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[abobql]

Most of what I'd want to say has already been covered.

I think the key thing is that we believe that she didn't want to be seen nude and is embarassed about it. I know thats obvious, but it means:
-the situation can't be too unreal
-the acting has to be good
-she has to look like a "normal woman" - if she has fake tits or is shaved I think "stripper/porn actress/exhibitionist" and suspension of disbelief is pretty much impossible

As others have said the intensity of her embarasment/upset is important. Not enough will leave us bored. As for too much, well I want to feel turned on, not sympathetic with her or angry at her tormentors.

How explicit it is matters too. Personally I want full frontal nudity, but I don't want to see inside her as it makes suspension of disbelief hard and anyway genitals (male or female) look kind of ridiculous. If you want to appeal to those who want something more explicit then perhaps a shot that is too brief to be seen properly without hitting the pause button is the way to go.

[lindacox13]

I just thought I would add a woman's point of view on this.
Personally I enjoy seeing movies where girls lose their clothes or are put in embarrassing situations, because I imagine myself in that situation and often find it sexy. The thought of losing my clothes for example in front of the guys I work with is one I would not like to happen - but it is a great fantasy I often have. Suddenly being naked in the street or in a public place is another turn on - BUT - I would draw the line where the girl is distressed or appears to be forced into a sexual situation where she is not happy.
Remember also that until the film gets made I am happy to take on ideas for photo shots for this board and you can see me at https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/showthread.php?t=27976

[indraguy]

Somebody mentioned a Zapped clone video called "Ain't it Cool" in an earlier post. I have never heard of that and in doing a little web searching was not finding much. Could somebody post some more information on where that video can be found? Is it good?

[Fango]

Originally Posted by indraguy

Somebody mentioned a Zapped clone video called "Ain't it Cool" in an earlier post. I have never heard of that and in doing a little web searching was not finding much. Could somebody post some more information on where that video can be found? Is it good?

I think you're thinking of a movie called "Pretty Cool". I posted some videos of it here:

https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/showthread.php?t=20184

Fango

[homerbf]

My $0.02 (and ideas):

1) For best "talent" you have to do it without sex. It will be much easier getting good "talent" if it is made clear that it is only nudity and no sex. And legal reasons too... once you get into the definitions of "pornography" and sex you're dealing with a whole different can of worms. Example - you can sell videos of "Nude Golf/Tennis/Yoga/Aerobics/Slumber Party/(name your activity)" on eBay, but you can't sell anything "hardcore".

B) A good place to get good, cheap, willing talent is colleges and universities. I've heard of good results for nude models by putting up ads in the art & dance departments. People in those areas tend to be a little more liberal with their bodies and their thoughts of nudity (plenty of nudity in art, nude painting/drawing classes, and dance costumes these days don't cover much at all so they're used to showing skin). Plus, being in college, they are always in need of money (especially later in the year but before spring break). They are also more likely to be genuine in their responses/"acting" than a professional actress/model because they haven't done it before.

3) Whomever mentioned that you have to cover all the possibilities in the release is right on. I think if you let them know there will be nudity at some point but surprise them before they expect it, then you can get a genuine response. Better yet, go through all of the possibilities and ask them if there's any of them that they are uncomfortable with. That way you know what to avoid with each one individually and yet they don't know exactly which ones they will have to do (but have given implied consent because they didn't say they were uncomfortable with those).

4) A good resource is Abbywinters.com - she has done a masterful job of using young, natural models (most are 18-23) that are "real girls" and not professional models/actresses. She also has several "shoots" where the models strip each other in public. Maybe contact her for ideas on how she does it... and offer in return a link to her website from yours.

5) I'd be careful about releasing some vids to the public for free as downloads. When people do that they end up on P2P networks and spread for free - then everyone has it and no one wants to buy it. The technology is available where people can view "trailers" on a website without being able to download it.

6) Ideas:
- the old reliable "Strip Poker" party
- the "sorority initiation"
- the rival girls trying to get each other back (pantsing, dropping towels, anything to get guys to see the other girl naked)

Hope this helps.

[warney59]

Thanks for all the comments and ideas. This seems to be moving forward a little now, so as long as Alex is okay with this thread please keep opinions coming. I will let you all know what stage we are at and when you can expect to see something as we get the details together. In the mean time all these posts really help to get a feel of what people want, and we appreciate that!

[Ford]

I agree with most of what's been said here, but I'd like to put a cautionary case about having too much reality. The one kind of ENF clip that's pretty easy to get hold of here is the "spring break" type thing with some bird having her bikini top pulled off after chugging one too many beers.

I think the best vids have some artifice about them. The girl should be acting embarrassed and awkward and the situation should build this embarrassment and awkwardness until the final denouement, as it were. If I were making such a film, I'd look to SirSeph's work for inspiration (the towel drop clip in the video forum is an absolute classic) and the stories and cartoons of Morph and Biker on Yahoo groups (I have the addys if you don't already). I agree with the comments about "everyday" clothing (although I'd put in a special plea for a business suit, or some kind of uniform). The lingerie should be sexy, without being a full-on leather basque, or some kind of frou-frou sub-Dynasty nightmare.

I remember reading a couple of stories on the old Superheroine Undone site. One was called Brenda's Button Dress, in which a woman attends a party on a hot, sticky day in a dress held together by many buttons, but sewn up accidentally with water soluble thread by her tailor. The other story had a similar theme, where a pushy reporter attends a major gathering with a suit that has been put together with the same thread. In both stories, the gradual disintegration of the garments, and the desperate attempts of the women in them to hold them together was completely delicious - and of course there was a final exposure before a crowd of onlookers followed by a dash away tottering on heels, which by this point was the only thing they had left on.

Anyhoo, good luck with it. Any ENF film is a good ENF film from my point of view

[wixzer2000]

For one example, you could maybe use some of the Jenny (and other similar) stories and make a movie out of that.
But then I don't know about the copyright on those stories..
Anyways, just an idea, I bet you could come up with something better

[uncle zed]

Ignorant of how movies are really made, this thread has been more of an education than I expected. I always wondered why no one just offered two to three college drama majors some cash to play strip poker, with a generous bonus for the winner. The other costs involved explains quite a bit.

I would suggest a reality approach like I mentioned above for a loose feel, and the real chance of catching a first time nude on film. If you are going for the heavily scripted approach, I would like to see people exposed because of blackmail, and stripping them in front of people the character knows always sweetens the plot.

Speaking as an average joe who has been a member for quite some time but rarely posted, this idea intrigues me. If it was done well, and you could suspend my disbelief, I would probably spend far too much of my hard earned money for films like this.

[kopema]

Originally Posted by a9pia

Finally, I think the trick is to keep it light-hearted and avoid mean-spiritedness (another reason to steer clear of realism in these scenarios), while at the same time not being afraid to the let the scene linger on the nudity and moment of the exposure. After all many of the best scenes of this type (as in Zapped, Jane etc...) are let down ultimately by being too brief or non-nude so as not to alientate the mainstream audience - a problem we don't have here. Extending the embarassment by compelling the girl (through some suitably contrived set of reasons) to stick around while still naked or semi-naked would achieve this - and would be especially funny/ erotic if everyone is vocally trying to make light of her situation or pretending to ignore it while she cringes in embarassment..

A better way to look at it is to take the opposite approach. Ask yourself this question, name one ENF scene where you EVER thought to yourself:

1. "That sucked -- I've never seen that happen in real life;"
2. "No woman would could possibly be THAT naive;"
3. "Oh, come on, she should be used to it by now;"
4. "Gosh, she's really over-acting the embarrassment;" or
5. "Oh, good, I'm glad she got her clothes back so soon!"

Seriously, can somebody name ONE example that made you think any of those things? EVER?

As I see it, the whole point of this exercise is to see how far we can push the boundaries. Helmhold has shown us that all the pre-conceived notions of how far this stuff can be taken are all totally full of crap.

Anybody exploring this realm shouldn't try to do a "little better" than what has been done before, but should intentionally see if he can take all the aspects to their extremes. Keep going until it doesn't work anymore, and then back off. Until somebody someday manages to succeed at that, the danger of doing too little is a LOT greater than the danger of doing too much.