Wife ever bartered her sex for things (not you)?

[Tx_rider]

Originally Posted by DRDavenport

That's not barter, that's blackmail.

Have to agree with this one. The difference is a fine line; but pretty definite.

[thephotoguy]

I'd probably agree with you if I hadn't started my discussion with her by offering to sell them to her at half off the then going rate. So the bartering was done from her side since she didn't want to pay cash. I should also note that she had signed model releases for some specific shoots and slightly broader releases for others.

[Tx_rider]

Okay; those details are considerable to make it a "bartering" story instead of a "blackmail" story.

Did you save any of the pics?

[xxxxenophile]

Originally Posted by thephotoguy

I'd probably agree with you if I hadn't started my discussion with her by offering to sell them to her at half off the then going rate. So the bartering was done from her side since she didn't want to pay cash. I should also note that she had signed model releases for some specific shoots and slightly broader releases for others.

Why wasn't she happy to recognize you? Did you part on unpleasant terms?

[DRDavenport]

Originally Posted by thephotoguy

I'd probably agree with you if I hadn't started my discussion with her by offering to sell them to her at half off the then going rate. So the bartering was done from her side since she didn't want to pay cash. I should also note that she had signed model releases for some specific shoots and slightly broader releases for others.

"The going rate"? What's the "going rate" for embarrassing pictures of someone?
Do you have a signed model release.

Still a lowlife in my book.

DR

[thephotoguy]

I will answer in reverse order:
Model release - Yes, for anything I intended or actually sold.
Going rate - I'm out of the business now but back then there were going rates for various types of photographs based on subject, rights, access to negatives etc. I don't remember what the rate was 30 years ago.

Not happy to see me -
We had a pleasant separation. She was starting to look for more permanence than I was prepared to provide. She told me that this was not unique to me and it took her two years and many guys before she met one who was looking for a longer term relationship.

I later learned that I wasn't the first photographer from her past. I had heard of an incident with Jane which occurred a year or so after we broke up but didn't have any details. What I since heard was that she made a bad decision and was doing something she shouldn't have been doing in a public place and the activity went south. Unfortunately, a paparazzi was in the area and photographed the activity. Paparazzi's today are a mix of good and bad but back in the 80's they were some of the most unethical/immoral people in the world. As a result, this guy waited until she was married and blackmailed her to perform for him. I have no direct knowledge of this but I believed the source. As a result she thought I was going to do the same thing. I wasn't but I was agreeable to her bargain she bartered.

I haven't spoken with Jane in many years so I don't know her current view of me. I think it would be mixed. In looking back there are a couple of things I regret but I can't take them back now.

Photographs-
Yes, while I don't have many since most were sold/bartered away I still have some. A few have leaked and I have actually seen a couple on this site. The leak was caused by a roommate hacking my computer 10 years ago

Any other questions?

[DRDavenport]

I still think it's tacky, if not outright blackmail....

If you had a personal relationship with her, a gentleman would have just given her the negatives and prints.

Just my opinion...

[captaintrips]

Strange how the supposed anonymity of a board like this allows folks to 'fess up to their at least reprehensible if not downright criminal behavior. Obtaining sex through coercion is r-a-p-e in most jurisdictions. No questions, no excuses.

[Onestopfuckshop]

the "bartering" she was doing was after the blackmail you started..nothing she could do..not cool dude

[five hole]

I used to date a girl named Jen who I actually thought might be the one at one point. We dated for five maybe four years and she ended our relationship. Jen was a bit of freak for me introduced me to many things I had not experienced yet and I gave her three things she had not had before: longevity in the bedroom, I cum a ton, and a challenge to get me off orally since I take so long. The result was awesome sex!!! All kinds of sex...

Our relationship never really died, but she told me she thought it best if I found someone special to marry since she had no desire. I was heartbroken for a while as I had kept hoping, but this just confirmed it. When she told me, I was not ready for it. After she left that day, I went thru a number of feelings. First, there was the shock... that lasted for a day. Second was denial in thinking she had just made a mistake that is all. Third, was me questioning myself and what I done... Then the fourth and final period, where I was mad about it.

After our break-up, Jen and I would talk on the phone still about every other day. I think we both needed it as she regularly called me. Then, I left for a week and we did not talk. While away, I opened up to a mutual female friend of mine about it saying I just didn't understand. She told me what any good friend would, "oh it is her loss", "She'll be back if she is smart", and she proceeded to tell me one last thing "She misses you whether she wants to admit it or not, I was over at her place and she does miss you."

This bothered me after I left and returned home. I went through those same feelings, shock, denial, heartbreak, and then anger all over again. Like magic, the next day she called and I softened a bit on the phone. Jen had some issues in her apartment with a TV and how to hook everything up with the VCR and cable box. She asked me I could please help her and I thought sure. I told her I'd be over shortly.

I arrived at her apartment and she answered the door. I remember seeing her and for a moment I felt like there might be some sort of magic again. It did not materialize on her end, but we did hug. She was wearing a tight tank top and khaki shorts with flip flops I recall and looked ready for us to go out. Jen, (as you might recall from a previous story) had long red hair, brown eyes, and a gorgeous body that was 5'6". She had great boobs (36C) and a great ass. She also had the complexion that is rare in red-heads... she did not BURN in the sun, but had a darker complexion. However, she did possess a temper I find to be a lot of red-headed people. Perhaps that is a stereo-type though.

To be honest, I pretended to look at the flow chart of how to hook everything up for a few minutes just to be there a little longer because I missed her. I then realized she came in put her hand on my back and was rubbing up and down as she said, "Is it going to be tough." I shot her look when I realized that she was massaging my back that was a questioning one, but dropped it quickly when I saw her eyes. When I told her it was 'a little complicated' she knew it was complicated, but I lied... I didn't even need the chart and could've had it done in a few minutes. I hooked everything up and then decided to align her remote for the TV to the cable box (which she did not ask for). Finishing up I called her in to show her and explain it all. After I was done showing her, I opened a drawer and grabbed a VHS tape (dating myself a little) and realized that I grabbed one we had purchased together. I saw other tapes and could've grabbed them, but I saw this almost instantly and just reached for it not really thinking.

It was porno she and I had purchased together at a porn shop. She liked the actor and I thought the girl in it was pretty cute (I believe the name was Chasey Lain). Jen actually bought the tape and we took it home originally and were going to do whatever our specific actors did on screen to each other. It was fun and we did it a few times with the different sex scenes. Maybe this is weird, but it was fun for us. So there I am holding this tape and she chimes in.

"Oh that... Yeah, I kept it. I still need it from time to time." I looked at her as she blushed and mentioned I had not seen it in some time. Jen suggested I pop it in to see if the VCR works so I did.

Yup, the VCR worked and I let the tape play. It brought back some memories and I know I had a stiff hard-on in my shorts. She saw it right away and asked when the last time I had any. I didn't say a word because I hadn't had any since she ended us. She knew by face I hadn't had any and the suggested something else.

"Why don't you jerk off right now to this video?" She realized the error in her thought process immediately as I had really had much luck with the solo jobs... But just to prove a point, I dropped my shorts and underwear and sat bare ass on her new sofa and started to jerk. In about four minutes she saw it was going anywhere when I said, "See, I need more than this video."

At first she seemed discussed and then she said, "FINE." I've come to learn this means anything, but 'fine' for us males. She pulled her tank top over her head, undid her bra, and dropped her shorts to the floor very quickly. Then she yanked down her thongs and made a gesture that I can only describe as "There... are you happy?"

I was and a little mad, but I went with a nod and tried to jerk, but I was watching her more than the tape. It initially made her upset and then she slowly started to watch the tape. Her hands cupped her boobs and she started to touch herself. I watched with intent as her facial expressions changed and she touched her clit and boobs. She was getting wet quickly by what I saw. Jen would look to me then and touch herself more which really got me jerking. I didn't think I could cum this way though as I hadn't ever.

Jenny was getting into it heavily and sat down in front of me facing the same direction as me, but lying with he head between my legs and looking up at both me and the TV. She was pleasuring herself as she did it and I reached down with a free hand and squeezed her boob.

She told me to stop, but that stop really didn't mean "STOP" and I pulled back for a little and then reached back down and did it again. Jen never said a word. I scooted forward so my ass was just barely on the couch and my balls and dick hovered over her chin, neck, and boobs. My free hand would routinely grab her sensitive boobs and nipples and tease them.

At this point I was not watching the movie at all and focused on Jen. There was a point, where my ass almost slipped all the way off the couch and I caught myself as Jen started to suck on my balls and then I finally lost it and ejaculated....

My cum would hit her neck, boobs, and belly as it triggered her to orgasm too. I just kept shooting it out as she licked my balls. None would ever touch her face, but I think I didn't miss much across the parts I described. As I finished, I pointed my dick downwards to her mouth hoping she'd suck on it. She moved out of the way and passed which was disappointing. I had cum a ton and she commented on it afterwards when she cleaned up. She thanked me for helping her as we both dressed and said she hoped she had helped me too. Oh she had, but I wanted more. We hugged and then I left feeling damn good. As I walked down her hallway, she called down to me, saying she'd give me a ring tomorrow.

At this point in reading this, you must be thinking, well, where the hell is the barter or trade? Oh... here it comes...

So she called and we ended up missing each other with messages for a few days until she left one last message. Jenny had mentioned that she had a plumbing problem and that she didn't know how to fix it. In her call she said, "I heard plumbers are really expensive and I thought maybe you could save me hundreds of dollars!" She then told me how her pipe under her sink had eroded and was leaking water when she drained it.

I listened to that message about four times thinking, HOW freaking easy it would be to do. On the fourth listen, the little devil who sometimes manifests himself on my shoulder came to offer some advise. I took it and listened one last time to the message. It would work.

So, I called Jen up and said I could help her out... I went over early on a Saturday (around 7AM) and she answered the door with a "thank god!!! I have all these dirty plates and I can't even run the garbage disposal." I asked her to show it to me and I looked under the sink and saw the problem. The previous owner had put in a metal pipe for the trap and it had rusted thru. I just needed to go buy a new one remove the old one and replace it.

I figured 30 minutes tops to install it, so I said, "Wow, this job is gonna' take some time and money." My head shook and she looked concerned. "I... I..." I was studdering because I didn't know what to say and was not a good liar. I looked to her not knowing what to do.

Jen had a look of concern and then looked at me and said, "What do you need from me?"

I paused and then went for broke. "Jen, I can do this job, but I want something from you. I'll need to go buy parts and tools to install this (true...) and use time I had planned for something else (well, not really anything pressing). If you want me to do this, I want to be able to fuck the shit out of you right now, however I want with no questions, no complaints, and with total enthusiasm out of you."

She bulked when I suggested my trade and stood there with her hands together like she had when I looked over the sink: in a praying posture, but up by her face. I paused, took a frustrated breath which was really just nerves and finished. "If you don't want me to do it and would rather a plumber I'd understand, but that is my offer to you."

She stood there and hadn't really budged except for the initial flinch at what I said. Then she said quietly, but loud enough so I could hear her. "OK."

"Okay?" She nodded yes and I proceeded, "So let's get to work on that first. I'm gonna' go ask that you go doll yourself up and put on your sl*ttiest outfit you have complete with heels. Do your hair, do it all... Then come out here and find me."

She gathered her thoughts for a second or trying to recall all I said, and then turned to go to her bedroom. As she left I sat down at the kitchen table and got to work on the project and figuring what I needed to buy. A minute later, I was drawing on the tablet and having fun. I could hear her taking a shower and then I heard the hair dryer. The bathroom door opened and closed a few times and then I heard her bedroom door open and close. I was doodling and drawing. I was trying my best to draw all Garfield from memory when I heard he holler, "Okay, I'm ready!"

I didn't want to hop up and pretend like I was too eager (which I was-- I had a hard-on the entire time thinking about this) so I slowly stood, stretched and then yawned, properly put my papers together and attempted to push down my hard on. My jeans ended up hiding it well as I untucked my t-shirt and went around the corner.

"WOW" She shocked me and definitely looked hot. Her hair was done down straight with dark eye make-up and dark red lipstick. She had on a black corset and thong with thigh highs and heels. She had a just a tiny little grin when she said, "Is this okay?"

I just nodded slowly when I really wanted to say, "FUCK YEAH!" But I tried to contain myself and did a pretty good job. I walked over to her and looked her up and down. She was a little uncomfortable with me not saying anything and when I paused looking her over she said, "what?"

"My dick is not gonna' suck itself", before I could realize how rude that sound. Before I could say more, she dropped down and unzipped my fly and took out my penis. She sucked on gently at first until I suggested she 'go for broke'. That prompted her to really suck on me and go pretty wild.

I'm not going to remember every single detail because this was a while ago... say 10 years or so. However, I do remember some amazing parts. I didn't wait too long before I took her to the bedroom. I was going to lick her to get her really ready, but when I started, she was dripping wet! I ended up just ramming myself inside her as I moved her thong to the side and just started to really give it to her. At first she was in shock over that and not ready for the roughness, but in a matter of minutes, the breathing, moans, and gripping her couch's pillows showed me she was into it far more than I suspected she would be so quickly.

I was pounding her and she let out a groan of enjoyment and then I cupped my hand and smacked her ass hard. Using the cupped hand made a good sound and yet didn't hurt her per say. She let out a "Fuck!" and I saw her right hand grip the pillow with a clenched hand. That scene has been burned into my memory. Jenny would get rather vocal during my pounding of her. As I grabbed her hips again, she would let out a long groan that changed in volume when my ball sack and dick smacked against her fully. I think the whole work up to this was getting me rather excited and I was soon pretty close after only about 10 minutes of a blowjob and 15 of sex. I decided to ram it in her and hold it there for a minute. Jenny shuttered and I could feel a huge amount of warmth and wetness come over my penis. Someone just had an orgasm!

After pulling out, I let her catch her breath for a second and help her stand up. As she did this I fully disrobed and pulled her into the bedroom. Jenny turned to me and I kissed her. She was really receptive to it and when I pulled back, I don't think she wanted me to.

I pushed her onto the bed and she landed on her back with a "hey!" I walked around the bed and pulled her arms so her head was hanging over the bed. I knew she kept a vibrator in her nightstand so I opened drawer and pulled it out. As I did this, Jenny wasted no time and started to suck on my ball sack as she lay on her back. I shoved that vibrator right into her and let it go. Immediately she sparked to life with a vocal sucking and enthusiasm! Jenny left my balls and let out a melting "oooooohhhhhh!!!" Then she put her mouth on my dick and started to suck. It took about three minutes and I was ready to explode. I pulled out hoping to prolong my experience. I leaned down so I was holding her ass with one hand and pushing her vibrator around with the other..

When I start to move that vibrator around I can tell she is ready again by a slight twitch as my cock smacks her face somewhere gently. I hear a "Oh Matt, Oh.... oh...." and then I can tell she is orgasming because she finds my penis with her mouth and begins to really pump me. That did it.

My penis just explodes with cum into her mouth and immediately it must be too much or too hard with her being basically upside down. I know a good bit of the initial blast is swallowed her by her, but then she is both coughing and moaning with pleasure. My dick unfortunately doesn't know that it should hold off and I can't see as I continue to blast the vibrator into her orgasming vagina!. So shots rain down on her face I can feel it as her hands are squeezing tight on my ass because she either doesn't want it like this or (as I thought then) she is liking my work on her vagina. I shoot a lot of good shots out and finally decide that I am done. I back away as she lets go of my ass. I see her roll over and sit up in bed and get a good look at her. "OH MY!", is all I can say.

The cum handy work I've accidentally managed to do is great. There is cum splattered all over her face and her make-up smeared with it. There is also some dripping down he face that had initially been going the wrong way. Jenny explains what happened as I start to chuckle and soon after she looks in the mirror she is.

We both take a shower together and I dress while she merely puts on a robe. I tell her I need to go by her stuff and I'll be back later to install it tomorrow. At the door, I tell her, "I hope you know that you've paid 1/2 of it off and tomorrow you'll pay off the rest!" A moment of silence is ended when she gives a "OKAY" back to me.

I walked out knowing full well what a "STEAL" of a deal I just got. The next day needed to be planned by me!