End of topless sunbathing

[abbamuk]

Back from a week in croatia and wife was topless every day

[Pacom]

Originally Posted by EriiErii

Yes I agree. It is a sad state of affairs. The biggest thing I'm sad about is that it would have been very common to have seen the boobs of a few female friends if holidaying with them: it just would have happened round the pool and at the beach. And as I posted up a few posts that exact thing was the case with my wife in the very early 2000s with a few of the lads having that fantastic memory of her and freinds' tits. My mother in law too I know thought nothing of whipping them out in front of their friends on hols, as did her female friends. These days that casual toplessness, almost expected toplessness, would not happen. And sadly I was too late to go on a holiday like that with female friends to experience such a wonderful thing.

However I think now I've found where toplessness is still rife. Spanish nude beaches in Catalonia typically have one half nude, one half not. From my experience and a few conversations with others on the matter, on the nude beach section pretty much all women are topless at very least. But even on the none nude section about half the women go topless. So I just make sure we book our beach holidays accordingly now so at least I can enjoy the sight of my wife's tits, and the breasts of the majority of the other women there, even if I know I'll never get to see female friends' casually exposing theirs.

So it's sad what you say about the Barcelona beaches you were on having pretty few topless women. However if you sought out the nude beaches, even if yilou stuck to the non nude section, I suspect it would be a lot lot more women with their breasts out. I was literally talking to someone last week who'd just come back from Barcelona and said it was rife on the right beach.

Even at the height of the topless era in the late 90s and early 2000s, it was a stroke of luck to go to the beach with female friends and have them go topless. It could happen, but it wasn't the norm. The usual thing was that if you went with female friends, they kept their tops on. The real opportunity was bumping into them by chance when they were already topless, though they would usually cover up. I only had a couple of times where they didn't cover up, and back then I basically spent the whole summer at the beach.
What did happen more often was running into an acquaintance who was topless. You know, the kind of person you just say hi to when passing on the street. It was especially awesome when the chick was hot. Seeing her all covered up in winter, totally out of reach, and then suddenly bumping into her topless! And, of course, back in those days you'd see a lot of random women topless.

All of that is gone now. And it's a shame. But it is what it is. I've always been left wanting to go to the beach with my wife and other married couples and have the wives go topless. In the early 2000s, the girlfriends I had didn't go topless.

As for nude beaches, it's true: you see tits. That's why they're nude beaches. Everyone is naked, or at least they should be. The ones you mentioned being half nude, half not, usually aren't traditionally nude beaches. They tend to be beaches where nudism started gaining ground in the mid-90s until it reached a 50-50 split, or 30-70, 40-60... depending on the specific case and the layout of the beach. For example, if we look at a 50-50 beach, back then it was 50% nude, 50% topless. Today it's 50% nude, 50% bikini and swimsuits. People who go to the textile section of a mixed beach don't go there to be topless; they just go for the beach itself. Because of that, the percentage of girls you'll see topless there is pretty much the same as on any regular beach (except for heavily family-oriented ones, where it's even rarer). What is true is that you'll see a lot of boobs, simply because the nude section is right there. But, honestly, it's just not the same. It doesn't have the same thrill. And, either way, what's incredibly difficult now is going to a nude beach with a female friend. Unless she's an actual naturist. But that whole scenario of going to the beach and getting the surprise of her taking off her bra... that's increasingly a thing of the past.

It's a real pity. So many years of progress in liberation, and it's all been lost in such a short time... I read a comment saying this already happened in France in the early 2000s, and between 2010 and now it’s happened in Spain. I also read someone saying that you don't see topless in Greece anymore either (I was in the Greek islands in the late 2000s and topless was the absolute norm). Anyway, a wave of puritanism is sweeping across Europe.

All of this is just my experience and my perception. Obviously, it's not the absolute truth, and I don't mean to say that other points of view aren't just as valid as mine.

[veryaware2003]

I may have posted this before, my memory isn't what it once was. My wife has always been an exhibitionist, and one of her earliest experiences was going to a nude beach when she was 18. She had heard about the beach and was curious. Her senior of High School, after turning 18, she decided to visit the nude beach during the week, when there were less people and less of a chance someone she knew would be there. She also knew the school would not report her truancy since she was now, legally, an adult.

When she arrived at the beach, the parking lot only had about ten cars in it. She took a bag with a blanket, a hat, and a water bottle and walked down the beach. As she walked she noticed she only saw older men. She decided to walk far enough from the parking lot so nobody could see her naked. When she got far enough away, she laid out her blanket and took off her clothes. She told me she felt excited and warm with the sun hitting her body. She laid down on the blanket, put the hat on her head to cover her face. Within a few minutes she saw a man walking towards her, along the water. She kept her hat low on her head, nearly covering her eyes, so she could watch the man as he walked closer to her. As he walked by her, he turned and stared at her body. She could feel is eyes on her pussy and her pussy responded by getting wetter than it was before he walked by.

A few minutes later, two men walked up to her blanket and said hello. She raised her hat and said hello to them. She was nervous and asked them what they wanted. They said they've never seen her before and asked her if this was her first time at the nude beach. She smiled and said it was. She asked them if it was always this quiet with so few people. They laughed and said during the week it was, but it was always full on the weekends. She told me they talked for a bit before the first man who walked by earlier returned and stopped to say hello and joined the conversation. She could see the men staring at her breasts and occasionally looked down at her pussy. She enjoyed them looking. She had her legs closed when the men walked up but decided to open them up and see their reactions. She pulled her legs up, bringing her heels towards her, then opened her knees wide, stretching them. She noticed all three were staring at her pussy. She felt her pussy twitch a bit and get wetter.

She doesn't remember the rest of her conversation with the three men, but remembered them staring at her pussy and enjoying it. She packed her things, but didn't put any clothes on, and walked back to her car. She said she started going to the nude beach a few times a month. She usually saw the same men and had conversations she doesn't remember. She would go home and masturbate in the shower, thinking about the looks on the men's faces as they stared at her body.

She told me about her going to the nude beach when she was 18 on our third or fourth date. I already knew I wanted to marry this woman, but this story convinced me of what I already knew to be true.

We've been to dozens of nude beaches over the years and it always turns me on to see my wife spread her legs and smile at the men she has conversations with.

[Lucianado]

While thongs have replaced topless in a sense, there is that fundamental difference that wearing a thong takes premeditation, whereas going topless can be an unexpected, spur of the moment decision, which makes it that much more interesting in ENF terms.

[sebsationally]

Originally Posted by Lucianado

While thongs have replaced topless in a sense, there is that fundamental difference that wearing a thong takes premeditation, whereas going topless can be an unexpected, spur of the moment decision, which makes it that much more interesting in ENF terms.

That's true. Also the fact that topless is by definition nudity, whereas many younger women just consider a thong normal beach wear. It's always more exciting when it means something to the girl doing it, rather than just being considered normal

[EriiErii]

I kind of fenwe need to organise ait so that everyone on this thread books a holiday at the same place at the sane time next summer 😂. Out of curiosity what age is everyone's wife here. Il start, 48, but she looks after herself with loads of yoga!

[rudolfm]

Originally Posted by veryaware2003

... She would go home and masturbate in the shower, thinking about the looks on the men's faces as they stared at her body. ...

I don't think any of those men would have minded if she had masturbated while they talked to her. Why wait till she's home 😀

[EriiErii]

Originally Posted by rudolfm

I don't think any of those men would have minded if she had masturbated while they talked to her. Why wait till she's home 😀

Tbh when wife and I have been to the nude beach we both need at least a wank before and after. But we help each other out. The walk back always seems to take forever.
I think most nude beaches the etiquette would not permit her just rubbing one out there and then, but there are some beaches that would permit this I think (although I've not managed to visit one, yet. If anyone has any suggestions let me know)

[EriiErii]

Originally Posted by Pacom

Even at the height of the topless era in the late 90s and early 2000s, it was a stroke of luck to go to the beach with female friends and have them go topless. It could happen, but it wasn't the norm. The usual thing was that if you went with female friends, they kept their tops on. The real opportunity was bumping into them by chance when they were already topless, though they would usually cover up.

I know you said it was just your perception, but not sure quite how accurate this is. The video in the first post of this thread shows a scene from maybe late 90s, early 00s and there are a few women with bikini tops on, but the vast majority are topless. And there a lots of couples there with the girl with her norks out, but also lots of mixed friend groups where the women seem pretty happy to have their baps out in front of clearly their male friends. When I went to Greece early 00s I was there just with my missus (who spent the entire two weeks with her boobs proudly out for all to see) but I saw lots and lots of groups of friends where all the women in the group were topless and it just seemed normal.
When on Santorini we met two Danish couples who were backpacking the islands like we were and both the women were completely at easy having their tits seen by their mates boyfriend. We also met a group of British med students, two women and a chap, and both of the girls sunbathed topless in front of him. And that was all just at our hotel pool!
When we travelled to Ios it was crazier... Pretty much no woman had her top on at the beach and if you know that island it was a big party island back then so lots of mixed groups of brit, Germans etc, and all the girls had their tits out in front of their platonic males friends it seems (in fact I know of mates who travelled there a couple of years before and the girls got them out in front of the boys)
Then about the same time (a couple of years before) before me and wife were together my wife went with a mixed group (she was with another chap at that point), two couples including her, one single woman and two single men, and my wife and the other woman in a couple both spent the two weeks with their tits out in front of the lads that they are both still mates with now (the single woman didn't tbf as there was some history I think with one if the single chaps whereby he was a bit sexually weird with her and she didn't want to let him see her tits, but she did spend the girls holiday a couple of years later with my missus with no top on by all accounts)
Then there's my father in law who has spent countless hols through the 90s with my mother in law topless as per every other woman in their friend group when they go away on group holidays.
So I think it was much more prevalent than you suggest and I know women, my wife being one of them, who were okay to get them out in front of make friends in an effort to not get tanlines (and I am told wet bikini tops are not nice to wear)
So it's such a shame if the happy position for women is to be topless, that modern society seems to have quashed that inhibition... It's not like all the men I described in the above scenarios did not enjoy seeing their femak freinds tits... It's just that it seems it is no longer a thing that just happens

[Pearoak]

Originally Posted by sebsationally

That's true. Also the fact that topless is by definition nudity, whereas many younger women just consider a thong normal beach wear. It's always more exciting when it means something to the girl doing it, rather than just being considered normal

I don't know, I still think the thong thing is really exciting and comparable to topless.
It pretty much is nudity, in that it leaves little to the imagination.
And the first time a woman wears a thong bikini must be a nerve-racking experience for her.
And, talking about people keeping their tops on back in the day if with friends and family, this happens to some extent with thongs too. My wife generally won't (initially) wear the same thong if she's with people she knows.