Sharing of the wife - Challenges

[fenderbender357]

I hope y'all keep things going in the right direction. I have to admit "while I don't like to" this thread has my intrest. Don't get me wrong I really am routing for you but I guess its human nature to find interest in drama.

[clitty]

We're getting there. I'm aware that this post is not exactly **SPANK-ABLE** material, there has been various posts here and other places in which things don't go right when people in a long-term relationship are opening themselves to outside sexual partners. Some due better than others. Some force such things on the other. The wife and I have talked with many other couples who are open or polyamorous. Some who have been around for decades but also some which end in divorce, but not always related to sex.

So "Challenges" is how actions and words can dictate what can happen. Talking more with the wife has been a help... but both of us having some health issues didn't help - Don't worry, none of it related to sex /STDs

Oh, I hate drama. Life is already fucking hard without drama!

[clitty]

(fixing some typos + a more info)
One of the guys, the older one with the live-in girlfriend went to bed fairly soon. Meanwhile the wife was up with Dave, and she seduced him – both of them are drunk and easy. In her words “Yes, I fucked Dave. I’ve been trying to figure out a time to tell you.” She was honestly sorry about it. I hugged her and said “I’m okay with it, being honest with me is more important. I was never jealous of sex” Another big hug, I then said “well, you kind of threw out the Monogamy rule out, eh?” she laughed.

In the past week or so since during this fight and since, she has seen two doctors and has some issues going on, can even be life-threatening, but everything is treatable with medication. These have been a source of many problems that we were not aware of. She’s feeling better already, but not her usual self but being aware of things dragging us down is a big help.

PART 3

The wife and I would talk everyday over our issues for a week, 30~60min here and there when we can. I talked to another poly couple, friends of ours – to see if we can have social, drink and talk time about their rough spots and our own situation. This is the day after we made-up. We also invited and wanted John to attend so we could be more open, etc – but he wasn’t able to attend.

She asked permission from me to ask Dave to join us as we’ll also have a Friday “movie” night at this place and Dave hasn’t seen the movie before. I told her I have reservation because Dave is college student who does seasonal work for the her company and has friends that works there. She says he’s more mature than he seems and I clear it with our host friends. Dave is a 135lb boy vs. my 210lb intimidating build. She tells me that he’s worried I’m going to take him somewhere to beat the shit out of him and leave him in a field. So I decided to have fun with him, but couldn’t find our toy rubber knife with the bade that slides into the handle. So I only fake-chewed him out for 15 seconds before I started laughing. Wife was in on this.

We all have a good time with the movie and other videos, getting drunk… we didn’t talk as much about open relationship issues as I wanted. Dave personally apologizes for his actions one of the times we are talking alone. I’m sorry he had to see a couple’s fight. As it turns out, he had recently broken up with a girl a week or so before and that compared to the fights he constantly had with her on a daily basis, that what my wife and I did seemed tame. After 5+ years of being together, that “tame” fight was the worse we experienced of the 3~4 fights we’ve ever had. I told him he’s a “kid” to us at age 21 and not be insulted by that, considering I’m 45 and the wife is 31. He’s a good looking young man, no fat and like many – he’s insecure and has difficulty asking girls out on a date. I would find out later that he’d only had sex a few times with his last girlfriend of about 5 months and has experience with only 3 girls (not including my wife).

As we left around 3am, my wife gets to our SUV and notices that I have moved the baby seat to the cargo area. She smiles, “really?” as Dave gets in one side and surprised to find the wife get inside the other. She quickly starts on him, I don’t remember what Dave said about her pulling his cock out and stroking it – but my response was “Does it look like I have a problem with her sucking your dick?” She then promptly engulfs his dick into her mouth. For most of the 15min drive back to our home, she is giving him head in the back seat of our SUV.

When we get home – I check to see if my parents are about – they are awake near the back, so I send wife and Dave upstairs to a spare bedroom and that I’ll be up ASAP, while I talk with the parents. I gauge when they are going to sleep (which is downstairs) and they assume my wife has gone to our bedroom to crash. They won’t go into our bedroom without our permission. Sadly, they end up being actively awake and don’t fall asleep until 6am!

When I finally make it upstairs and open the door – he’s on top pounding on my wife with her ankles by her head. He had already came twice in the past 2+ hours. She has an IUD and we’re all STD free – so she already got two loads in her pussy. I even manage to take some pics and videos with my phone without them noticing, not that I was hiding; even touching her with my camera in my hand, until I told them later. We’d go back and forth on her until 7am as I had brought a baby monitor with me and he was stirring. I was tired anyway. So I told him he can sleep till noon, but both had to stay upstairs until then – when I get them. I left the room with her sucking him off. The upstairs is dinky, with a small loft area overlooking the living room and hallway. My office is upstairs with the spare bedroom that shares a bath with the office. Me going up or coming down at any time is normal. My wife coming down with another guy would NOT be normal. My parents are staying in the baby room for another few weeks as the stairs are a safety hazard for very young and old – I knew they’d sleep past 1pm that Saturday. I got the baby his bottle and we both went to sleep.

I got up after 12:15, sent a text that I’m up and will be the look out for their exit. No response. I get up there at 12:30 and you can guess what they are doing. Damn, to be young, dumb and full of cum, again. I tell them to wrap it up quickly, wash off and go. He pulls out unfinished, shortly after. For a skinny and somewhat short guy – he’s got a decent size penis. I would later tell him that he should not be insecure because women would have nothing to complain about, which boosted his ego. He makes it out, she goes to our bathroom to clean up and get a bit more sleep. They had fallen asleep before 8 and woke up at 12 – when I told them too. Since I hasn’t texted them – they decided to kill time. Wife and I both end up falling asleep while talking. She thanked me for allowing it, for recommending that she could fuck him.

To be clear, I’ve know Dave for a few months before. There was no sexual tension before. As far as she was concerned – what had happened a few nights before was a drunken accident in which neither of them planning on doing “it” again… well, not likely anyway since she had gone to work mad at me still.

That same Saturday; we’ve decided to go out to one of our clubs. Its industrial / punk with little judgment. Even gays, lesbians and transgender people hang out there, will kiss/PDA in public with rarely an issue. My wife recommends Dave comes along, that he needs to expand, meet more people. I agreed.

She goes out in a mini black pleated skirt and small top. Dave’s never been to such a club but is fine as he is.
She rides in the front seat to the club which is on the other side of the city, about a 35 minute drive each way.
At this club, we are known as a married couple – but also kinksters like many of the others. I’ve even run into 6 girls there who are friends – that I had previous had sexual relations with (which my wife knows and is friends with) and do a bit of flirting. We both dance with my wife – same time and separate. So yes, people have seen my wife make out with other guys and gals – and now with Dave. There are some specific women my wife wants to eat out at this club, which we have been talking too. More for her than me.

My wife does want me to have a girl or two on the side – even thou four days earlier she was grilling my ass about the life style and that we should consider going monogamous. One of the girls there I talk to that night does want to have sex with me, FWB type. But alas, we have to go home – bar is closed. I don’t drive while plastered nor let others of unknown condition to drive – so the other two pile in the back. By the time I drive out of the parking lot and I’m waving goodbye to some people at the sidewalk – my wife is already straddling Dave. I know she doesn’t have panties on because they are in my pocket; I managed to take some selfies in which you can see her panties sticking out of my pocket and her on top Dave. She laughed when she saw them. I take some video of the action while driving. Sorry for the shitty pics, my phone is dying and will get a new one in a few months. I’ll post two I think. I don’t care much that they aren’t great- it’s the event I care about.

I take my time driving and for 40+ minutes they fucking or sucking. She looses her top with the first few minutes. A short time later, while she is riding him – I reach back and unclasp her bra… so only her mini-skirt is offering any cover… none when its around her waist.
I record about 8 minutes of videos, which the wife would later masturbate too. I am able to see pretty good between the seats, taking peeks when on the highway or at stop lights. They are pretty much dressed when we enter our neighborhood.

When we get home, I find the parents and the baby are up. I text the wife “NOT TO COME IN!” until I give the all clear. I do check on our SUV from our window and even in the low light from the street lamp, I can see our car rockin’. It would be about 15 minutes before I give the all clear, but there was accident that resulted broken glass in the baby room, so while the grandparents kept the baby away in the living room – I was cleaning up the mess, using a vacuum cleaner which would hide the noise of the front door opening.
I looked at the clock, from the time I parked the car, cleaned up – everyone settled in for the night – it had taken over an hour! I step into our dark bedroom, that has our color “party” fuck lights on – and for the first time ever, in our bed – is *MY wife* with a cock inside her and its not me. She’s getting fucked quietly but rapidly by this 21yr old. Taking a few minutes for me to undress, put some things away while they at it, even spend a bit of time recording a video, for which I know how to do better next time with the lighting situation.

While he’s banging away at her, I’m kissing her and playing with one of her tits and and WTF! – there is a knock on the *locked* door. I quickly grab a leg from each of them to STOP fucking. He finally freezes inside and I’m able to get up, throw on the boxers and poke my head out. It’s a short Q&A with mom about the next day and goodnight.

The bedroom layout that you can’t SEE anything from the door until you walk in and make a turn. We’ve had 18yr old relatives come in to use the bathroom (without knocking) and not know we’re BUSY.

By the time I got to the bed, he was slow humping her from behind and but soon going at it like a banshee, we continue this threesome for another 15minutes for a break. We’re spooning and she has me in her hand – but we all end up falling asleep about the same time. When we wake up mid-morning, its pretty much shower and go for the guest as we start our Sunday plans. As I cleaned out the car, I had to text Dave and the wife that they left cum stains on the seats, what assholes. I left one small stain to show them later.

This is what happened 5 days from a fight to this point. I started writing part one when the situation above starting coming into play on the 13th… not knowing how things were going to play out.

More adventures happened, it’ll take me a while to write it out.

Why am I doing this? I need to make right what I did wrong, to show trust in each other. It also gives me an idea on how to repair the relationship between Wife<>Myself<>John. I’m also stressed out from work, family life, parents, bills and medication to help with a leg injury is effecting my erections. Sucks, my head is horny – while the lower one takes a beating to wake up. Crying baby kills erections. I want my wife to not suffer, and I do get turned on anyway. The sex in the car thing + videos and picture taking is turning her on, we’re both finding new kinks we like.

Is this too much? Continue with the last 7 days? Photos: Side shot was 3 minutes after leaving the club. The other is a frame of video of her riding him like a cowgirl, taken 30 mins later and almost home. Much of the video shows too much face or too dark Sorry I cannot share the videos.

[nectcouple]

Absolutely not too much. Please continue! And thanks for the pics!

[clitty]

With all these hours of pounding, my wife’s little pussy needs a day or so of rest. During this time we discuss how our relationship is going and the friendship between myself and Dave. We’re trying to not make the mistakes of last time, which happened so recently and of course oddly jumped into. Our talks have strengthened and confirmed our long term goals together, including renewing our vows. We are going on vacation this weekend, just for the two of us to walk along the sea.

Unknown to the wife, I’ve started working on a contract which state various rules of etiquette and rules of engagement which ends up being two pages long and won’t be finish for a few more days as our interaction and my talks with Dave helps me to find faults. A contract is typically used in the BDSM lifestyle to outline the expectation of the parties involved and I used that as a basis for such rules. I’ll get back to this contract later.

So far, Dave has been having sex with my wife every other night or more since we almost broke up. My wife is enjoying sex and the trust I have been showing them. After a few days of rest we three go out on an after hours research project, that also allows us to stop at a few places for a drink. This starts around 11pm and some oral sex in the back. We head across town to check out another location for data gathering before looking for a bar to have drinks. But I’ve not been in this part of town for a few years and I’m not finding anything. We’re jamming to music when a cute girl in a car next to us give’s us some attention – which results in my wife pulling her shorts down and mooning her. We follow them to a bar that is open late on Tues. We chat with the couple a bit and pretty much hang by ourselves. The young woman from the car point out to me that Dave is making out with my wife. I shrugged and say “They work together”. She is not cool with it and, oh well – she’s not my problem - not like I wanna fuck her.. We finish our game of pool and head out, the girl’s boyfriend was a bit rude as we walk out the door with a friendly wave from me, we’re off to check on one last location. A bit of sex happens in the back, but at this 20 story high-rise building – there are empty offices for which we get to play while overlooking the city at night for about 30 minutes before we head back home. We chat for the return ride and drop off Dave, but he does manage to get 10 mins of sex before then.

The next night, its just me and Dave as the wife is tired and stays at home. We talk for over two hours which is where I learn the most about him. I gave him recommendation for school and relationships. About not being insecure with girls. This is where I talk to him about ego and respect. I pointed out to him that in the past 7+ days, he had more sex with my wife (than I have with her) in the past month due to her period, our schedules, fight and my own issues. Hell, Dave has had more sex in that week than he has all year with anyone else. He came about 15 times inside her or on her by then, while I’ve only done it twice. I tell him “do I seem jealous or upset at you fucking my wife?” that stroked his ego – and the point was to show understanding of the situation and that my ego isn’t hurt. That he’ll have no problem pleasing any young woman with 2~4 hours of fucking abilities. I ended the night letting him know I was working on some rules so that we can continue giving my loving wife a good time.

Its now the next night, Fri the 18th. Dave is over at our home early evening – I tell my parents he’s going to hang with us when we go out. While doing normal household things – my wife tells me “you know, we should make a up a contract or something soon”, which I told her that I had just finished and if she wanted to read now. She really didn’t know I was working on it and it excited her. She quickly read the contract, then we showed it to Dave before I printed it out. I went over it verbally with them, but it was getting late and we had to get to the dance club – so I brought it with us to sign later. We drink, we dance, we drink some more – she takes off his shirt on the dance floor as we three danced together. This isn’t our main club – so we didn’t run into anyone we knew. About an hour before we left – the wife takes her thong off and puts it over his head and around his neck – it looks kind of like an accessory Nobody cared or noticed at the club, hell I didn’t either at first - I had only told her to take it off and assumed she put it in her purse.

On the four block walk to our car, he had to piss and there were port-a-pods – so the wife held his dick while he peed, maybe 1-2 people noticed since the door was open. As we were getting on the road, I get a text from a woman of a couple we want to play with – they happen to be at the same club we just left, having missed each other for the 30 minutes we were there at the same time! ARGH! That would most likely have turned into a 5-some as my wife made it clear to me she wants to fuck her.

... to be continued.

[clitty]

Fun for the end of September.

Other than heavy petting, fingers and oral – no intercourse in the back. The wife wore a very nice dress that is not easy to take off, especially in the back of an SUV. We went to Dave’s place since his room-mate is out for the weekend. With everyone naked and doing oral on the wife or she on us; the wife wanted me to get something from a 7-11 type store. Fine, but I remembered the contract didn’t get signed. I said they couldn’t have sex until we all signed it… when I get back as I wanted to tease them. That put them on hold for 15 minutes in which the most he was allowed to do was eat her out. We signed the paper, had a round of drinks and spent the remaining hours of night doing various things to the woman I love.

What’s in the contract? In short, it’s a 3 month trial with the option for 1 year.
They can have sex with or without me and don’t require my permission nor can I tell her "no sex" with Dave – but I must be notified before, during or after a sex time with him. I included a rule in which I wasn’t allowed to cancel the contract (I’m making up for mistakes last time) which the wife liked. It outlined what was allowed and not allowed as well as not interfering with my family household along with the ability to add amendments. I put pretty much all the power into my wife’s hands.

Now before you get ahead of yourselves, THIS IS NOT a cuckold contract/fetish. Each their own, but I am into being involved sexually in 3-4somes MFM / FMF, etc. My wife has eyed a girl or two to try and hook me/us up with as my time with work and such makes it rather difficult for me. Face women, easier for women to get dick than for us guys to get pussy. We have no desire to lick my penis in a cage, with no disrespect for those that do.
I do get off on her getting her tight pussy pounded from views I can’t see IF I’M the one who is having sex with her. And I do get off on her having a bit of power to do this as we both are learning to expand our kinky ways.

As of this writing, we went one more time together to the first club. One reason was to meet up with the couple we missed and build a relationship with them. The ride home was the usual fun of sex in the back seat but we were all hungry when we got back to our side of town. The two fuckers in back want Jack in the Box tacos, typical drunk junk food we all KNOW we eat at 2~5am! So I order 6 tacos for $3 at the drive-thru menu while she’s on top. I come around the bend and see a car already at the window so I hang back by 4 car lengths. A car comes up behind us soon and by that time, my wife is up against the passenger door in a squat type position while Dave is fucking into her slowly but hard, I’m sure the folks in the car behind us noticed the rocking.

Only thing I can see from my drivers side is his back side and her lower legs, as her knees are up by her shoulders and her feet dangling. **oh well** I pull up to the window, after all its 3am and what fast-food guy is going to be upset to see a sex show for free. But its a young woman running the window, about 18~20 years old. Cute. I hand her money and wait as she makes change and gives us our food and the water I asked for when I gave her cash. She didn’t blush, wasn’t rude or anything - but looking back, I think it was a poker face.

You kind of know the view a drive-thru window has, so I don’t see how she didn’t get a show. If it was a guy I might have made sure he knew. By the time we hit the road, they were both at it hard. We talked about it, wife was enjoying the fuck itself, to really care but was turned on by something we DID, that was never done before.

So now, we have a bucket list for her and Dave to fuck when going through a late night Taco Bell, Taco Cabana, etc...

Over the many days since part 3, we’ve continued to do thrill sex with the car and looking for safe ideas and places to do more. As a friend pointed out - our police cars have night vision and infrared - so we can’t be careless.

One of our notable drives involved us driving along the service road as we changed highways, I ended up along side a state DOT truck, a large on in which I can look up and see both of the passenger and driver LOOKING at me and into the back of my SUV - with smiles as they got a free show. I drove slower than usual to each intersection and waited for the light, so they got 3 stop lights worth of fun before we each went our different ways. The wife was on top, so could easily make out a pale petite woman riding a guy since she was completely nude they saw her butt up to the back of her head. They never stopped fucking, but they KNEW a big truck was next to us!

We are starting to talk about sex games, challenges, bets and dares. Like can she make him cum with a blowjob before we reach a destination, but a nearby police car required me to cancel that. Another is one of the times we played billiards, I came up with a challenge for them: Loser gets anal - as I told Dave that the wife has a strap on (not for me). Wife lost that one, and yep. I watched as she got reamed a bit. This is actually quite new for both of us as John did it to her over a month ago and we’ve done it once ourselves as she is still getting used to it. She been doing a finger for a while in her butt that has been turning her on after all these years. It won’t be a regular thing, but more challenges for that area is likely to happen, especially since she does want to try DP - but we’ll see how she progresses - its her call and it must be fun for her.

We’ve had some threesomes and sleep overs. We’re planning on doing something during the day so I can video record better video of her getting banged by Dave from various positions and angles. I’ll direct a bit so I can record the details as she loves watching cock sliding in and out of her body.

Just the two of us are going on vacation this weekend, she’s paying for it and we’ll be making plans on what we can or should do during the road trip and the hotel. Playing with others is not the goal. Dave will have blue balls for a while.

[ModelT-MsDollie]

Thanks clitty for the detailed reports. This shows the things that can happen and how disagrements can be worked out. For us there is not much of an age difference and we mostly grew up teaching each other about sex.
Our biggest fear of swapping and being swingers was the fact that so many end up divorcing and some of the swingers hooking up.
My wife would never do any of it for years so maybe that helped keep us together. Now that she finally fucks other men we are to old to think about divorce and I enjoy watching her and her special friends together. So far I have been there to watch closely but feel if she wants to go off someplace for a day or so I will know what happened and have nothing to worry about.
We are happy for you and your wife. It's not for everyone to share the love of our lives but if we truly love them we want them to have a great time whatever they do.

[clitty]

Thanks.

Its a legitimate concern... for ANYONE. Hence I posted the ugly with the fun (at least another of us has had issues) - to help others.

Had a talk with Dave last night, he was being very respectful to me as we had an honest talk. I told him that the wife and I have some things to work out, but it has nothing to do with him. He's a good kid who can fuck for hours... She's wearing him out.

[clitty]

I thought I had posted this already.

It was a short vacation, we both had work to do and it involved us driving hundreds of miles to the coast. Its been years since either of us has ever had a vacation... so it was quite tiresome too.

We enjoyed the coast, its been a long time since I've seen so much water... I always consider moving, but I'm not a fan of hurricanes. We were too rushed and tired to do anything kinky in the car.

We drank a lot more than usual, we went out dancing, even going to a rave. So yeah, we even passed the fuck out from being tired drunk. So not as much sex as we had hoped and planned. We had quite a bit of fun being social, the lights, music, etc.

Some stand outs: One of the nights we were having sex, or before anyway. With our window facing kind of towards the sea and the parking lot on our 4th floor room, the window curtains were open. Wife turns on the lights and stands by the window sometimes, and around the room, then sometimes on me. It was very late, but even I notice a few people coming in - that didn't happen to look up. Oh well... she wanted them to look up. This was a first time for HER to do this and on her own, quite cool. I was more nervous than she was as it was a rather small hotel and our room was on the very end of the building, so not hard to find our room.

On another night, after dancing at about 3am, we walked onto the beach with our clothes and she went out onto a concrete water break. I told her to not go far, but she disappeared into the darkness, I can barely see her iphone and she texted me that she's at the end. We didn't go to this part of the beach during the day so we didn't know what it looked like. This break is about 20" across, about a foot above the water - but some waves are right on it, so the top is WET. When she comes back a few minutes later, she tells me I SHOULD do it. We're both drunk and somewhat stupid - but sure. I'm wearing my shoes too and like her, I went out with my phone. I'm more than double her weight and size and it takes me over a minute to make it to end, which is about 150+ feet from shore, I have no idea how deep it is. The end has a small L-bend to it, about 4 feet. No way to lay down and a bit nervous for me to turn around. But its almost pitch black and not much moon. It was great, I couldn't hear the city, just the water. I take some pics and text her back - I can barely see her on the beach. From my eyes, she looked about half an inch tall, a moving stick. Could not make our her arms.

She texts me that shes coming out, which bothers me as having one of us on shore allows the ability to call for help. I can't really see her until she's halfway out. We chat, we passionately kiss. Its a great view of the city and we can't be seen. She carefully gets on her knees and gives me a blow job. That's love. We walk back safely to the beach, get to our room and fuck like rabbits.

[clitty]

Hey folks. I've been pretty much gone for a while. Not happy times.
Drama issues has happened. Not so much of what I've posted here, but other issues that has effected our marriage for the worse.

COMMUNICATION!

We've been talking about the problems we've been having, but not about HOW to actually fix those problems.
My postings here is pretty much done, doesn't matter if we survive or not. I don't know.
A friend is helping us sort our differences and how to resolve them.

My addiction to online video games, blogging and a few other things are part of the problem.
So I told her today, I'm done. I've shut down my blogging habbits, cold turkey. I've deleted games I've played for 10 years.

We are likely to go monogamous as well. I do better at open relationships than she does (mentally). But we haven't gotten to that point. I'm just trying to save what I have for our toddler, rebuild what has been broken.

Hopefully she'll give me that chance.

PS: I may still swing by... but my activity will be very limited, if anything.