Content Classification Issue

[Belini]

Hello. I've been browsing the forums for a while now, and while I love the site and appreciate the measures the administration takes to keep the site safe, I'm baffled at the category you classify one thing in particular.

Your Hardcore section is the exclusive location for pictures depicting sexual acts, shots of the interiors of people's bodies, and semen. I avoid this section because I only enjoy looking at clean photos and videos. I feel this classification as Hardcore makes sense.

Your ENF & Exhibitionism/Voyeur sections, however, permit threads depicting girls going to the bathroom, and depicting that act and those substances is equally as vulgar as depicting masturbation and semen, which is just another substance from the body.

Even if those photos happen to depict embarrassed women, the logic used to classify what's posted in the Hardcore section seems to indicate that the bathroom photos should also go there. After all, a photo of an embarrassed woman having graphic sex wouldn't be permitted in the ENF section, nor would a woman having anal sex in public be permitted in Exhibitionism.

I know the biggest argument against this is going to be "just don't click on it," but the "don't click on it" logic doesn't really apply since that could be said of the Hardcore content as well. I don't click on them anyway, but even seeing the thread titles causes imagery that's not at all Softcore. Besides that, the fact they aren't classified as Hardcore means those photos end up posted in other clean threads as well, which makes ignoring them completely difficult.

I think it would be much more appropriate if those types of photos were relegated to the Hardcore section. If the administration here has a legitimate argument for why that shouldn't be the case, I'd appreciate a logical explanation, because the status quo seems illogical to me. Frankly, it's the only thing that doesn't make sense to me about the site's operations.

[Slick]

A woman caught going to the bathroom is not a sexual act. The photos should not be in the Hardcore Amateurs section simply because they are not depicting anything related to sex, as you said, they depict embarrassed women.

Also, the majority of photos posted of women caught in the act don't show anything explicit, it's mostly women covering up or not showing much because of how their body is positioned. A lot of the photos are taken from websites like Webshots or Facebook, so they're pretty tame.

Slick

[Belini]

Seeing a urine stream may not be seeing a sex-related fluid, but it is body fluid, and is not something everyone can stomach. How is seeing one bodily excrement different from seeing another?

[Fango]

Originally Posted by Belini

Seeing a urine stream may not be seeing a sex-related fluid, but it is body fluid, and is not something everyone can stomach. How is seeing one bodily excrement different from seeing another?

Because semen is a sexual body fluid and urine is not. You can't get pregnant by being pissed on. It's as simple as that, really.

Fango

[Klondike]

Originally Posted by Belini

Seeing a urine stream may not be seeing a sex-related fluid, but it is body fluid, and is not something everyone can stomach. How is seeing one bodily excrement different from seeing another?

While Fango's point is well taken, I don't have an easy answer to your question which is a very reasonable one.

Also, there are pee pics and then there are pee pics. What I mean is this: Take FICEB, for eample, the hardcore erotic show that takes place in Barcelona every year. I've seen pics of babes peeing into the crowd, a very open and explicit act that many would find disturbing. If I was posting a bunch of FICEB pics, I would certainly group those with the other hardcore FICEB pics and post them in the hardcore forum. Same goes for other pee pics where the word "Fetish" comes to mind rather than ENF or whatever.

But the types of pee pics usually found in the ENF section (not so many in the exhibitionist forum) form a natural grouping that are not fetish pics but just girls anwering the call who happened to be photographed in the process. Its a tough call. Personally, I separate all my non graphic from my graphic pee pics. I do this because once upon a time, I was a bit put off by the graphic ones. Now I am more jaded. So what I am trying to say is your question is not a trivial one, and there may be a lot of users with similar issues. Fango is right that by definition, there is nothing sexual in peeing, but that could be said for some other types of photos I can think of that would not be permissible not only in the hardcore section, but ANYWHERE on the board. Use your imagination. That said, what is the best solution?

Well, maybe it sort of gets handled like links to pics with kiddies in them. Kiddie pics can have the same sort of effect on people as graphic pee pics can. But if too few complain, it is not worth the mods or anyone else's effort to do anything about it. That is I guess where things stand now. Not enough people find the current situation to be objectionable for there to be any action. I'll leave it at that, but just wanted to acknowledge your concern as I think you raised a valid issue. Just IMHO, and not to stick my nose where it doesn't belong.

So, maybe it could be a poll question or something: "Is a very explicit pee pic a hardcore pic?" A very explicit view of the body part and the act, IMHO, is a hardcore pic. Again, just my opinion and I would certainly welcome opposing views.

Klondike

[Wetmac]

I think klondike has answered it better than any of us could. Also from my experience the majority of the pee pics are in the one thread with pee pics in the title. The easiest way to avoid being offended if that material does offend you would be to not open threads titled as such.