Dressed Undressed - WNBR edition

[nosprap]

Originally Posted by maxdelmax

Since you're asking.... I appreciate all of the recent comments and I believe that @Laylak, @anonjohn and @sillywong all make valid points. I do know that the thread was originally started with the idea of showing women dressed and undressed on the day of the event. Then, even before Pimeyes came along, some members started including social media and other pictures of the women. There was a spirited debate - lead at first by the esteemed @Fango in favor of not over-sharing - that was never really resolved. Now, here we are.

I have Pimeyes and I'm really good at using it. At first I shared many of my finds with the forum and in general it was positively received. But after awhile it just didn't feel right. I believe most of these women, if we could ask them, would prefer to stay anonymous and just enjoy the experience. Of course there are exceptions and of course they have no real expectation of privacy given the nature of the activity. But I personally didn't enjoy my part in outing them any longer.

So @nosprap - you should do what you feel is right as I'm not sure there is a way to really determine a group consensus. Though if I were to guess, I'd say that while many of us enjoy this guilty pleasure - we also don't want to promote it.

Either way - I appreciate, as I'm sure others do, your sincere question to the group. We could use more of that here at OCC. Thanks!

Some points well made, and well taken!

I will say that the previous commenter who called this thread "creepy" does need to take a good hard look at the rest of this forum. We are talking about a forum that openly hosts leaked nude photos of college co-eds, alongside dressed photos of them with their families, and while wearing clearly marked college apparel. 99% of the content on this forum has been taken and/or posted without the consent of the subject.

At the very least, the participants of the WNBR (and other public events) are willing participants, who know full well that their photos will be taken, and most likely shared online. This is a far cry from most of the threads on this website, which depict subjects in private settings, where it is reasonable for them to expect their privacy to be kept.

In saying that, I do agree that posting clothed photos of WNBR subjects and "outing" them as participants could effect the number of willing participants in future years, just as the presence of photographers in the first place would no doubt limit the number of people willing to take part.

In acknowledging the above point, I will think again about posting my collection on here and perhaps keep them private, in the hope that this forum does not contribute to the dwindling numbers of female participants in future WNBR events.

However, with the facial recognition technology becoming more widely accesible, this kind of thread is inevitable!! I suspect that with the vast quantity of WNBR content already online, there are countless people already running facial searches, and identifying as many past participants as they can. We would be naive to think that this material is not going to make its way to the internet, whether its posted to OCC, or any number of other online platforms.

The stark reality is, modern technology will leave future participants with nowhere to hide, and the inevitable result will be the death of these events due to loss of female interest, or a greater need for participants to wear face coverings, which really takes a lot of the fun out of things.

Imagine a world where there were no cameras and no internet, the WNBR would likely attract tens of thousands of participants, living freely without the fear of publication. It would be a fabulous event to be a part of, but the catch-22 is that we would never get to see evidence of it!

[Highway X]

Originally Posted by nosprap

Gina

Does anyone know what year this is from?

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before and after

[sillywong]

Originally Posted by nosprap

Some points well made, and well taken!

This is a reasonable take. I think you should keep any posts you have made up, it would be a shame to lose them. Like you say, this event and this thread are about appreciating naked beauty, I don’t believe we are anything more than a very small corner of the internet trying to do just that.

Regarding the future, I honestly don’t know why people keep going on about ‘dwindling female participation’. It’s struck me as a given that less women take part in these things because women take less risks, are more sensible, and less likely to do things like this as a bit of fun, unlike lads.

I’m sure back in 2005 when flip phones and Nikon cameras were the mainstay there were more women taking part, but at London alone this year we must have seen 100 attractive young ladies from ages 18-35 totally nude, with probably 150-200 more in their underwear. Let’s not forget that this is completely unheard of! In the 1950s this would have brought the sky down!

The way I see it, society is going to go one of two ways: either we end up in some kind of prudish puritan religious state or we end up with total societal freedom. Exhibitionist girls and women are more empowered than ever before in our society with things like o***fans and Instagram. They know that firing someone for getting naked in public in a non-sexual event is not s good look these days.

I myself know of at least one girl from my sixth form (only 40 students in the year) who used to be very prudish but went to Australia and now posts pictures of her nearly naked bum in tiny thong swimsuits. Do the math - that’s a lot of exhibitionist females who want to show off! In conclusion, if these events start dwindling it will be because of rules and legislation, not a lack of motivation or a fear of being found out.

[maxdelmax]

Originally Posted by sillywong

if these events start dwindling it will be because of rules and legislation, not a lack of motivation or a fear of being found out.

I doubt that our little corner of the internet will make much of an impact on overall attendance either - but we can still enjoy viewing these women without linking their public images to their private lives.

[anonjohn]

Originally Posted by sillywong

I honestly don’t know why people keep going on about ‘dwindling female participation’. ...

- Various eye witnesses here speak of fewer fully naked women.
- Yes, women are more "sensible" perhaps because they have more to lose and are more vulnerable both physically and socially eg to hypocritical social oppobrium.

Originally Posted by sillywong

They know that firing someone for getting naked in public in a non-sexual event is not s good look these days.

- eg teachers? at a religious school? that's before the kids tease the teacher. A tabloid rag ripping into someoone they call "woke" for some other reason that outrages the Daily Mail or Sun?
- Sadly not enough of society is as enlightened as you are.

Originally Posted by sillywong

if these events start dwindling it will be because of rules and legislation, not a lack of motivation or a fear of being found out.

- I would like to believe you are correct, but sadly I believe this is wishful thinking.
- I've seen queries like why has such and such a beautiful woman (eg Barclays librarian, eg flower girls) stopped doing WNBR?
- I've heard of some (perhaps naieve) women complaining about being objectified by their cropped pictures at WNBR and also of intrusive photographers.
As to "rules and legislation" - I don't which ones you mean, WNBR is lawful in eg UK. The Conservative government plans to limit all protest - not specifically nude ones.

[sillywong]

Originally Posted by maxdelmax

I doubt that our little corner of the internet will make much of an impact on overall attendance either - but we can still enjoy viewing these women without linking their public images to their private lives.

For many people, myself included, knowing these women are just normal people is why I love events like the WNBR so much. You get the odd pornstar sure, but mostly it’s just girls who feel like taking a chance on a nude thrill for a day.

However, as a compromise I would suggest at least leaving a gap of at least a year before doing a dressed/undressed comparison using social media.

[sillywong]

Originally Posted by anonjohn

- Various eye witnesses here speak of fewer fully naked women.
- Yes, women are more "sensible" perhaps because they have more to lose and are more vulnerable both physically and socially eg to hypocritical social oppobrium.


- eg teachers? at a religious school? that's before the kids tease the teacher. A tabloid rag ripping into someoone they call "woke" for some other reason that outrages the Daily Mail or Sun?
- Sadly not enough of society is as enlightened as you are.


- I would like to believe you are correct, but sadly I believe this is wishful thinking.
- I've seen queries like why has such and such a beautiful woman (eg Barclays librarian, eg flower girls) stopped doing WNBR?
- I've heard of some (perhaps naieve) women complaining about being objectified by their cropped pictures at WNBR and also of intrusive photographers.
As to "rules and legislation" - I don't which ones you mean, WNBR is lawful in eg UK. The Conservative government plans to limit all protest - not specifically nude ones.

Fewer middle aged women perhaps - fewer women with families and responsibilities and obligations. I saw a lot of young, carefree ones. Regardless, it takes serious bravery to do something like this. I’ve considered it myself but I do find it terrifying, even if it looks fun at the same time. And so you’re never going to get masses of ladies lining up for it.

Yes I saw that article from a while back with a woman complaining about the photographers. I think that there isn’t much wrong with the sorts of stuff being posted on Flickr (either photographers fully taking part in the event themselves or doing non-intrusive shots from the far to side of the road).

Ultimately in a society where we have to legally wear clothes, someone being granted permission by the authorities to get naked and (presumably) enjoy all the various enjoyable ‘states of mind’ that one might experience while should not be able to demand freedom from the consequences of their exhibitionism. I also have to say that she is very much in the minority, with most people giving the photographers a friendly wave or perhaps a shy smile.

About protests being banned, I very much doubt something that fully complies with the current government agenda of both the Conservatives (net zero) and the London Labour Party (Mayor Sadiq Khan’s ultra low emission zone) is going to be first on the chopping block.

[Fox Mulder]

You all make great points, with well thought out insights and opinions. I like the pictures better.

[FEVEHN]

Dressed undressed at WNBR with friends and boyfriend