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Old 12-03-2008, 07:34 PM
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Hey WTF I know I posted this earlier! ! !

" Hmmm. . . seems you were able to work in a bit of cfnm in your wonderful tale Ciggie.

Bravo! ! Excelent work."

Love

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Old 12-06-2008, 12:07 AM
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Default CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.

Here are some recent CFNF fight internet finds:

-- Clothed blonde Nazi woman tortures defeated nude brunette foes from unknown source.

-- Party girls amused while sexually torturing a naked rvial from unknown source.

-- Bikini clad Asian woman outwrestles nude opponent from Academy Productions.

-- Robin in blue bikini defeats naked Lisa Comshaw from Les Femmes Fatales.
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Old 12-19-2008, 10:07 PM
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I decided not to contribute to this thread for two weeks just to see what would happen. Nothing. That’s what happened.

Nobody has contributed so much as a new photo or a sentence-long post.

I cannot tell you, my fellow CFNF fight fetish enthusiasts, how discouraged and disappointed I am by the lack of response and contributions outside of what I, Hemo101 and a couple of others have made since I began this thread in August.

I went through all of the old posts on this thread today before I wrote this message and saw that so many different members have thanked me and others for what we have posted.

I also read messages from some readers who have encouraged this thread to continue and not fade away as many other ENF threads have.

But I also came to realize that so few of you have contributed photos or stories to keep this thread alive.
I started this thread because there was nothing else on this ENF message board like it and I believed there were many others who shared the same ENF fantasy I do about one-sided CFNF fights.

And I wanted to encourage fetish wrestling video producers to make more CFNF videos by showing them there was a strong untapped market out there. I guess I have failed at that.

The initial response to this thread was quite encouraging. For a while we were even snowballing with contributions from a number of message board members.

But perhaps we have run the course with this subject. Perhaps this thread has become worn out. The visits are down and the postings outside of what I write have been reduced to zilch – at least during the last two weeks.
We could kid ourselves and blame it on people being too busy during the Christmas season to take the time to post. But I serously doubt that is the reason for the lack of response.

The reason is far more simple than that: Clothed female vs. nude female fighting just is not as popular as I thought it was.

I have come to that conclusion after spending a good deal of time the last couple of weeks reading and studying other threads on this message board and trying to get a better grasp of what this ENF fetish is all about.

ENF indeed is diverse and somewhat complex – from fun and campy, which I like, to outright disgusting.

For example, I do not understand why the girls caught peeing thread is so popular, yet that thread has more than one million visits. CFNF wrestling at the rate it is going will never get a quarter of that number.

I do not wish to be critical of girls peeing or any other fetish, but I just don’t understand what’s so sexy about a woman sitting on a toilet.

Some peeing fans I guess could argue that they are just as offended seeing a photo of a clothed woman triumphantly posing with her foot on the pubic bone of a naked defeated rival following a fight.

I can accept that, though I don’t agree. I feel there is nothing more disgusting than bodily plumbing functions being captured for eternity on film – even if the photo is of a pretty woman pissing or defecating.

But, whether I understand that fetish or not, I have to accept that the girls peeing thread is mainstream ENF – no pun intended – while my CFNF wrestling thread, which I think is a thousand times sexier than women’s toilet habits, is just a fringe kink of the ENF fetish.

Another example that demonstrates the lack of popularity of this thread and its subject is that the plain CFNF thread that was started on June 25, 2008 -- just two months before I began CFNF wrestling – has 90,000 more hits than this similar, albeit more violent, thread.

CFNF wrestling hasn’t even hit the 90,000 visit mark yet.

I have often written that I could not understand why producers of fetish wrestling videos do not produce more CFNF matches. Now I do.

The sad fact is that the CFNF wrestling festish that I thought would draw tremendous response from ENF enthusiasts simply is not all that popular.

In an effort to find my true audience, I recently started a CFNF fights thread on a catfight message board – the one that is listed first on a Google search under “catfight message boards.”

Unfortunately, that board appears to be somewhat new and has so few members it is difficult to draw any concusions at this time. I can only report that the initial response to a story I posted and a bunch of CFNF photos has been tremendously disappointing – even more so than here.

But through it all I also have come to the conclusion that even if there is just one other person who shares the fetish of seeing one woman dominate and strip another woman naked in a fight then I will keep on doing what I can to generate interest through this thread and others.

However, I will be doing it on a much more limited basis until interest among others who share my love of CFNF combat picks up.

To those of you who have written that you want to keep this thread going, I can only respond that you and others have to start contributing more than just writing “let’s keep this thread alive.”

Maybe some of you just don’t know how to contribute.

When I started this thread, I did not know how to post a message or how to upload photos.

I quickly learned how to start a thread and I eventually learned how to post photos. Though I was intimidated at first, I eventually found both procedured to be quite easy.

Since I learned to upload photos, I have posted many CFNF fight photos for which a number of you have given thanks.

If you have photos in your documents file that fit the theme of this thread -- and have not been previously posted here -- and you want to post them but don’t know how, I will be happy to give you step-by-step instructions on how to upload photos.

If you like writing CFNF fight-themed stories but are not confident that you have written a particular story well, click on the “private message” link in the top right corner of this page and send your story to me. I will edit it for you and return it to you with suggestions for rewrites so that you can later post the finished product to this thread with pride.

I will continue to post CFNF fight stories as I write them and photos as I come across them. But until I see some real effort by others to contribute new material, I will not be posting here as often.

After all, another of my reasons for starting this thread was that I would see and add new photos to my archive. That’s the thing about a fetish. You yearn to see new stuff all of the time. I’m no different than the rest of you when it comes to that.

Sadly, however, I have given a lot and received so little from this thread. I know there has to be more out there than what I, Hemo101 and a few other dedicated souls have posted. I’d like to see what the rest of you who like this type of material have got.

There are many threads on this message board where people have posted candid ENF beach shots and nude shots of ordinary folks on vacation.

I’m surprised no one has shared any candid material of real fights they have seen or images of self-produced CFNF fights. I thought by the 22nd or 23rd page of this thread we’d have seen something like that posted.

In this day of cell phone cameras and other digital devices I cannot believe that no one out there has candid shots of a clothed woman and a naked woman playfully wrestling or engaged in a real catfight that they could post.

I also thought by now people would have shared more real life experiences of one-sided catfights or fantasy fights between celebrities similar to the Liz Hurley vs. Diane Kruger and the Jackie Kennedy vs. Marilyn Monroe fight stories I wrote and posted.

Although writing stories well is difficult for some, you don’t need to be a professional writer to describe your fantasies. I’d like to read some of those thoughts, even poorly written accounts.

I would love to see five posts a day to this thread by five different people – even if it is just a single photo or a three-paragraph note describing an incident seen in real life or in a fantasy fight.

That may be a bit ambitious, but zero posts over a two-week period just does not encourage me to go out of my way to keep this thread going.

I can only say that if the CFNF wrestling thread dies because of a lack of interest and contributions, then so be it. I have a clear conscience that I did my part to promote and improve this thread – and keep it alive.

Along those lines – and as thanks for taking the time to read my rant -- here are some CFNF fight photos I recently found on the ‘Net.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:15 AM
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I agree with you. Two things: one, to satisfy me, it would have to really be a fight - not to hurt, though. Women rolling around in bikinis pretending to fight as they slowly untie each others bikinis doesn't do it. Two, it may be hard to get even willing amateurs to go at it that hard.

So first you have to motivate them: prize money is always good for that sort of thing. It's not whether you pay the loser or not - it's how much more she gets for winning. Though if she gets too much for losing she might give in quick if she thinks she can't win.

Second you have to make sure that there's motivation to make it humiliating beyond just "i lost my wet-tshirt in this bowl of mud". Maybe scavenger hunt-style - she has to score, in the eyes of the judges, a nude boob-slap, a titty twist, and a nothing-to-hide elbows-to-ears pin. Or a genital pinch that causes a tap-out. Or a forced penetration with an object. Or submitting the loser to a real humiliation like remaining nude in stocks for some time after the match.

I still see the GGW type of audience as the thing to make this happen - sooner or later, someone will want to do that type of video and dig into the wrestling kink just to differentiate themselves.
Ultimate Surrender already has a lot of what you're talking about covered.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:22 AM
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-- Bikini clad Asian woman outwrestles nude opponent from Academy Productions.
Do you have more like this? I appreciate the actual wrestling in it.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:17 PM
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Hi Ciggie!

Look what I got for you and the rest.

Sorry for the quality, but I hope it meets with your approval.

Love

Helen



http://www.megaporn.com/video/?v=W7653LQU
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:42 PM
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-- Party girls amused while sexually torturing a naked rvial from unknown source.

-- Robin in blue bikini defeats naked Lisa Comshaw from Les Femmes Fatales.
Nice.

I know this has probably been said a hundred times in this thread, but there really is nothing like seeing(or should I say imagining, since there doesn't seem to be a lot of videos on the subject) a catfight in which one of the women is stripped naked and humiliated, all while her opponent remains fully clothed and really goes out of her way to further humiliate the naked woman in various ways, eg. giving the naked woman a good spanking.

I'm writing a CFNF catfight story right now and I'll post it when finished. I may also try doing some CFNF catfight drawings, so if anyone has a sweet image in their head of a naked woman being humiliated in a CFNF catfight, decribe it to me. I may try getting that image on paper. I am not making any promises that I'll post it, however, as I have not had a real lot of experience doing nudes, though I have done many portraits of clothed women. I do not post work that I am not satisfied with.

Great thread.
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:57 AM
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Hey everyone.

I'm writing a fictional CFNF story with fictional characters right now, just for you guys. I have been writing for some days now, and I think it will be finished in some days. I'm a huge sports fan as you might have guessed before, so it will take place in a stadium. That's all you'll get to know by now.

Stay tuned!
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Old 12-30-2008, 06:39 AM
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Hi Hans!

We await with bated breath your soon to be:

a. Obra maestra;

b. Tour de force;

c. Work of art; or

d. All of the above
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Old 12-30-2008, 06:46 AM
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I'm actually finishing it right now. I think I will post it earlier than I expected. Maybe already today, if I am lucky!
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