WNBR 2011

[madahab]

Originally Posted by simonlintworm

Got 1 more chicago. Damn that girl got a big ass!
I like it though

you have to take a close look at those tattoos!!!!

[jacobite]

Originally Posted by BeachBiker

If what is happening on my favorite nude beach happens to the London WNBR, it could wind up with no young women at all.

We've got a problem with brave gangs of eight or ten young "Muslim appearing" men who think of themselves as "Real Men" yet they are only brave enough to strip to below the knee "shorts" and tee shirts, and only come in large groups of fellow thugs.

They then bravely surround young nude women who are there in pairs or alone and bully them. It's got to be a frightening experience for the young women and they don't return to the beach. Some great older women try to seek out the younger ones and invite them to join larger more protective groups of older folk on the beach, especially on their first visits.

One woman even flies a flag that lets these young and attractive women know where to go for protection. But, these young lovelies go to the beach for a no-lines tan, and to enjoy themselves, not to feel threatened. The nude natives are getting restless and one of these days there will be a major incident, involving these gangs, and/or unwanted photographers in general. Somebody is going to get seriously hurt. Thankfully, the beach police are top notch and respond quickly and in numbers to cell phone calls when there is a problem.

This is NOT an anti-religious, or racist comment. Just an observation of reality. I have Muslim friends, and there are Muslim women I know that I really care about. But some of these guys are brought up to think of women as some kind of inferior human beings who can be bullied and exploited at will, and forget they are living in the West where women are very valued equals.

I hope whomever organizes the WNBR London doesn't let it be ruined by these thugs. Its a problem that can be fixed, before any more potential female riders are frightened away and the whole great idea fizzles.

This topic brought to mind probably the most moving photograph I have even seen come out of a WNBR event. It's NOT from this year, but it's significance is worth appreciating.

May God Bless This Brave and Beautiful Muslim Woman who rode in Madrid a few years ago, she has no idea of how significant a statement she made for all her fellow Muslim women made to wear Burqas, the world can see they are real women, and not servile creatures who should be hidden from view and abused.........

Fully agree with your post and all!
One very brave explanation. Only one thing I'd like to brush up here is that a good number of these opportunistic snappers, cameramen, etc happen to be Asian men (Arab, Indian, Pakistani, bangladeshi, Sri lankan etc) who pretty much have a distorted view of the WNBR event itself. This is NOT a nudist show, neither is it a public pron event! My cousin and his girlfriend (who were there in London 2010, but not this year) told me some time back they overheard a group of such blokes making very loud sexist and derogatory comments about British women's bodies, etc.

But rest assured, I've got South Asian & Arab friends who are not of the sort, having myself lived in London for a good ten years. It's only sad that these people (luckily a minority) just pop up there just like that... Btw, naked Indian and Arab men(I think) have participated. I wish to see their women follow suit. That would be so lovely.

[Pedro the Fisherman]

I would also like to add that at Brighton, we try to keep the snappers away from the bodypainting area, as people feel more exposed there. These guys (pretty much 100% UK born I would say) seem to treat as some kind of 'ritual' of bravado to get as many close up shots as possible.


When asked to respect the people they are snapping (often just a matter of asking for a photo, I know I do it myself), they usually respond about it being a 'free country' or a 'public space' and they can do as they want!

I 100% agree that to take photos is OK (I have to be careful now) but it is the manner in which they crowd (London seems much worse) the girls, who they seem to think of as a bit of an 'easy' type of girl (I would say the opposite is in fact true) that is there for the purpose of proving how much a man they are!

Some right wing Christian and Muslim groups (together, see what it takes to unite these two odd bedfellows!!!) tried very hard (including a public petition) to get a new ride stopped in the UK, I find it ironic that when a ride happens, some of these people are seemingly at the front of the queue for getting some photos!

I know of only one female rider (the cat/blue/tiger lady of Southampton in 2008,2010 and 2011)) who I know is from a muslim country, but have seen quite a few from south asia (Indian origin), both male and female naked riders, but I assume they are of hindu origins.

[simonlintworm]

Today must be our lucky day. Found some great shots today.(including barclaysgirl which I will upload in her own thread)

there's lots more to be found in this guy's photostream

hxxp://www.flickr.com/photos/61828001@N04/

[tetrak74]

Originally Posted by BeachBiker

If what is happening on my favorite nude beach happens to the London WNBR, it could wind up with no young women at all.

We've got a problem with brave gangs of eight or ten young "Muslim appearing" men who think of themselves as "Real Men" yet they are only brave enough to strip to below the knee "shorts" and tee shirts, and only come in large groups of fellow thugs.

They then bravely surround young nude women who are there in pairs or alone and bully them. It's got to be a frightening experience for the young women and they don't return to the beach. Some great older women try to seek out the younger ones and invite them to join larger more protective groups of older folk on the beach, especially on their first visits.

I'd suggest that these women film these thugs with camcorders a/o camera phones - ideally, the better/more high-res the better - in the act of harassing them. Thugs don't like being photographed while in the act. That might cause them to scatter. Once filmed, the women could take the video to the police. Even if people aren't keen on nude beaches, they'd likely be more upset at young men going out of their way to disturb the women on the beach. If they had clear video of the men who were harassing, the police could identify them, pay 'em a visit and charge them criminally. They could put the video on youtube, etc. That would gain sympathy from the public, and public opinion might then lean harder on the men to stop.

[barbec11]

Or maybe just hit them in the head with a bat.

[newbie66]

Hope these arent reposts, apologies if they are....

[simonlintworm]

some more london...

also, this guy has uploaded some videos:
hxxp://www.youtube.com/user/TheDarkMonarch1

[BeachBiker]

I'd suggest that these women film these thugs with camcorders a/o camera phones - ideally, the better/more high-res the better - in the act of harassing them. Thugs don't like being photographed while in the act.

Snapping the Bully snappers is a great idea that might be a big help on the London ride as well as on the nude beach.

As I mentioned in my post, the nude natives at my favorite beach are getting restless. There are, at least, two websites that have been set up to carry pictures of the offending snappers and thugs. The beach regulars are also setting up twitter sites, and SMS relays so that beach flash mobs can quickly form around any offending thugs while waiting the few minutes for the police also to arrive in force.

There have been calls for making the beach "Mandatory Nude" instead of "clothing optional" since most of the problems come from hero's too ashamed of their bodies to even wear normal bathing trunks, let alone go fully nude like almost everybody else.

The problem really is that these thugs often discourage the young women by intimidating them on their very first visit to the beach, which is very large. Newbies often set up off by themselves for privacy, and it is those admirable older women regulars who seek the newbie young nudes out, and invite them into a protective group and explain the situation to them.

By the way, the beach is full of current and former military, police and fireman, big strong guys who would rush to help any damsel in distress in a heartbeat. But they have to be aware of it. More than once the thugs have had their cell phones and cameras thrown into the ocean, where they were also too scared to go fetch them, probably because they are afraid of the waves.

Most of the time, this beach is peaceful, quite, friendly and lots of fun. Unfortunately, these thugs are like sand flies that buzz around just enough to ruin the overall experience. However, they have a lasting effect because they scare away the young women permanently.

As far as encouraging the nude ladies riders in London goes, Pedro hit the nail of the problem on the head:

These guys (pretty much 100% UK born I would say) seem to treat as some kind of 'ritual' of bravado to get as many close up shots as possible.

they seem to think of as a bit of an 'easy' type of girl (I would say the opposite is in fact true) that is there for the purpose of proving how much a man they are!

What makes these WNBR events so appealing is the fact that the women are NOT the "Easy" kind. These guys don't understand that "Easy" women are easily seen nude in person at their closest strip club, and these riders have normal jobs, and are otherwise normal wives, girlfriends, sisters, cousins, nieces etc. who do this once a year, often for a cause. So, the WNBR organizers should really set up a way to communicate this cultural reality to these offensive snappers who don't get it. It's a public relations education problem.

some time back they overheard a group of such blokes making very loud sexist and derogatory comments about British women's bodies, etc.

Yeah, the clowns on the beach say the same kinds of things as they stand there cowardly covered almost from head to toe. The comments are probably their own insecurities coming through.

Possibly, a group of "Snap the Snappers" video guys can be organized for next year's London ride to give the women riders a boost. Possibly, the offending snappers will tone down their nastiness if they know "they" are being fully recorded and will have "their" images posted.

In the few posts on this board there have been some interesting suggestions on how to better deal with these characters who are discouraging women from fully participating in an annual event we all look forward to seeing on this website. Let's hope somebody who can make improvements hears them, and does something while there are still enough women riders left to keep it going.

I have mentioned in other posts, how many of the former regulars were missing from the London ride this year.

And let me apologize for writing too long and seriously on a board and thread that should be about fun pictures of women we love to look at. But, as Pedro mentioned from being there in person, there seems to be a real threat that within a couple of years women will stop riding in the London WNBR because of these guys.

It is a problem that can be solved, and it is in everybody's interest to solve it. Let's hope somebody who can make meaningful change gets the message. And now lets get back to all those great pictures. Enough of this serious stuff already !!!!

[crispus]

Seattle included ride, fountain splash, and skinnydip; to paraphrase: not a lot there, but what there was, was cherce! Here some samples...