Anyone else have a nudist partner?

[DiegoJames]

Originally Posted by nudony

The "moral" of this story is that it's nearly impossible to maintain this "ladylike" thing; unless you literally just keep your legs closed at all times. Which quickly would prove uncomfortable and impractical.

Agree, 100%.

Yes, she was probably right 'back in the day', when 'unladylike' poses were the preserve of top shelf magazines. Wasn't it the received wisdom in 'ladies finishing schools' to sit knees together at all times? Nowadays, some of us are in working environments where we're sometimes familiar with the underwear of female colleagues due to them being less 'ladylike' in that regard.

The thing is, women will adopt 'unladylike' positions in a clothed environment, i.e one leg d****d over the arm of an armchair or kneed up against their chin while sitting on a seat, and no one blinks an eyelid. Because those are often 'comfortable' positions to sit in.

Naturism evolves. When I got into it no-one shaved. No-one used genital or nipple piercings. And to be shaving or having a nipple pierced, never mind a clit ring or scrotum piercings, wasn't considered 'the done thing'. Nowadays, no one cares!

In naturism, no one cares about these 'unladylike' sitting/sunbathing positions.

(Edit : an innocent word, as in to fold something over, or an alternative word for a curtain, appears to have been censored)

[winston optic beer]

Originally Posted by nudony

The "moral" of this story is that it's nearly impossible to maintain this "ladylike" thing; unless you literally just keep your legs closed at all times. Which quickly would prove uncomfortable and impractical.

Absolutely. In the best possible taste.

[barnyb]

Originally Posted by DiegoJames

Agree, 100%.

Yes, she was probably right 'back in the day', when 'unladylike' poses were the preserve of top shelf magazines. Wasn't it the received wisdom in 'ladies finishing schools' to sit knees together at all times? Nowadays, some of us are in working environments where we're sometimes familiar with the underwear of female colleagues due to them being less 'ladylike' in that regard.

The thing is, women will adopt 'unladylike' positions in a clothed environment, i.e one leg d****d over the arm of an armchair or kneed up against their chin while sitting on a seat, and no one blinks an eyelid. Because those are often 'comfortable' positions to sit in.

Naturism evolves. When I got into it no-one shaved. No-one used genital or nipple piercings. And to be shaving or having a nipple pierced, never mind a clit ring or scrotum piercings, wasn't considered 'the done thing'. Nowadays, no one cares!

In naturism, no one cares about these 'unladylike' sitting/sunbathing positions.

(Edit : an innocent word, as in to fold something over, or an alternative word for a curtain, appears to have been censored)

I find that some woman are shy about their labias and will not show particularly middle waged woman. I have been with some woman at the beach for several days and have not seen their lips. There will always be those that are comfortable with their legs spread. What I have noticed is that younger woman are now more comfortable with their legs apart. They are modern, have grown up with the internet and are flirty. To have their pussies exposed is modern, confident, and acceptable. Just look at all the selfies of girls on the internet.

What should be understood is that these woman are not necessarily wanting sexual attention, they are just flirting. They like to be viewed but not necessarily perved at. The line can be fine between the two.

[nudony]

Originally Posted by barnyb

I find that some woman are shy about their labias and will not show particularly middle waged woman.

I think the "smoothy" movement has a lot to do with this. It just "took off" sometime in the early 90's; as the thong became popular and women had to shave more and more in order to not have hair sticking out from under their tiny thong. Brazilian waxing just grew from there as younger women decided to go completely smooth.

Some of the "older" nudist women I knew and spoke with were totally against shaving completely. They felt it was "immodest", "pre-pubescent" or even "pornographic." I understood the resistance: they had grown up in an era where a full bush was the norm and provided a natural "coverage" to their most intimate part. I think it was definitely a lingering sense of modesty.

My fiancée doesn't go completely smooth because she doesn't like the way her labia looks shaved bald. But my ex decided to try it one day. She had spoken with some of these "older" women who were "pro-bush"; so for a while she kept hers. But then she saw some smooth women at the resort and liked the way it looked. So one day after the resort she decided to shave completely when we got home, and shave bald again before we headed back out to the resort.
And it completely changed her attitude about being naked. She told me one day that the feeling of the pool water hitting her bald pussy, or applying lotion and feeling the sun tanning her naked labia, made her feel even more naked, even more "free." So she threw out the notion of "ladylike" posture these "older" nudist women had shared with her; which she came to consider as antiquated; even anti-feminist. Her viewpoint was that if men could lay with their legs open, there was no reason why she couldn't lay or sit the same way. Her attitude reflected her viewpoint: she didn't "spread-eagle" for anyone's benefit (unless she was joking around), but she didn't make any effort to hide her bald pussy from anyone either.

I think a lot of women have experienced that same sense of "liberation" when shaving completely. And so legs started opening up more. But I also think variety is great: "modestly" hairy pubes or totally bald; it's all good as long as everyone is comfortable. Both should be accepting of each other.

[winston optic beer]

Originally Posted by nudony

But I also think variety is great: "modestly" hairy pubes or totally bald; it's all good as long as everyone is comfortable. Both should be accepting of each other.

I’d like to see a world where women are free to cover themselves from head to foot in a burka or strut around completely naked and delipata on a beach as they choose. It’s nobody’s business but their own. Having said that I have great admiration for women who have the bottle to do the latter.

However, I don’t necessarily see removal of hair as liberating - we don’t see too many women emulating men by shaving their heads.

[nectcouple]

Originally Posted by winston optic beer

- we don’t see too many women emulating men by shaving their heads.

Thank God!

[winston optic beer]

Originally Posted by nectcouple

Thank God!

Some people out there like that kind of thing

[sammy15]

My wife and I have been frequenting nudist resorts since the 1980's and we still do today. I was wondering, there is a segment of the visitors who go to these resorts not because they are nudist, per say, but for other reasons. Nothing out in the open mind you, but an undercurrent. I am not judging anyone, to each his own, but was the movement like that back in the 50's and 60's? In the magazines it seems a bit more wholesome, while today once has to be alert for possible other motives when meeting someone at the resort.

[nudony]

Originally Posted by sammy15

My wife and I have been frequenting nudist resorts since the 1980's and we still do today. I was wondering, there is a segment of the visitors who go to these resorts not because they are nudist, per say, but for other reasons. Nothing out in the open mind you, but an undercurrent. I am not judging anyone, to each his own, but was the movement like that back in the 50's and 60's? In the magazines it seems a bit more wholesome, while today once has to be alert for possible other motives when meeting someone at the resort.

It depends where you go. Some family-oriented rustic resorts have maintained that same "wholesome" culture; while others, for the sake of increased revenue, adopted a more "liberated" approach. Thereby attracting people who were looking for more than just suntanning or swimming naked.

When my ex and I relocated and started looking at nudist resorts, we visited two. The first was huge, with nice amenities; but had a strong sexual undercurrent. I didn't mind the undercurrent, and neither did my wife; but at the time that wasn't what we were looking for. And after having a chat with one of the regulars there, I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone asked me if they could fuck my wife.
The second resort was rustic and wasn't quite as nice, but it was family-oriented and there was no sexual undercurrent. So we made it our "home away from home."

I'm not sure when this cultural split between resort types occurred. I remember reading an article from the 70's which was bemoaning the sexualization of nudism. So it might have started around the "sexual revolution" era.

[JonThink]

I had wanted to try a nudist resort for decades, but I knew my prude wife would never go for it. We had been to a number of nude beaches, and she always gave me a tough time about going. At one point, my wife was complaining about wearing such skimpy clothes at biker rallies. She said, "If you want me that nude, why don't we just go to a nudist resort?" I thought that she was kidding, but I saw no smile. I said, "Sure, if you are willing to go and get naked." She agreed that she would. So off we went. It was amazing to see her get totally naked and assimilate so fast into the nudist culture. There seemed to be no hesitation or embarrassment whatsoever. She readily jumped into the pool and hot tub with many naked people present. She also didn't blink an eye at showering nude with naked men only a few feet away while she soaped up her entire body. She also readily gave naked hugs to nude people of both sexes as we said our good-bye's. She didn't hesitate or hold back when it came to shaking it all while nude on the dance floor or even dancing with other nude men. At our initial nude stop, we had planned to stay a total of three days. But when it was time to depart, she asked if we could stay an extra day or two. She was enjoying the heck out of walking around in her birthday suit. We played tennis, pickle ball, shot pool, played ping pong and even shot some baskets. And I must say that I totally enjoyed some of the views that I had while watching her do everything from dancing to tennis. The pool shots leaning across the table were nice -- front and rear. They say that these nudist resorts are non-sexual, but I have difficulty thinking that all these guys are not getting somewhat of a sexual eyeful when looking at some pretty nice ladies. I know my wife has a lot better idea how I measure up below the belt since going to these resorts. And one of the last nude resorts that we went to, we accepted an invitation from a couple to drop into their place for an evening drink. That later led to an accompanying invitation to have a swinging session with that couple. My wife and I just do soft swinging and are not into the hard swaps that this couple were suggesting. So I don't believe that all is totally non-sexual at these nude resorts. But, at least, the ones we have attended had nothing overtly sexual being done in any public areas. I would guess that there are many private sessions that can and do occur from time to time. The one thing that I do know is that my wife is not as uptight about being partially nude or dressing less modestly since going to these resorts. It is also interesting that she won't allow herself to call herself a nudist. We probably spend about three weeks a year or a little over at nude resorts. So far this year, we have stayed two weeks at nude resorts, and will probably stay another 10 days at another nude resort. Therefore, my wife is publicly nude about one month per year. When does she call herself a nudist? I think she doesn't like the label for some reason, but methinks she qualifies.