Mixed nude European sauna experiences

[ChristerChrister]

Originally Posted by 321atilol

Is V in Dusseldorf or Hamburg as good as in B? Similar age and crowd?

Düsseldorf is about the same as Berlin. I prefer the Düsseldorf one actually, more places with good views.

[diacylglycerol]

Originally Posted by londondude_01

I think this is so true. At a WNBR, the girls know they will be photographed, so only a select personality participates. But in the sauna, that isn't the case.

Maybe back in the day, eg take the famous and gorgeous floppy hat girl of 2009 whilst she got naked early on, nothing about her personality screamed attention seeker, exhibisionist or adult industry or disordered and chaotic life, she was the prototypical girl next door, i dont recall her having any protest slogans at all, so I am curious what inspired someone like that to the wnbr, perhaps pre social media it was easier to be naive about the reality of the ride hence why now if there are any nude women at all they are almost excusively exhibistionist, adult industry or sex indsutry adjacent.

Whilst the saunas of germany netherlands arent marketed as nudist or naturist or nude at all, it is just seen as natural to do wellness naked, and i think that plausible deniability of not making it seem like some weird subculture makes it much more popular with women, in fact if you discount the many men who seem dragged along as part of a couple i would say it is majority women which for an activity involving mixed gender nudity is unheard of, i can only think of life drawing art models as an activity that has more nude women than nude men participating.

[diacylglycerol]

Originally Posted by Pearoak

My favourite is sauna at a ski resort.

Firstly, the quality of the bodies is very good, as skiers tend to be fit.

Secondly, most of the people you see through the day are fully covered due to the cold, so seeing skin is even more exciting.

But mostly, as you say, you are seeing 'girls next door' that are mainly on a skiing holiday but have decided to visit the sauna whilst there. Some don't even know it's textile free until they get there.

I'm always surprised at the high % shaved for these reasons, unlike say a nude beach where I think many would see it as an expectation to prepare by shaving.

I think in general many euopean countries have high percentage of shaved women as part of culture, i think i read somewheer netherlands has highest percnet in europe possibly highest in the world. And for "normal" women it will be part of standard grooming and aesthetics for them, part of general fitness wellness culture,

For nude beaches they tend to attract to be blunt here less attractive women on average, when we see iltb or bsome videos i would imagine we are getting tail end of the distribution and that is far from what you would you see on average day. Eg for spain most of the women going to the nude beaches are countercultural and alterantive and so shaving would be seen as submitting to capitalist expectaions or gender norms and so to them not shaving is an act of rebellion and plain laziness. With the wnbr for spain one positive was the far higher ratio of women and almost all nude but almost all genuine protestors almost no typical spanish girls let alone all the cute latin america and eatsern euopean immigrants who populate barcelona and madrid.

whilst for skiing you are going to get much higher income women on average who care very much about their apperance and presnetation, hence shaved. the only thing with skiing is it may devlove into very male heavy enviornment esp if only sauna and not attached wellness

[rudolfm]

For US folks, and (other countries), nudity is something out of order that must have a reason. You're skinny dipping, flashing, showing off, painting bodies, protestting, wanting sex, or whatever.

Simply being nude is not in your scope. Just being nude without implications, like you might be at home doesn't figure. Being in a park, spa, or whatever and not being forced to wear clothes is something done in Europe which doesn't compute in the US. The US hippes got it, but that has gone lost. Them being nude has nothing to do with you or anybody else, they simply don't want clothes. Personal freedom.

So any speculations about nude women being shaved or not, being hot or not, or whatever doesn't figure. You're not meant, you don't matter. I hope some will understand.

[lilslip33]

Originally Posted by diacylglycerol

The sauna environment seems to be both the only one which is significantly above average attractiveness

How are German lakes & beaches in terms of attractive, girl next door, crush at college type when compared to saunas?

[Grec]

Hello,
I was recently able to spend two consecutive week days in v in b. As usual, this place as no rival especially during a hot summer day. In my experience most other places are pretty much a lottery, you may get lucky with some good views, but getting disappointed for uneventful visits. The factor that makes the difference is the age of the guests and the female/male ratio. V attracts a young crowd and groups of girls, so you may find 40-50 girls in their 20s therefore you're guaranteed to see attractive girls. As a longstanding sauna goer, unfortunately the reward I get for seeing naked bodies is not as good as the first times, where it looked like paradise on earth. I guess it's a dopamine effect. Nevertheless, when I see a firm- model type butt and a pretty face, that still makes my day. It is difficult to provide a descriptive account of my two days, so I will just describe the things that caught my eye or that I found amusing. First of all, in the mornings even in V senior people are present, then by 2 PM 90% of the crowd is between 20 and 40. On a hot day, guests still will do aufguss cermonies, but the best part is the garden. Lots of reports point that in V you must keep a towel on between saunas, but that definetely is not what I've experienced this time, where in the large garden most people where naked on their armchair and wondering around nude like if it was an upscale hipster nudist camp. I was also able to note the different approaches to nudity by different nationalities or sexual orientation. The funnier are the americans, for them is such a new experience that they mostly overdo it. There were several american hipster type that could not stop commenting on how liberating being nude is. A 30 yo fit american blonde would stroll around compeltely naked, not even wearing slippers, with her shoulders sticking backwards are her nice fit ass moving a bit too much, a bit of a show-off. The queer, trans, type instead were generally a bit shy, covering their multigender body parts. Then there were two russian hotties in their early 20s with the hottest bodies ever, that would put sun cream on standing up even putting sun cream on each other, putting up a deliberate show for everyone. This lasted about literally almost ten minutes. They were so exhibitionist it was almost too much. I'm not being judgemental in the slightest but I can imagine what their source of income in Berlin was. In general there were a few clearly exhibitionist girls,all not from germany. German girls whetehr hot or average seem to live their nudity in such a nonchalant way, no shame, embarassment or exhibitionism. One highlight for me were also the sauna meisters, which once they finished cleaning after the aufguss take a shower, so seeing this early 20 very cute girl cleaning up and then after 10 minutes coming out from the staff room with a towel and taking a shower was a great view. She had the most beatiful buttocks. If you can take advantage of the hot days and go to V. during week days you dont need to reserve, but the place is still quite full.

[etefivos1]

I had that kind of experience some days ago at V on a weekday, really hot weather and the garden was full.
I was there since the opening, booked very early just to be sure. Early afternoon 4 girls and a boy joined my sunbed row just next to me. All girls less than or max 20y.o. and the boyfriend of one of them around 25. They had amazing bodies, all shaved, didn’t know which one to choose if you ever had the chance. They didn’t put a piece of textile on them for the whole time they were laying next to me on the sunbeds. They were German, unfortunately couldn’t understand what they were talking about, but the funny thing is (and it will always feel awkward to me) that the boy was standing in front of them without any piece of cloth and telling them something like a funny story, they were laying on the sunbeds with open legs or knees bent, looking at him and nobody between them feeling weird.
After 3 unsuccessful visits at K I think I will not visit anytime soon, V is far away from where I live but it is really worth it.

[sebsationally]

Originally Posted by Grec

Hello,
I was recently able to spend two consecutive week days in v in b. As usual, this place as no rival especially during a hot summer day. In my experience most other places are pretty much a lottery, you may get lucky with some good views, but getting disappointed for uneventful visits. The factor that makes the difference is the age of the guests and the female/male ratio. V attracts a young crowd and groups of girls, so you may find 40-50 girls in their 20s therefore you're guaranteed to see attractive girls. As a longstanding sauna goer, unfortunately the reward I get for seeing naked bodies is not as good as the first times, where it looked like paradise on earth. I guess it's a dopamine effect. Nevertheless, when I see a firm- model type butt and a pretty face, that still makes my day. It is difficult to provide a descriptive account of my two days, so I will just describe the things that caught my eye or that I found amusing. First of all, in the mornings even in V senior people are present, then by 2 PM 90% of the crowd is between 20 and 40. On a hot day, guests still will do aufguss cermonies, but the best part is the garden. Lots of reports point that in V you must keep a towel on between saunas, but that definetely is not what I've experienced this time, where in the large garden most people where naked on their armchair and wondering around nude like if it was an upscale hipster nudist camp. I was also able to note the different approaches to nudity by different nationalities or sexual orientation. The funnier are the americans, for them is such a new experience that they mostly overdo it. There were several american hipster type that could not stop commenting on how liberating being nude is. A 30 yo fit american blonde would stroll around compeltely naked, not even wearing slippers, with her shoulders sticking backwards are her nice fit ass moving a bit too much, a bit of a show-off. The queer, trans, type instead were generally a bit shy, covering their multigender body parts. Then there were two russian hotties in their early 20s with the hottest bodies ever, that would put sun cream on standing up even putting sun cream on each other, putting up a deliberate show for everyone. This lasted about literally almost ten minutes. They were so exhibitionist it was almost too much. I'm not being judgemental in the slightest but I can imagine what their source of income in Berlin was. In general there were a few clearly exhibitionist girls,all not from germany. German girls whetehr hot or average seem to live their nudity in such a nonchalant way, no shame, embarassment or exhibitionism. One highlight for me were also the sauna meisters, which once they finished cleaning after the aufguss take a shower, so seeing this early 20 very cute girl cleaning up and then after 10 minutes coming out from the staff room with a towel and taking a shower was a great view. She had the most beatiful buttocks. If you can take advantage of the hot days and go to V. during week days you dont need to reserve, but the place is still quite full.

How many Asian girls are you likely to see on any given day weekday or weekend day at V? How about other ethnicities?

[yewike8919]

I have a lot of experience with TE. I visit it at least 30 times a year. Best time is winter on saturdays. All saunas are completely crowded and there is a lot to see ;-). You should also check cabin area. A lot of couples are fuc.. there. Questions to the experts. How do you manage smaller saunas e.g. gym ? There is a girl who always sits so that if you are in the right position you can see her pus.. I think I have overdone it lately. I have the impression that some girls I see regulary react weird if they see me... What do you think how often is it OK to check them within 15 minutes sauna. Another question. This forum has a thread with sauna pictures. Is there a reason why no sauna videos eg. from knuthing are not shared here ?

[tylenol]

Originally Posted by Grec

Hello,
I was recently able to spend two consecutive week days in v in b. As usual, this place as no rival especially during a hot summer day. In my experience most other places are pretty much a lottery, you may get lucky with some good views, but getting disappointed for uneventful visits. The factor that makes the difference is the age of the guests and the female/male ratio. V attracts a young crowd and groups of girls, so you may find 40-50 girls in their 20s therefore you're guaranteed to see attractive girls. As a longstanding sauna goer, unfortunately the reward I get for seeing naked bodies is not as good as the first times, where it looked like paradise on earth. I guess it's a dopamine effect. Nevertheless, when I see a firm- model type butt and a pretty face, that still makes my day. It is difficult to provide a descriptive account of my two days, so I will just describe the things that caught my eye or that I found amusing. First of all, in the mornings even in V senior people are present, then by 2 PM 90% of the crowd is between 20 and 40. On a hot day, guests still will do aufguss cermonies, but the best part is the garden. Lots of reports point that in V you must keep a towel on between saunas, but that definetely is not what I've experienced this time, where in the large garden most people where naked on their armchair and wondering around nude like if it was an upscale hipster nudist camp. I was also able to note the different approaches to nudity by different nationalities or sexual orientation. The funnier are the americans, for them is such a new experience that they mostly overdo it. There were several american hipster type that could not stop commenting on how liberating being nude is. A 30 yo fit american blonde would stroll around compeltely naked, not even wearing slippers, with her shoulders sticking backwards are her nice fit ass moving a bit too much, a bit of a show-off. The queer, trans, type instead were generally a bit shy, covering their multigender body parts. Then there were two russian hotties in their early 20s with the hottest bodies ever, that would put sun cream on standing up even putting sun cream on each other, putting up a deliberate show for everyone. This lasted about literally almost ten minutes. They were so exhibitionist it was almost too much. I'm not being judgemental in the slightest but I can imagine what their source of income in Berlin was. In general there were a few clearly exhibitionist girls,all not from germany. German girls whetehr hot or average seem to live their nudity in such a nonchalant way, no shame, embarassment or exhibitionism. One highlight for me were also the sauna meisters, which once they finished cleaning after the aufguss take a shower, so seeing this early 20 very cute girl cleaning up and then after 10 minutes coming out from the staff room with a towel and taking a shower was a great view. She had the most beatiful buttocks. If you can take advantage of the hot days and go to V. during week days you dont need to reserve, but the place is still quite full.

have you been in the fall/winter? if so, how would you compare that to your time in summer? are the saunas less full in summer?