans, write about things and places you know. They make great backdrops for your subjects. Don't struggle with places with which you are unfamiliar.

For eaxmple, I was once asked to write about a catfight on a yacht for this message board. I don't know anything about yachts, other than the bow, stern, starboard and port. I don't know what the various size ropes are called. I don't know the technical terms for varous types of rigging. I don't know what the varous masts are called.

I felt uncomfortable writing about that location because I simply did not know enough about yachts and really did not have the desire to learn about them. I did not want to write myself into a corner and be forced to describe surroundings with which I am unfamiliar. As a result, I didn't write that story.

(In Throw Mama From the Train, a student in professor Crystal's writing class wrote a story about submarines, writing something to the effect that "the captain pushed the thingy and the ship submerged." Crystal's character later told the student that if she was going to write about submarines it would have been a good idea for her to learn the technical term for the submerging button. It certainly was not called a "thingy!")

Hans, I see from your previous writings that you like tennis. The women's pro tennis tour goes to many exotic places in Europe that you may have visited or know about -- places away from the tennis court.

When not playing tennis, the women undoubtedly visit beaches in their briefest of bikinis, hang out at exotic hotel pools or even kick back in luxurious locker room suites before matches -- all fine locations to serve as backdrops for one-sided CFNF fights.

I believe you once wrote that you like cheerleaders. I know it has been done before, but naked catfighting cheerleaders never gets old. It's a gift that keeps on giving.

And even if, in the end, only you like what you have written, that's all that matters -- at least when it comes to recreational writing. But take heart, Hans, because I have found that if you do a good job and please yourself, you will find an audience that also enjoys your work.

Good luck to you, Hans, and to all others who aspire to write good stories about this subject and others. And remember, "a writer writes."

[Cigar4u]

For a really great CFNF wrestling story, go to the erotic stories category under the fiction thread.

It's called Beach B*tch and it's about two college co-eds getting into a one-sided fight at a beach during the Independence Day weekend.

One gal strips a tall, snooty and attractive gal of her red string bikini.

I wrote a note that the story should have been posted here and encouraged the writer to come to our site and post stories like that here.

[sceej56]

Weather permitting, Lisa will be fighting under the auspices of STJ ... one of the leading videographers of female combat. Her opponent will be perhaps the greatest of Double Trouble schooled wrestlers, Julie Winchester ...and ... it is a special "Winner Strips Loser" match! Thought it might be of interest?

[Cigar4u]

Thanks for the heads up Sceej.

I have long admired the photographic work of Stan The Joker, who has been on the Internet since its infancy.

Long before every video company had a website, Stan The Joker -- STJ -- was providing reports about available fetish wrestling products via the old news groups, to which many of us no longer subscribe. But in the early 90s the popularty for female fetish wrestling never would have developed to the level it has reached today without those old news groups like alt.binaries.pictures.female.wrestling and others to which STJ was a regular contributor.

Those were the days long before many of us had a clue about how to upload photos to the internet and we anxiously awaited STJ's image postings. He led the way. We salute STJ for his many contributuons, especially the many photos he has taken to preserve historic Double Trouble Production matches.

Where exactly is this match being held?

Given Lisa's penchant for winding up nude in most of her recent matches vs. a bikini-clad rival, it is almost a foregone conclusion that Ms. Comshaw will put Julie over and surrender her suimsuit.

As for Lisa's work with Les Femmes Fatales Productions, I am still awaiting the delivery of "Sn*tch Grapple Revenge" featuring Robin dominating Lisa. Unfortunately, in email correspondence with Robin, the owner of LFFP, she has informed me that she never received my money order in the mail. It probably was stolen.

I'll likely be reordering the video next week with use of a credit card. Robin has told me she would honor the Januay sales price of $18.95 (including postage and handling) even though the current price is the regular retail cost of $48.95 (inc. p&H).

I'll also be ordering in the near future Robin beating Lisa again in one of LFFP's latest videos "LaPoolLoser."

This time the bikini-clad lasses are at poolside, where pool cleaner Lisa accidnetally soaks employer Robin with a hose only to get stripped and beaten for her clumsiness. I understand in both videos Robin twists Lisa's nipples and attacks her pubic area!

I'll post reviews of both videos here in the near future.

Sceej, if you are going to the Julie vs. Lisa fight this weekend, could we get a report on the live show sometime next week? We'd love to hear the details.

[Cigar4u]

Here are some recent finds of CFNF wrestling material on the internet:

--In the first two photos, Santana torments Nefertiti and works over her boobs:

-- Lisa Comshaw naked; Lisa is tortured after losing a one-sided fight to a blonde; Lisa wins a CFNF match for a change.

-- A painful and humiliating form of neckbreaker in animation.

-- A series of four animation photos where a large clothed woman demolishes a nude woman in pink boots in the ring:

[MSG]

Originally Posted by sceej56

Weather permitting, Lisa will be fighting under the auspices of STJ ... one of the leading videographers of female combat. Her opponent will be perhaps the greatest of Double Trouble schooled wrestlers, Julie Winchester ...and ... it is a special "Winner Strips Loser" match! Thought it might be of interest?

Thanks for the tip, Sceej.
Did you get to watch the match live, or get a copy of it? Who won? That is...
Who stripped who, & how much? (full nudity?)
& how many spectators were there to enjoy such a spectacle?
Any photos, clips, or personal recounts are greatly welcome. Am I right, guys?

[MSG]

Originally Posted by Cigar4u

Thanks for the heads up Sceej.
I have long admired the photographic work of Stan The Joker, who has been on the Internet since its infancy.
Long before every video company had a website, Stan The Joker -- STJ -- was providing reports about available fetish wrestling products via the old news groups, to which many of us no longer subscribe. But in the early 90s the popularty for female fetish wrestling never would have developed to the level it has reached today without those old news groups like alt.binaries.pictures.female.wrestling and others to which STJ was a regular contributor.
Those were the days long before many of us had a clue about how to upload photos to the internet and we anxiously awaited STJ's image postings. He led the way. We salute STJ for his many contributuons, especially the many photos he has taken to preserve historic Double Trouble Production matches.

Where exactly is this match being held? Given Lisa's penchant for winding up nude in most of her recent matches vs. a bikini-clad rival, it is almost a foregone conclusion that Ms. Comshaw will put Julie over and surrender her suimsuit.

As for Lisa's work with Les Femmes Fatales Productions, I am still awaiting the delivery of "Sn*tch Grapple Revenge" featuring Robin dominating Lisa. Unfortunately, in email correspondence with Robin, the owner of LFFP, she has informed me that she never received my money order in the mail. It probably was stolen.

I'll likely be reordering the video next week with use of a credit card. Robin has told me she would honor the Januay sales price of $18.95 (including postage and handling) even though the current price is the regular retail cost of $48.95 (inc. p&H).
I'll also be ordering in the near future Robin beating Lisa again in one of LFFP's latest videos "LaPoolLoser."
This time the bikini-clad lasses are at poolside, where pool cleaner Lisa accidnetally soaks employer Robin with a hose only to get stripped and beaten for her clumsiness. I understand in both videos Robin twists Lisa's nipples and attacks her pubic area!

I'll post reviews of both videos here in the near future.

Sceej, if you are going to the Julie vs. Lisa fight this weekend, could we get a report on the live show sometime next week? We'd love to hear the details.

Hey C4u, thanks for the STJ history. Credit belongs where it is deserved, especially to pioneers of our penchants.
I look forward to your Lisa fight (& hopefully loss) reviews, and if it is at all possible to share any stills or clips from either of them...? Watching Lisa lose a hard-fought match only to be stripped completely naked (right down to her bare feet), spanked, abused, tortured, mocked & humiliated drives me absolutely nuts!
( Partly from living vicariously through her, & jealousy that she has the courage to subject herself to this divine degradation over & over again, for all of our benefit! God bless you Lisa! xo)

[MSG]

OMG, that was dumb. I totally meant LISA.
(Who the hell is Jill? hah. Freudian slip. lol) Sorry gang. *blushing*

Perhaps I should be "punished" (like Lisa) for my mistake?