Dressed Undressed - WNBR edition

[jc666]

An all time favourite girl from Cardiff 2012.

[JammyS]

Originally Posted by Fango

I'm just going to say it: this thread creeps me out. The before-and-after pics that were taken at the WNBR events themselves are perfectly fine, but the pictures that are paired with clothed shots that are clearly from these girls' social media accounts are very stalkery and give me an icky feeling.

Fango

I agree entirely- the WNBR threads are by far my main liking here on OCC, as they undoubtedly portray only consenting adults enjoying themselves in a very public context. Many other threads are far more privately intrusive, often with little or no consent, which is exactly why the WNBR threads feel to me so free, uninhibited and fully consensual.

For what it's worth!!

[retrac55]

Originally Posted by Fango

I'm just going to say it: this thread creeps me out. The before-and-after pics that were taken at the WNBR events themselves are perfectly fine, but the pictures that are paired with clothed shots that are clearly from these girls' social media accounts are very stalkery and give me an icky feeling.

Fango

Everyone draws their personal 'icky' line in the sand. No rules broken though...

[tuscandriver]

Half the threads in this forum offend at least one member, it's likely all of them would offend a lot of non-members. Indeed an awful lot of them might offend the person whose picture is being posted. So where does the line get drawn?

For instance let's say the normal WNBR thread is fine by most, I hardly think those people who took part would like the fact that their pictures are being reposted in the context of a forum aimed fairly and squarely at men who enjoy pictures of semi-dressed and naked women. The argument "they appeared in public so they lose the right to object" falls apart when you consider the sheer number of sites devoted to such pictures. The men at such events rarely if ever get subjected to that level of scrutiny. These women are making a point about the naked female form being natural and NOT simply sexual. This forum completely upends that and goes on to make them sexual again. The whole purpose of the event is defeated if they want to shout "This is natural not sexual" and we hear only "Let's post them on a thread devoted to men who want pictures of naked women". We are, in fact, breaking the very tenet of their argument and proving them wrong - that men will always treat the female body as an object of lustful desire.

My view? Never think too much about the morals which separate you personally from other members of this site. Unless something illegal or clearly idenitficable who are we to judge what others enjoy? As the saying goes "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". I don't think many of us should be casting stones at other members - not while we stand in rocky ground and might easily be hit by a retaliatory blow. Live be let live. If we can't agree that as fellow members of this site, we are truly lost.

[newbie66]

Originally Posted by tuscandriver

Half the threads in this forum offend at least one member, it's likely all of them would offend a lot of non-members. Indeed an awful lot of them might offend the person whose picture is being posted. So where does the line get drawn?

For instance let's say the normal WNBR thread is fine by most, I hardly think those people who took part would like the fact that their pictures are being reposted in the context of a forum aimed fairly and squarely at men who enjoy pictures of semi-dressed and naked women. The argument "they appeared in public so they lose the right to object" falls apart when you consider the sheer number of sites devoted to such pictures. The men at such events rarely if ever get subjected to that level of scrutiny. These women are making a point about the naked female form being natural and NOT simply sexual. This forum completely upends that and goes on to make them sexual again. The whole purpose of the event is defeated if they want to shout "This is natural not sexual" and we hear only "Let's post them on a thread devoted to men who want pictures of naked women". We are, in fact, breaking the very tenet of their argument and proving them wrong - that men will always treat the female body as an object of lustful desire.

My view? Never think too much about the morals which separate you personally from other members of this site. Unless something illegal or clearly idenitficable who are we to judge what others enjoy? As the saying goes "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". I don't think many of us should be casting stones at other members - not while we stand in rocky ground and might easily be hit by a retaliatory blow. Live be let live. If we can't agree that as fellow members of this site, we are truly lost.

EXACTLY!!

[HCharles.Crank]

Frankly, I think it's a good sign that this conversation is happening at all. I basically agree with fango and everybody else. The important part is that it's actually getting hashed out and we're not being total asses. So far so good.
I have some Fremont pics...have to figure out where I stand myself but when I look at all the other clothed/unclothed seems they're made from social sites or the ex-boyfriends themselves so.....?

[fred the red]

couple I found

[jc666]

Originally Posted by fred the red

couple I found

She looks cuter and sexier covered up rather than nude. Thanks for sharing.

[torretxt]

Originally Posted by retrac55

Everyone draws their personal 'icky' line in the sand. No rules broken though...

Originally Posted by Fango

I'm just going to say it: this thread creeps me out. The before-and-after pics that were taken at the WNBR events themselves are perfectly fine, but the pictures that are paired with clothed shots that are clearly from these girls' social media accounts are very stalkery and give me an icky feeling.

Fango

Fango, I can understand your concerns but, speaking as a woman, I don't have a problem with it and here's why. It's a generational thing. The ages of most women in these photos are such that they grew up with social media and are totally accustomed to sharing even the most minute aspects of their lives with total strangers. Nudity and the classic ENF ideal that I, and many of the let's say more mature members at OCC grew up with, is no longer the norm for social media addicts. The concept of the younger generation's approach towards nudity and personal privacy is so radically different today than even 10 years ago. I suspect "sexting" would be seen as rare and so "out there" by many mature OCC members that they might think only a few "loose women" engage in such behavior or do so only with their private partners.

HA!! People I know do so at the drop of a hat with people they really have no idea who they really are.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if those women who rode in the WNBR bragged about it in great detail or posted intimate accounts and pictures at their social accounts. I'd be totally surprised that they would object in the least at the attention they are getting - even here. Does that make it right or negate your gallant respect for their privacy? No, in fact I find it quite refreshing. but truth be told many today would find that attitude "quaint."

Yes, I participated years ago in the Fremont Parade and was scared to death and went all out (overboard actually) to hide my identity or keep from anyone here linking my nude photos with my actual name. (Yes, naked photos of me are really on this site from years back but so far no one has linked me with any of them - at least not that I know of thank goodness. But I believe people like me are rare - the exception not the rule anymore. From the many, many women I know that are millennial's they would think nothing of it. Their attitude is more like "yeah that rocks, so what's the big deal?"

Just another point of view, really.

Torre

[lonemeat]

Originally Posted by torretxt

It's a generational thing. The ages of most women in these photos are such that they grew up with social media and are totally accustomed to sharing even the most minute aspects of their lives with total strangers.

This is only part of the story. Companies like Facebook deliberately obscure their privacy policies and also regularly change them because it's in their interest to encourage sharing of content. I work in this area and believe it, deceiving users about how much they're sharing is often part of the business plan. Yes, social media posts are often in the public domain but I still think there's a difference between those photos and ones of riders in the WNBR or Fremont Solstice Parade.