Mixed nude European sauna experiences

[ChristerChrister]

Originally Posted by 321atilol

Is V in Dusseldorf or Hamburg as good as in B? Similar age and crowd?

Düsseldorf is about the same as Berlin. I prefer the Düsseldorf one actually, more places with good views.

[diacylglycerol]

Originally Posted by londondude_01

I think this is so true. At a WNBR, the girls know they will be photographed, so only a select personality participates. But in the sauna, that isn't the case.

Maybe back in the day, eg take the famous and gorgeous floppy hat girl of 2009 whilst she got naked early on, nothing about her personality screamed attention seeker, exhibisionist or adult industry or disordered and chaotic life, she was the prototypical girl next door, i dont recall her having any protest slogans at all, so I am curious what inspired someone like that to the wnbr, perhaps pre social media it was easier to be naive about the reality of the ride hence why now if there are any nude women at all they are almost excusively exhibistionist, adult industry or sex indsutry adjacent.

Whilst the saunas of germany netherlands arent marketed as nudist or naturist or nude at all, it is just seen as natural to do wellness naked, and i think that plausible deniability of not making it seem like some weird subculture makes it much more popular with women, in fact if you discount the many men who seem dragged along as part of a couple i would say it is majority women which for an activity involving mixed gender nudity is unheard of, i can only think of life drawing art models as an activity that has more nude women than nude men participating.

[diacylglycerol]

Originally Posted by Pearoak

My favourite is sauna at a ski resort.

Firstly, the quality of the bodies is very good, as skiers tend to be fit.

Secondly, most of the people you see through the day are fully covered due to the cold, so seeing skin is even more exciting.

But mostly, as you say, you are seeing 'girls next door' that are mainly on a skiing holiday but have decided to visit the sauna whilst there. Some don't even know it's textile free until they get there.

I'm always surprised at the high % shaved for these reasons, unlike say a nude beach where I think many would see it as an expectation to prepare by shaving.

I think in general many euopean countries have high percentage of shaved women as part of culture, i think i read somewheer netherlands has highest percnet in europe possibly highest in the world. And for "normal" women it will be part of standard grooming and aesthetics for them, part of general fitness wellness culture,

For nude beaches they tend to attract to be blunt here less attractive women on average, when we see iltb or bsome videos i would imagine we are getting tail end of the distribution and that is far from what you would you see on average day. Eg for spain most of the women going to the nude beaches are countercultural and alterantive and so shaving would be seen as submitting to capitalist expectaions or gender norms and so to them not shaving is an act of rebellion and plain laziness. With the wnbr for spain one positive was the far higher ratio of women and almost all nude but almost all genuine protestors almost no typical spanish girls let alone all the cute latin america and eatsern euopean immigrants who populate barcelona and madrid.

whilst for skiing you are going to get much higher income women on average who care very much about their apperance and presnetation, hence shaved. the only thing with skiing is it may devlove into very male heavy enviornment esp if only sauna and not attached wellness

[rudolfm]

For US folks, and (other countries), nudity is something out of order that must have a reason. You're skinny dipping, flashing, showing off, painting bodies, protestting, wanting sex, or whatever.

Simply being nude is not in your scope. Just being nude without implications, like you might be at home doesn't figure. Being in a park, spa, or whatever and not being forced to wear clothes is something done in Europe which doesn't compute in the US. The US hippes got it, but that has gone lost. Them being nude has nothing to do with you or anybody else, they simply don't want clothes. Personal freedom.

So any speculations about nude women being shaved or not, being hot or not, or whatever doesn't figure. You're not meant, you don't matter. I hope some will understand.