Majorca - Day 1

[ncis_uk]

on another site a guy had a good one. He had a book with a shiny cover that had lots of circles on the front. He cut out a circle and trenched out a hole in the book the same size as his old phone. He then taped the pages shut but in a way the back was still usable if need to. He then used a thumb sized bluetooth remote to snap his pics.

He used to post in Flickr but I think he had his account deleted?

DTR

[AndyR]

Originally Posted by ncis_uk

on another site a guy had a good one. He had a book with a shiny cover that had lots of circles on the front. He cut out a circle and trenched out a hole in the book the same size as his old phone. He then taped the pages shut but in a way the back was still usable if need to. He then used a thumb sized bluetooth remote to snap his pics.

He used to post in Flickr but I think he had his account deleted?

DTR

Exactly, there are various ways to do this, and I don't think there is any one "perfect" way.

Another one I've seen results from is mounting a GoPro or Sony Action Cam in a large plastic drink cup with a hole cut in the side for the lens to peek out (look for a cup with writing on it that includes at least one letter "O"). Make sure you have a lid & a straw & pretend to take a drink on a regular basis. Both GoPro and Sony have devices that look like sports watches, but are actually tiny remote controls with viewing screens. By wearing the control face in (like many people wear their watches) you can keep the screen close to your body and private. These same mini cameras can be monitored via smartphones as well, although in that case why not just use the smart phone camera. The problem with these types of adventure cameras is they have very, very wide angle lenses (so you have to get very close to your subject of interest), and tend to give a "fisheye" look to your videos / photos.

It's also important to understand the dynamics of the beach, and how much personal space people expect at a particular location. You know, like if there are only 4 people on 2km of beach, and you spend 1/2 hour sauntering around the only topless or nude woman, while wearing jeans & a long sleeve shirt, then you are asking for trouble. Conversely, if a small or narrow beach has a lot of people on it, people of all ages & genders are walking freely, passing close to topless female sun bathers, and you are dressed appropriately (as in wearing something similar to other beach goers of your gender and age), then it would be extremely unlikely that you would have any trouble using any of the sample techniques mentioned in the last few posts.

Case in point, one well known nude beach shooter from the early 2000's would get naked himself at the nude beach, find a likely prospect, settle himself into a viable filming position, and actually spend a believable amount of time sunbathing himself, before moving on.

Too many people post on forums like this thinking there is one single magic bullet solution that will let you shoot a dozen ILoveThe Beach style videos in half an hour.

There is NOT!!!

If you really want to do this, then you need to use your imagination, you will need to test out several variations of several techniques, and above all, practice, practice, practice.

The real question people interested in this hobby should be asking themselves is:

How good do you want to be, and how much time / money are you willing to spend on it???

If you think you are going to do this for $20, and get good at it in 20 minutes, you will much more likely find yourself sitting in a jail somewhere in the world.

[Flynn77]

Originally Posted by AndyR

Exactly, there are various ways to do this, and I don't think there is any one "perfect" way.

Another one I've seen results from is mounting a GoPro or Sony Action Cam in a large plastic drink cup with a hole cut in the side for the lens to peek out (look for a cup with writing on it that includes at least one letter "O"). Make sure you have a lid & a straw & pretend to take a drink on a regular basis. Both GoPro and Sony have devices that look like sports watches, but are actually tiny remote controls with viewing screens. By wearing the control face in (like many people wear their watches) you can keep the screen close to your body and private. These same mini cameras can be monitored via smartphones as well, although in that case why not just use the smart phone camera. The problem with these types of adventure cameras is they have very, very wide angle lenses (so you have to get very close to your subject of interest), and tend to give a "fisheye" look to your videos / photos.

It's also important to understand the dynamics of the beach, and how much personal space people expect at a particular location. You know, like if there are only 4 people on 2km of beach, and you spend 1/2 hour sauntering around the only topless or nude woman, while wearing jeans & a long sleeve shirt, then you are asking for trouble. Conversely, if a small or narrow beach has a lot of people on it, people of all ages & genders are walking freely, passing close to topless female sun bathers, and you are dressed appropriately (as in wearing something similar to other beach goers of your gender and age), then it would be extremely unlikely that you would have any trouble using any of the sample techniques mentioned in the last few posts.

Case in point, one well known nude beach shooter from the early 2000's would get naked himself at the nude beach, find a likely prospect, settle himself into a viable filming position, and actually spend a believable amount of time sunbathing himself, before moving on.

Too many people post on forums like this thinking there is one single magic bullet solution that will let you shoot a dozen ILoveThe Beach style videos in half an hour.

There is NOT!!!

If you really want to do this, then you need to use your imagination, you will need to test out several variations of several techniques, and above all, practice, practice, practice.

The real question people interested in this hobby should be asking themselves is:

How good do you want to be, and how much time / money are you willing to spend on it???

If you think you are going to do this for $20, and get good at it in 20 minutes, you will much more likely find yourself sitting in a jail somewhere in the world.

Hi Andy.

'Case in point, one well known nude beach shooter from the early 2000's would get naked himself at the nude beach, find a likely prospect, settle himself into a viable filming position, and actually spend a believable amount of time sunbathing himself, before moving on.'

I've been enjoying the nude beahc voyeur stuff on the web since the internet ran on coal.

Who is the voyeur you're talking about - one of the old VW guys? One of them is still in action (Sandfly).

Is he the one? If so, when did he share his secrets? Still gets amazing scenes. I like the stuff that's obviously NOT staged - too much of the HQ material around looks suspiciously convenient and the girls pretty dumb not to have seen the camera.

[AndyR]

Originally Posted by Flynn77

Hi Andy.

I've been enjoying the nude beach voyeur stuff on the web since the internet ran on coal.

Who is the voyeur you're talking about - one of the old VW guys? One of them is still in action (Sandfly).

Is he the one? If so, when did he share his secrets? Still gets amazing scenes. I like the stuff that's obviously NOT staged - too much of the HQ material around looks suspiciously convenient and the girls pretty dumb not to have seen the camera.

The internet still does run on coal... according to statistics, 30% of all US power generation in 2016 was produced by coal. (but I know what you mean - lol)

I think I probably shouldn't say who I am referring to, other than to say the shooter in question used to have a pay site dedicated to beach material, and that his method appeared to work quite successfully.

Also, I disagree with your last statement, or at least in relation to the content from ILoveTheBeach & several other popular sites. The vast majority of that I've seen is shot in Eastern European countries (enter text from signs in the videos into Google translate set to "detect language", or pause the video & use GT in photo OCR mode on your phone to do a real-time translation & tell you what language it is to figure out what country it was shot in). People there still aren't as wound up tight about voyeurism as in other places... yet. And while I have no specific knowledge of the exact video camera setup they use, I can think of various methods of getting the footage that their guys do. It's pretty clear to me that their shooters pick a girl, then sit down and focus on getting top quality footage her for as long as they can, as opposed to "running & gunning" as many different girls as they can in an afternoon. The camera clearly is obscured in some way, because if the girl goes to the water or walks around, there is only a limited range of camera motion, and sometimes a black edge of something comes into the frame, although they are pretty careful about editing out anything that would hint at what type of "container" they use to hide the camera. When you are shooting in a relaxed, thoughtful manner like that, you have more options, because you can bring a reclining chair (or on some beaches they rent them) or blanket, and sports bag with your "stuff" in it (could this be where the camera is?), drinks, maybe a small cooler (could this be where the camera is?) all the usual stuff that non-voyeur-shooter beach-goers bring to the beach.

As I talked about in the "Ranger Adventure" thread in the upskirts section, how the public perceives YOU is probably even more important than your equipment. People will sometimes believe what they are told, but they NEVER doubt what they conclude on their own. I got great shots at a certain yearly drinking festival because rather than skulking around like a guilty conscience voyeur, I took pictures of anything and everything with my camera fully visible all the time. People concluded I was the event photographer and invited me to take their pictures, and this allowed me the freedom to obtain many great upskirt shots as well. If you go to the beach decked out like all the other beach-goers, you will quickly blend in, and no further attention will be paid to you. I can almost guarantee you this is how the ILoveTheBeach guys do it.

One time at the Barcelona beach, I watched a guy with a huge, white Canon lens on a 1D<something> pretending to take pictures of a pretty girl who was pretending to be a bikini model. What they were actually doing was working as a team to get high resolution stills of topless women sunbathing on the beach. How do I know? Because as someone with extensive experience with cameras, I knew she was too close to the massive telephoto lens for her to actually be the subject of the photo, and I also knew that the field of view of that lens to be so narrow as that she would not even appear in the image given that angle he had his camera pointed at (slightly to the left or right of her head). But the average beach goer would **never doubt** that this was a model shoot, thus nobody was paying the slightest amount of attention to them.

[F4ther_T3d]

Originally Posted by AndyR

Most shooters don't care to reveal their secrets for a variety of reasons, but I think FT tells us everything we need to know to make a logical deduction in post #2 on this thread:



From this statement, we might deduce he is using the *video* mode on a *smartphone*.

In case you've never been to Majorca (or Barcelona), women basically take off their tops as casually as men do. I suppose it might have changed since the last time I was there (due to the Muslim immigrant problems), but I saw more bare tits in the first 5 minutes on Barcelona beach than I did spending 5 days shooting Mardi Gras with a backpack full of beads (in the days before hurricane Katrina ruined Mardi Gras). Majorca is equally good, if not better.

So, we've got our top end smartphone in hand (the cameras on the iPhone 7, Galaxy 8, Google Pixel etc are exceptional), it's a bright sunny day, and we are walking down the beach, phone in hand, our earbuds in, our mirrored shades on, pretending to be minding our own business & grooving to our tunes. In reality, we are checking out the babes from behind our mirrored shades, and our phone is in video record mode, with the screen brightness dimmed so people walking by don't see what we are recording. We are "shooting from the hip" (literally & figuratively)... we don't know *exactly* what we are recording, but we are not too worried, for the following reasons:

1) Our smartphone camera has a pretty wide angle lens, so we have a lot of leeway.
2) We are walking slowly, and gently moving the phone so as to definitely get coverage of our target babe
3) It's a bright sunny day, the phone's camera shutter speed is very high, so there is almost no motion blur on each frame of our video. Screen captures will be excellent under these conditions.
4) The sensor is tiny, and if our phone has an adjustable aperture, it's stopped down, under these conditions depth of field is almost infinite, so focus is not a problem in most cases.
5) If we really need to raise the camera higher and / or see what we are shooting, we can pretend to be texting, or looking for a new song, which gives us the freedom to shoot very precisely from chest level for short periods of time.
6) We might even be so lucky as to have a phone with a 4K camera, in which case we can do a HUGE amount of cropping of the captured image, and still have a pretty good sized image to post on OCC.

Sound possible? That's how I'd do it these days... you are not quite going to get ILoveTheBeach quality, but it's going to be up there, depending on which phone you are willing to throw down your hard earned cash for.

@ F4ther T3d... I'd just like to say GREAT work & thanks for sharing!!!

Yep, you got it bang on....also, as you stated, this has taken many years of practise and an investment in equipment and time plus a degree of confidence to blend into the environment. I never "patrol" the beach but do go for higher density beaches and normally only cover them once or twice in a day. People will notice if you keep walking up and down even if it does look like your chilling out to your tunes. Be aware of other beach users because some do watch where you are walking and I always miss a few targets on purpose to throw the sent. Big thing to keep and eye on is beach vendors, life guards and Police. Never look like your avoiding them as they will get suspicious. Bottom line, if in doubt, chuck it out and don't take the risk. There we plenty of other opportunities I could have captured but I just felt it was too risky and walked on by. You'll often get them the next day. I also never look at the "target" and will often be looking the other way when walking past...this (as stated) is simply practise. The video grabs are in 4k (1920 x 1200) and not cropped. I think the quality is acceptable but not as good as a DSLR....but there is no fricking way I'm taking camera on a beach again...just too risky. I saw a guy this year doing it and "clocked" him and he knew he'd been busted...I've had people look at me when using iPhone Video but I look at them square on as I'm "just listening to my tunes"...by the way, I simply use a leather case to cover the screen but also use a screen protector that has privacy glass too.

Ohh...point worth mentioning, there are some grabs where it looks like I got busted but it's normally because I'm humming or whistling along to the supposed tunes and they happen to look up as I pass :-)

I'm glad that these shots are appreciated and enjoyed, be posting more soon.

Never forget that this is a risky hobby, which I think we all love, but it's not worth being busted for!!!

Be careful out there this summer.

FT

[F4ther_T3d]

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[F4ther_T3d]

Originally Posted by chris1988

How do you do it without getting caught?

Explained above, thanks for your interest

FT

[F4ther_T3d]

Originally Posted by F4ther_T3d

Day 4.7

https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/show...86#post2470386