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Old 08-31-2008, 12:30 AM
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Found a nice sequence that could lead up to a cfnf fight.
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There seems to be a Japanese fetish involving a group of girls ganging up, stripping and totally humiliating another female. I really don't know whether this is limited to the Japanese, but I have seen scenes of this nature only in Japanese films and pics.

Sorry if the first four pics are not entirely cfnf, but the idea of a pack of girls thoroughly ganging up on a hapless nude victim is clearly illustrated.
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More of the what would appear to be Japanese fetish.

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Those are great pics. And, yes, you are right, Helen, the Japanese have been making films for quite some time involving strip fighting, where one woman is either brutally attacked by a gang of women or loses a one-on-one strip match vs. another woman then is ****d by a group of men.

(Both women, in effect agree to those terms beforehand, so I don’t think a crime is being videotaped. In fact, I reckon that if one of the girls is really horny and loves the fantasy of being gang ****d, she probably intentionally loses her clothes and the fight.)

Those type of films are not quite my cup of tea because in most of them, all of the women at some point end up nude or semi-nude. So really, it turns into a nude vs. nude match – the same stuff the industry has been offering for years. There’s plenty of that out there.

In the one-on-one strip matches I have seen, both women lose most of their clothing. While the loser winds up nude, the winner also winds up near-nude. And the fights are pretty much even, not one-sided, until the end. They really don’t fit the spirit of one-sided CFNF ENF fighting.

Although some of your still photos depict what appears to be CFNF fighting by capturing a moment in time, in the end these films tend to turn out to be simply semi-nude vs. nude **** videos. To some that’s fantastic. Me, not so much.

Nevertheless, thanks for posting those photos. You are really helping to keep this thread alive Helen with those type of photos which definitely depict ENF scenarios that are on subject with this message board.
As for your previous post of criterior for a CFNF match, I agree with your observations, except the first point and part of the third one.

In the first point you say the two women have to be good looking and sexy.

While that is definitly one great scenario, I can see this fantasy working with a number of other scenarios that don’t always involve women with supermodel/actress good looks. Here are a few for you to consider:

 A gorgeous, snooty 18-year-old popular girl picks on a Plain Jane-type schoolmate who, after taking more verbal abuse than anyone is expected to endure, beats and strips the Barbie doll cheerleader in an empty classroom after school. The plain girl, dressed in a schoolgirl uniform – white longsleve shirt and plaid skirt and saddle shoes and kneehigh white socks -- marches her nude and barefoot foe to the crowded boys’ locker room after football practice and tosses the curvy teen in to meet her fate.

 A man’s tall, gorgeous athletic mistress goes to the home of her rival and finds the frumpy but young housewife wearing only a robe and slippers with curlers in her hair. The homewrecker, dressed in a pullover shirt, hip-hugging jeans and cowboy boots, tells the housewife she is stealing her man and there is nothing she can do about it. Enraged, the not-so-attractive housewife attacks but soon is left only in her ugly curlers. The fully clothed mistress then chases the naked woman through her large house. The housewife is screaming, her sagging boobs bouncing wildly, as she gets to a bathroom and locks herself in. She cowers in the corner near the toilet as the mistress picks the lock and gets in. The mistress repeatedly dunks the wife’s head, now void of most of the curlers, into the toilet and flushes. The mistress grabs the housewife by her thick, untrimmed pubic bush and drags the naked, screaming gal to her car as neighbors look on in shock. The mistress drives her beaten and begging rival to the busiest intersection of the city then kicks her out to run starkers in the streets. The triumphant tart then drives to the husband’s place of work to proudly boast of her victory.

 An aging and somewhat hardened housewife dons a conservative one-piece swimsuit and goes to the pool at her apartment complex to find, among a large crowd of people, her husband putting suntan lotion on a gorgeous babe in a skimpy thong bikini. The housewife argues with her husband for flirting with a hussy until the pretty blond tells her to leave the guy alone – he wasn’t doing anything wrong. The salt-and-pepper-haired 50-year-old housewife tells the woman half her age to stay out of this. The blond tells her to go f herself. A one-sided fight follows as the housewife beats, strips and spanks the hot girl’s bare ass as the adult crowd wildly encourages her on. After blistring the gal’s butt, the victorious woman tosses her into the pool and the chlorine stings her seriously reddened behind. The housewife then “helps” the nude young woman out of the pool, lifting her by her big bubblegum-pink nipples, then drags her back to her apartment to punish her private parts in private.

Besides those scenarios, I also love inter-racial encounters of the CFNF kind. My favorite is a black woman – attractive or unattractive – in a white bikini taking on a drop-dead gorgeous blond in a black bikini. Both are barefooted.

To make what would be a long and totally erotic story short, the black girl winds up dancing in her white bikini, holding the white gal’s tattered black swimsuit/trophy above her head as the naked, beaten blond lies moaning in defeat beneath her ebony conquerer. The blond is then ordered to kiss the pinkish soles of her opponent’s rather large feet and admit that blacks are superior to whites.

In all of my black vs. white fantasies, the dark-skinned girl emerges victorious every time. I’m a white male, but that’s just how I like those type of matches to end.

In your third point, Helen, you say the crowd should be mostly the winner’s friends, yet you say the loser should be humiliated in front of people she knows.

I agree with the second part of that. But I think it is far more erotic if the crowd is evenly divided or has more of the loser’s friends and family in it.

That way, the loser is even more humiliated when she realizes that nearly everyone she knows or everyone who is important to her sees her at her absolute humiliatingly worst.

One point you did not touch upon – and one that is a pet peeve of mine – is that the matches should NOT end with the two combatants becoming “real good friends” – that is a lesbian encounter.

Although I have nothing against the lesbian lifestyle, I don’t want my CFNF wrestling fantasy – or any fight video, for that matter -- to end with both gals tongue-kissing. Yet, some (obviously male) producers of these type of films end their matches with a lovely girl-on-girl sixty-nine.

If I wanted to buy a lesbian video, I’d buy a lesbian video. Period.

And while I agree there sometimes is a fine line between love and hate, I think a good catfight – especially a one-sided match with a clear-cut clothed winner and naked loser – does not need to end with a make up/ makeout scene.

I can’t imagine two women who really hate each other – remember, that’s the premise for the catfight -- falling in love as they torture each other’s most sensitive parts. It doesn’t make sense unless, of course. the wrestling match was just a foreplay vehicle to get to the lovemaking.

(For example, Helen, do you see any circumstances where your Helen and Luisa characters would put their hatred aside to share a moment of sweet lovemaking? I don’t think so because their rivalry is too strong for either of them to even think tender thoughts of one another, that is unless you consider Luisa brutally r**ing Helen as a tender Hallmark moment. Even in situations where you could have had a dominant Luisa make love to a subserviant Helen you instead wrote about Luisa taking that golden opportunity to pluck out all of Helen’s pubic hairs. As a reader, I have to admit that was much more satisfying to me than a kiss.)

I can however, picture a victorious woman, to further humiliate her naked opponent, ass-r**ing her victim with a strapon – the trademark ending to all of the Ultimate Surrender video company’s nude vs. nude wrestling videos. Using sex as a weapon of degradation works in these type of scenarios.

Again, while it works for some when two women square off as enemies then for no clear-cut reason end up as gentle, caring lovers, it is not what the one-sided CFNF wrestling genre – or FF wrestling videos in general – is all about.

(NOTE: I apologize to the administrators of this board. I did not know that using the word r*** was not permitted when talking about that form of assault. I am sorry if I offended anyone with the two forms of the word late in my posting that got by and have since edited this story to self-censor the word.)

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Old 08-31-2008, 03:02 PM
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FV 99 Festelle 'Card Fight' has a great cfnf scene in the first few mins when 1 fully clothed woman strips another

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Old 08-31-2008, 04:53 PM
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Great scenarios Cigar4u. I like the idea of the gorgeous, snooty, stuck-up 18-year-old popular girl picking on the Plain Jane-type (if it's in a school or public setting) or being rude to an older housewife-type if it's any non-school public setting. Whatever the scenario, the snooty girl ends up getting stripped completely naked (shoes and all), with her triumphant adversary destroying or taking all the snooty girls clothes. Either way, snooty girl ends up totally nude in a very public place and has to get herself out of her humiliating ENF situation. Stories, photos and/or videos welcome.
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Old 09-01-2008, 05:56 AM
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Hi Cigar!

Thanks for confirming that there is indeed a Japanese fetish for brutal girl on girl action. I don't know, but from what I have observed so far, they seem to have a lot of material depicting cruelty to women in sexual ways. I've seen a lot of bondage films wherein the women are tied up like pretzels in thick ropes and unmercifully beaten. I've also viewed realistic brutal gang ****s where the poor woman is ultimately given a bukkake shower by the guys. Things not often seen in western films.

I'm sorry to find out that most Japanese one on one girl actions end up as being nfnf. I guess the producers find showing two nude females together would rake in better profits than having only one bare her all. However come to think of it, since producers have to pay actresses more if they are made to strip nude on film, wouldn't they be able to save a lot if only one of the actresses has to strip and the other remains fully clothed. Just a thought.

Glad you liked the pics posted. I wish I had the full set of the last one showing a group of school girls besetting one girl, culminating in her being "bagged" in the end. Pretty intense if you ask me. I don't think this is a case where the other girls end up stripping nude also, like in most films, as you say. A film I am sure we both would enjoy.

As for my criteria for a good cfnf catfight, I'm sorry if I gave the impression that both catfighters should have drop dead, super model looks. No. For me, it is sufficient that both be attractive and pleasing to look at, but with the winner a little prettier, bigger and better built than the loser. I don't know, but I seem to have this thing for the one who loses to start the fight already intimidated by the other woman. Even before the first blow is struck, the loser is already at a psychological disadvantage of her foe as her feeling of inferiority turns out to reality as she is humiliated no end in the fight. It would also help if the winner proves to be a cocky, loudmouth biotch, who exudes all the confidence in the world as she divests her opponent of all her clothes.

I think thats why I like your situation of the mistress confronting the housewife. She ibefore the fight ends. s young, athletic, cocky and better looking than the frumpy wife. Although in my case I would have the wife be pretty also but a lot more conservative looking catholic girl than the hot girlfriend. The robe is ok but I'd lose the curlers. I hate that stuff. On second thought she could have curlers but they'd have to go before the fight ends. The winner could try ramming one of them inside the loser's p**y during the fight or even up her a**. Mean aren't I.

As for the crowd, I'm sorry if I sounded inconsistent when I said the crowd must all be rooting for the winner, and then said it would embarrass the loser most if she gets stripped in front of her friends. What I really meant was that the fight should take place in front of an audience composed of mutual friends of the combatants, but for some reason all are rooting for the winner and none for the loser. Well I guess it would be ok for the loser to have some supporters in the crowd, but they should not in anyway interfere in the festivities.

I agree with your observation that under no circumstances should the combatants end the fight in an intimate girl on girl action. That is VERBOTEN. It is so unrealistic and fake. Imagine having two girls litterally tearing each other apart, well actually only one of them will be doing the tearing, and the next minute both are cuddling together doing footsies. Yuck.

Sexual domination,however, is another story. I think it would be an added bonus for cfnf action to end with the winner sexually dominating the loser, with her fingers, any foreign object or even the ubiquitous strap on. For one, it would definitely add to the loser's sense of humiliation that not only had she lost all her clothing to the winner, but now had to surrender her most intimate body parts to the winner, to do with as she please. Second, by having the winner sexually dominate the loser after the match, this would extend the loser's suffering more as her ordeal would still not be over even after the match.

To abbycakes and colis5, welcome aboard.

Hey Frrio you've been silent some. What's up. You still haven't spilled your favorite scenario.
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Hey sorry im here..

Whats my fav cfnf scenario? I agree with alot of both yours and cigars points above. Mine would have to take place in a very public place..at the moment my favourite would be the typical workplace situation. Perhaps all women are suited out in their business attire..you know smart blouse / grey / black trousers or skirt and tights. Now Im for al sorts of different combinations of females. I absolutley love a young blonde vs a young blonde ...or perhaps a young brunette vs a young blonde. That said I do love the thought of Older vs Younger female or even perhaps Younger humilaiting an Older Woman. Heres a little flavour of what right now I would like to see..

But for the purposes of this i'll choose two middle aged milfs. Ones Brunette and quite a bit bigger than her counterpart who is quite a bit smaller in build with Blonde hair. The blonde haired women keeps her self to her self around the workplace and is a sensible hardworker/ never puts a foot wrong and just goes about her business. The bigger Brunette however is alot more outgoing, likes to 'gob' and show off in front of others. Now which way does it go? Sometimes I'd say the quiter Blonde should come out of her shell and humiliate the Brunette. But again for added realism I quite like the idea of the Brunette living up to her usual self, showing the Blonde up in front of everyone.

Lets see, the Blondes going about her business and bends down to file away some documents. Doing so she accidently exposes a little ass cleavage. The brunette walking past notices this. Normally, she would shout it out so everyone could here..however this time, she bites her lip. She looks around and glances two colleagues looking in her direction ( one male, one female. ) The blonde gets up and stores away a document on the top shelf..Just as the Brunette thought she had missed her chance, the Blonde again crouches down, exposing the tip of her ass cleavage. This time, with the two colleagues in sight, the Brunette pulls a very sarcastically shocked look. ( A gasping sort of expression. ) She points at the Blonde, before pulling a more serious face, pretending to be impressed with what shes seen. The brunette then breaks into a teasing grin before sucking her pen walking off. The two colleagues continue to stare, but feel a little dissapointed that the Brunette didnt show the Blonde up publically.

Later on, The male eager to not let the siutation die out, emails the Brunette, making reference to the Blonde, making reference to how stupid she looked. The Brunette jokingly agrees. The conversation goes on, before the male plucks up enough courage to suggest to the Brunette that she should have shown her up completley. The Brunettes reponse sets a beat going with the male, as she suggestes " Maybe I'll get the chance to later!"

The day goes on and most staff leave for Home. The Brunette, herself a little dissapointed, thinking she might have missed the oppertunity to show her up, catches the Blonde leaving for the workplace Gym. The brunette suggests to her two colleagues that they follow her. On leaving the office, the Brunette, winks towards the young male colleague ' I know where she is. ' This again sets the beat going for the young colleague. The Brunette stops by the Gym door ( which is slightly ajar ) and the three ( Brunette and two colleagues ) begin to talk openly. As the Blonde catches their eye, the Brunette begings to purposley snigger. The Blonde, feeling a little uneasy carries on with her work out, and begins to climb the wall.

As shes so far up she senses the Brunette entering the room. " Hey..." The Brunette shouts sarcastically. Politley the Blonde acknowledges her. The two engage in coversation with the Blonde being quite polite, with the Brunette being her usual gobby self. The Brunette then goes for the sucker punch. " Oh and by the way, bring some pants that fit tommorrow..dont want to be seeing our plumbers butt again!" She then winks at her male colleague. The Blonde goes red with horror , and suspends her climbing. Sensing the Blondes uneasy state, the Brunette continues to mock, stating ' it wasnt all that bad.' The Blonde tells the Brunette to be quiet, however she's in no mood to quit any time soon, and thrives off winding her up, suggesting that the whole office saw!

The Blonde loses her cool, and tells the Brunette to f**k off, as she begins to climb down. Thats when the Brunette too loses it. She grabs the waistband of the Blondes gym shorts and yanks them down, pulling the Blonde off the wall with her. She screams as lands on the floor, shorts around knees, sitting on her panties. The three colleagues erupt with laughter. Too see a grown women, depants another was completleyh hilarious and hot. Immediatley the Blonde goes to reach for her shorts. However much to the delight of the two onlookers, the Brunettes momentum takes ahold, and she too grabs for the shorts. " Nnnooo!" The Blonde yelps, as shes dragged across the carpet floor, with her panties slowly coming down. She kicks and kicks, eventually kicking the Brunette in the face, breaking free. Jumping up, she pulls her shorts up before running into the changing room. Not to let this deter her, the Brunette sorts her hair out, and nods her head shouting ' No you dont' With this, the Brunette stalks the Blonde into the changing room. She uses a fire extinguisher to hold the door open before disapperaing out of view. The two colleagues listen on in anticipation as the two women get into a catfight. Cries of ' No Please ' can be heard as the Brunette slowly but surely re-appears in view. She has the Blonde on the floor, who is minues her top, and bra! The two colleagues get a glimpse of her bare back, before again she manages to escape. Again the Brunette follows, and after another brawl they re-appear this time with her panies around her ankles the Blonde is dragged along the floor. " You cant she screams!" The Brunette laughs as she pulls the completley naked Blonde out of the door way. She gasps in horror and tries to cover every inch of her body as desperatley tries re-enetring the locker room. The Brunette however is much to powerfulll, and with one hand full of hair, she shuts the locker room door with the other. Slap after raining slap lands on the Blondes ass. The brunette pulls and yanks at her hair as she drags the Blonde to the nearby fire exit. She begs and cries for mercy, realising shes powerless to do anything but accept shes being taken outside...you want to add the final bit??

Again the whole of that was written of the top of my head, and each little bit made up as i went along. Note done properly and more quotes/names etc would be added. Again im sorry not got round to reading your material, but I will as and when I get round to it.

Regarding the Japanese clips, they certainly do seem to be into this stripping of girls stuff. There is actually a clip of a student being tied up to a chair and stripped by loads of clothed female students. The quality was kinda poor, but anyone remember seeing it? I think but I may be wrong she was also gagged which would explain the worried look.

Still waiting on the Candis Humilaition clip, hopefully arrive later this week!

Tell you what else im a fan of. Where a female accidenaly embarress's another female on mainstream tv...The Pic of the Gladiator hanging onto the contestants pants on Hang tough, always sets my rocks going. How embarresing!

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Hi Frrio!

Great scene. Lets see, she could be dragged outside to a nearby pub where all the other co-workers are unwinding. She is dragged by the brunette by her nipples while the two others follow after gathering all the blonde's clothes. Once in the pub the naked and cowering blonde is presented to her colleagues by the smug brunette, who thereupon sexually dominates the blonde in front of everyone. The blonde is not given her clothes back and must escape the place still nude and make her way home, miles away.

Hey take your time Frrio, the stories are not going anywhere.

Hey Cigar, here's A pic that goes completely against the norm.
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