Naked Bike Ride Part 1 is this weekend!!!!

[ph111lll]

There are three short videos at: http://www.freefilms1.com and these snaps were from the same photographer. Hoping more will be posted on flikr.

Best wishes everyone.

Phil

[ph111lll]

some more...

[ph111lll]

last three so far...

[Klondike]

Originally Posted by crispus

...where a good search term is "ciclonudista"; there's also a gallery at http://www.20minutos.es/galeria/4413/0/0 PS to Klondike: The woman in #7 apparently hasn't read the same message you did!

What number 7? Pic number? Post number? huh?

EDIT: Oh, number 7 in the linked gallery. Still, I'm not sure what you mean. No one is punching out a photographer, anyway....

Klondike

[KarlMalone]

Love the pics! Keep em coming!

[Klondike]

I attended the Eugene, Oregon ride tonight. It was a little disappointing, but not a complete loss. Showing some nudity were perhaps 15-20 women of which maybe 5 were fully nude. I had expected a better turnout, but it was fun anyway. As for pics? I snapped a few and tried to take some movies. All of them suck. It seemed most of the women sort of hid in the bushes or something until the ride got underway, so hardly any were hanging out in the park before hand. Then, at the end of the ride, everyone dressed very quickly.

All told, there were probably 100 riders, all young. The enthusiasm was there, but the female nudity wasn't that much in evidence. I may post a movie, but it will only show some very blurry boobs. I don't have the skill or gear to do proper nighttime shooting.

Klondike

[Lamadin]

Please do post what ya got... Blurry boobs are better than no boobs.

[delay]

I don't want to take away from our favourite pastime, but...we should not lose perspective: whether nude or non-nude, it is always rude to take a stranger's photograph and post it without their knowledge and permission. Technically, if you want to use a photo of someone else, you should ask them to sign a release form. Isn't it the transgression of these boundaries of privacy that makes one a voyeur?
I enjoy these shots, don't get me wrong!! But there is also something exciting when you know that someone is willingly sharing their own naked image, for example on photobucket....

Originally Posted by Klondike

On the eve of the first WNBR weekend of the year, I found this commentary on the rider-photographer relationship from a RIDER'S point of view. This came up in a SF-WNBR discussion group. Read on, especially if you are contemplating attending a ride as a photographer. I found it quite interesting....

I think that some of us are losing sight of the 'bigger picture'
> here. The purpose of the nudity in this and other similar protests is
> to gain attention to the cause. This includes photographers, and yes -
> posting the pics on the internet. Your participation in the event is
> essentially tantamount to releasing your image into the public
> domain. We thank you for that. And their participation in the event
> is CRUCIAL to making the event an effective means of reaching the
> public's attention. If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is
> there to see it ...
>
> It's a slippery slope to start assigning values and motives to various
> photographers - some you like, some you don't. These things are out
> of our collective hands. As for "prurient" or "pornographic" matters,
> let's face it - not many people are that much of a turn-on. Those
> that are more fit and young and attractive will garner more attention
> than those that are perhaps older or plumper. Ever has it been thus.
> But yet we thank everybody for their participation equally.
>
> There are also (usually) photographers and participants
> from 'clothesfree.com' - another "for profit" website, yet they don't
> seem to create the same level of resentment - presumably because
> their 'bent' is geared to the naturist lifestyle. So one group's
> motives are perceived as more pure than the other, yet they're both
> doing the same thing. Who wants to volunteer as hall monitor for
> which photographers are "okay" and which are spurned? Who wants to
> create an ugly scene with recriminations and public opprobrium?
>
> I'll pass. Me? I'm going to participate in the event with full
> knowledge that people are photographing the event and that I have zero
> control over how these photos are distributed. Through the past few
> years, the demeanor and comportment of the participants are one of the
> most remarkable aspects of this event. Everybody's cool and there
> doesn't seem to be a lot of tension or edginess. It's upbeat - let's
> keep it that way and not get caught up in petty squabbles about the
> photographers.
>
> Some one said it earlier and of course it's absolutely true - if you
> don't wish to be photographed naked in public, don't get naked in
> public. But if you do, do not presume to be able to dictate who can
> or cannot take photos - or create public scenes about inappropriate
> behavior while you're standing naked in the middle of the city.
>
> Let's have some fun while we're changing the world. Looking forward


So there you have it - a very reasoned and intelligent analysis. Bikers can 1) expect to be photographed, 2) not have any control over what happens to the pics and 3) not pick and choose who does and doesn't have the right to take pics...

i think I knew this anyway, but its good to hear it from a riders point of view.

KLondike
> to it.

[free_tibet]

Originally Posted by delay

I don't want to take away from our favourite pastime, but...we should not lose perspective: whether nude or non-nude, it is always rude to take a stranger's photograph and post it without their knowledge and permission. Technically, if you want to use a photo of someone else, you should ask them to sign a release form. Isn't it the transgression of these boundaries of privacy that makes one a voyeur?
I enjoy these shots, don't get me wrong!! But there is also something exciting when you know that someone is willingly sharing their own naked image, for example on photobucket....

Actually you only need to get a model release when you are going to use the photos for advertising, a book, etc.. If you are in a public place anyone can take your picture. And anyone can post it on the internet where it becomes part of the "public domain." You DON'T have a right or expectation of Privacy when you are in public, especially if/when you are walking around or riding a bike Naked. Some people would say it's "rude" to be naked in public.

[Klondike]

Originally Posted by delay

I don't want to take away from our favourite pastime, but...we should not lose perspective: whether nude or non-nude, it is always rude to take a stranger's photograph and post it without their knowledge and permission. Technically, if you want to use a photo of someone else, you should ask them to sign a release form. Isn't it the transgression of these boundaries of privacy that makes one a voyeur?
I enjoy these shots, don't get me wrong!! But there is also something exciting when you know that someone is willingly sharing their own naked image, for example on photobucket....

I am not an expert on this topic, but one must bear in mind a few things. First, is it "always rude" when those you are photographing have been advised beforehand that photography will take place and images will be uploaded? That is exactly why I posted the discussion that you quoted. Riders here are fully informed and given options such as not to ride at all, wear less revealing clothing, etc. No one is sneaking pics from behind bushes here, and these are not girls walking down the street. They are participants in a public event which is KNOWINGLY PHOTOGRAPHED, and even more importantly, photographed to the benefit of the cause to which they are addressing.

There is a world of difference between this type of public nude photography, and typical voyeur photography. To be honest, what photographers like me do most of the time is operate in a sort of grey area between voyeur and model photography. Sometimes, dependant on the event, it may seem more like voyeur photography. But at other times, and this is one of those "other times", it is a lot more like model photography.

As a general rule, I believe riders in the WNBR and especially the Fremont Parade are "willingly photographed" just as your photobucket model is. Not so during bodypainting I have learned, but while riding - YES! And as for the legality - it is 100 percent legal. No release forms are required!

also, what Free_tibet said......

Now having said all this, I do agree that photographers ALWAYS need to be consciencous and informed not only about the rules and legalities of things, but to be sensitive to the situation at all times. There is a code of conduct, and I personally am offended when i see other photogs break it. The discussion I posted was actually touched off by concerns over a photographer's plan to rent a motorcycle and driver so that he could tag along and shoot riders from three feet away!

KLondike