CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.

[hemo101]

Wow! ! ! I knew checking out Dtp would bear fruit. I caught sight of a potentially good cfnf scenario entitled "the wow of all flesh". Here we have an absolutely nude Tanya, I think, except for her shoes , wrestling another fighter, sorry her name escapes me for now, completely covered in a unitard, plus an eyepatch. Looks promising and interesting. Film 599 to be exact. Anyone with a heads up on this?

[collis5]

forum won't let me post link but it is there on green eyes site, its pc107 candi's humiliation, search by 'candi'

[Cigar4u]

The DT video 599 would have been a perfect example of CFNF wrestling exept they deviated from the CFNF theme and the description misleads the reader. It actually is a nude vs. nude video in disguise.

The winning wrestler in this video is Christine Dupree, a veteran fetish wrestler who has made numerous videos for a lot of companies. She is sort of a pioneer in the sport by being one of the first women to do videos where she attacks her opponent’s privates and pulls on their pubic hairs.

For many years from the 1950s through the 1980s the attacking of another woman’s boobs and crotch in wrestling videos was taboo. In only recent years have the women wrestlers, directors, producers, etc. found a way to target such areas that is not painful yet looks somewhat believable.

For example, one of my favorite wrestlers, Santana, is really good at twisting boobs – she really sells it – but in reality she is not really doing it. She simply moves her hands over her opponent’s breasts and gives the illusion that she is twisting nipples or boobs while her opponent throws her head back and screams like her mams are being ripped off. If you play it in slow motion you’ll see what I mean.

Christine, on the other hand, is really good at – for lack of a better term – “weeding the garden.” She really makes it look like she is tearing out another woman’s pubic hair. There is a DT video she did with Lisa Comshaw that I understand focuses on fully clothed Christine attacking naked Lisa’s pubes. I also plan to buy that one in the near future.

But, back to the Christine vs. Tanya match.

I too planned to purchase that video until I saw other photos of that match posted on Yahoo Groops and other web sites.

What you don’t see in the DT photo is that Tanya early on in the fight ripped Christina’s leotard from her chest to her crotch, exposing everything Christine has to offer. And the former Penthouse Pet is nicely endowed. Christine retaliates by stripping Tanya naked. While Christine remains in her leotard throughout the fight, it is in tatters and does not cover anything but her legs, arms and backside.

(I do not know why Christine wears an eye patch in this video. She is not blind in that eye. I guess the producers thought it somehow would make her look sexier. In a way, it does. It works for me.)

From the other photos I have seen, it appararently is a one-sided match with Tanya offering little or no effective defense other than tearing Christina’s suit. Also from the photos there apparently is one scene where Christina hangs Tanya by one of her boots from the top turnbuckle – in wrestling it’s called a “tree of woe” – and punishes her by stomping on her. Some folks are really into that form of trampling.

Again, I think the producers or director, in their misguided belief that men and women want to see both combatants nude, made a big mistake here. They had the opportunity to make a classic CFNF wrestling match and surrendered to a decades’ old stereotype requiring both women to be equally clad or unclad.

Christine had posed nude in men’s matgazines and has been naked a lot on film. There is enough nude material on her out there. Given the way she domnated this fight, she really should not have been even partially nude.

There is some consolation here, however, in that this is one of the few female wrestling videos where there is a referee – a third girl – Stacy, who I understand remains clothed in her stirped shirt, shorts and shoes throughout the fight. So, in effect, you have a video with one woman fully clothed, another semi-nude and a third gal nude.

As for the Candi video from which you posted photos, yes, Greeneyes makes sense. Candi has done a lot of work for that company.

Greeneyes is owned by former wrestler Joan Wise, who seemingly has been in the business forever. As a result, she rarely drifts from the standard stuff dating back to the ‘70s.

But I like Greeneyes because it, in effect, launched the career of one of my favorite performers Bunny Glamazon, a six-foot-tall blond stripper with huge boobs who does a lot of domination wrestling stuff, but, as of yet, no CFNF or CFNM material. That’s a pity because she has done a number of one-sided matches, declining for whatever reason to denude her helpless opponents in the end.

Greeneyes does very little CFNF material. The best stuff is probably their nude female vs. nude male matches with the women emerging victorious. They also produce female on female clothed vs. clothed, nude vs. nude and, of course, the very popular topless vs. topless matches.

Because of Greeneyes’ track record I wouldn’t be surprised if the big black woman later in the video strips herself naked for no good reason and continues dominating a nude Candi. I don’t know if that happens, I am just saying I wouldn’t be surprised. Before purchasing the video it would be worth inquiring from the company or a person who has purchased the video if it is CFNF throughout.

That brings up another subject – I have found, like Frrio has, that these companies are approachable.
I once called Women’s World in Florida and the owner answered the phone. I introduced myself and, even though I had purchased only three videos at that point, he knew exactly who I was and pretty much what I had bought previously. I was impressed about how much he cared about his customers.

I called to ask about a particular match that I had purchased in a compilation tape featuring the endings of matches, when the stripping of one woman usually occurrs. The match featured a small blond named Shannon whose bikini was pulled off by a tall barefooted redhead in a black leather suit. I could not find it in their catalogue. He told me the number of the video and described the other two matches in it.

The video actually was a three-part story in which the big redhead dominated Shanon, then another small blond named Nikki in a wrestling ring. In the third segment, the redhead, wearing a bikini, took on both bikini-clad Shannon and Nikki, who turned the tables by beating and stripping the redhead.

Although I did not wind up buying that tape, I did purchase another compilation tape that featured the end of the third segment – again, the owner told me I could find the finish of that match on that tape, which was really the only part of the match I cared to see.

So, if you have questions about a particular video, it wouldn’t hurt to place a long distance call to the company and simply ask them about it before making a disappointing purchase.

As for writing a Kennedy vs. Monroe fantasy match, I might just give it a try. If I write it I’ll post it to a new thread.
Helen, as you probably know, the trouble with writing stories is you sometimes get disappointed that people do not respond the way you want them to. You leave yourself open for ridicule and disappointment – or even worse, apathy.

This forum, I have found, is really photo-driven. Take this thread, for example. Most of the comments and “thanks” have gone to you for posting the thumbnails of the Candi fight, not for my long-winded postings. Quite frankly I’m surprised that no one has attacked me with nasty comments for being verbose, which can sometimes happen on forums.

Also, I recently posted a lengthy four-part story to a ballbusting forum called femaledom.com. It took me a week to write it and it was full of nearly every fetish of that genre – CFNM, female on male ballbusting, wrestling, etc. I got maybe six responses from the more than 1,700 people who read the four installments. Although they generally were positive reviews of the piece, the overall response was so small that, in the final analysis, I felt it was not worth having written or posted it.

Before I write a story, I’d like to know if there is a significant demand for it.

Frrio what is the other video you had DT produce for you? Was it ever released to the public? You may say it was a flop, but others might not think so. Your Bare Bottom Battering video would have been just the thing I was looking for had the victorious girl not been topless. Still, from the description, it seems like a real solid video, especially for bare-bottom spanking fans.

[frrio]

First off would you believe it - I sat and wrote a long response, went to preview post and it disappeared!! Anyway..thanks for the heads up on Green eyes. Ive managed to locate that match and in short, it looks real good!
Although you say the site is very nude / nude based..im going to do some searches with regards to matches to our tastes ( as there seems to be loads of clips! )

Now this match is between Candi and Dynamite. The match is approproiatley called ' Candi's Humilation ' Check the synopsis of the fight - it mentions that Dynamite doesent lose an article of clothing throughout the match! This coupled with the realistic background setting ( something I also look for - for added realism ) looks v good. In this case Candi is seen to be humilated in a work place. Also the pics shown are at least new to me, and seem to be clearer shots. Check the one of Candi covering her front in dispare as Dynamite holds her from the back, seemingly enjoying the humilation.

The only problem with this - is that the match is a) a little expensive and b) seeminly only available in dvd format. I prefer downloads for convenience, so may contact the company to see if theyl convert it. If not I may end up buying it / and then converting onto file on the comp, for you to see. Check it out anyway;

http://www.greeneyes.com/wrestling/v...l/movie_id/862

With regards to DT - I'll check that vid out later - however i do know the Wow series are quite good. Do a search for ' wow ' in the box and view the vids - there are quite a few. Most if not all are nude / nude, however again watch in these for the ' little segments that set the beat going in parts of these matches. Where possible purchase the cheaper streaming movie first to see if you like or not. Note you wont be able to save this to your computer and the quality is not always that good.

With regards to the custom - I dont know the title of the match ( they name them, not me ) however its in the sneaky preview section, Lexxi vs JC Marie. Basically I was due to work with Tylene but she backed out so I ended up with Lexxi. This in my opinion is a good example of all what is wrong with purchasing custom vids. The acting is poor ( they try to be embarressd, but seem to laugh instead. ) Again focuses with ass exposure, which is the only part I liked. In all honestly I'd give this match a miss, but hey ive had to stomach it financially. With custom vids its important to be exactly clear with how you want the overall match to feel, setting out key pointers and of course get the girls that can 'play' into your role..ie research them before, see if they have the potential by looking out for the way they act / interact etc - to fulfil your desires on film. The later vid im afraid got it all wrong.

Hemo thanks for the site, I will get round to checking your stories as and when. Seems to be so much going on, checking sites you have provided me with. And cigar, I for one would be interested in your stories, so why not give it a go, nothing to lose even if a few people genuinely are appreciative. From past experience EVERY forum i have vistited, has browsers who in this case are just here to see women undressed ( there is nothing wrong with that ) and not neccesarly all that bothered about the discussion. However I judge that a few people are seeminly interested as per the odd replies that seem to be getting added to this post.

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[hemo101]

Hi Friio!

Glad to know you found it. Hope you would be able to share it with us. From the looks of it the vid appears to be the epitome of all we have been looking forward to in a cfnf fight, with the winner losing not an ounce of clothing while heaping humiliation galore on her abjectly naked opponent. Hmm. . . come to think of it, wouldn't it have been better if the winner had on a denim jacket too, which would have contrasted nicely against her hapless foe's utter nakedness. Just a thought.

You mentioned also that you joined f-ffights, but you were not too impressed by it. I recall a long time ago of downloading a very interesting pic of two women battling. One was dressed in a sexy red dress and had boots on while her opponent was barefoot and nude. The dressed girl also looked as if she had a knife. Too bad I seemed to have lost that pic. Have you come across this scene and if so, whats it all about.

Thanks also for taking time out to check my stories.

Hey Cigar!

Go for it! I for one would look forward to your story. You really shouldn't mind other people's violent or otherwise apathetic reactions to your work. Its yours, you should be proud of it. You write for yourself and not necessarily to make someone else's day. Boy if you read some of the nasty criticisms of my work you would just about give up writing all together. Hmm. . . come to think of it I havent written much lately. Hmm. . .

Oh BTW I've tried reaching the sweet as candi yahoo site you mentioned earlier but keep getting the info that there is no site by that name. Could you please give me a link. Would definitely like to check it out.

Thanks

Love

Helen

P.S.

Could you give me a link too to your four part story

[frrio]

Hey Helen - Thanks - ive just bought it, dont know when it will arrive though. Hopefuly il get it put on here as soon as. Your certainley right - looks promising!

The f-f clips how many pages are we talking back, was it a long time ago? I'll do a quick search. So what was your first experience of cfnf wrestling then? In essence mine developed from the WWE stripping matches they used to have. I used to love one of the mainstream girls getting disrobed and being humilated by a diva. I found Chyna stipping Ivory after a b+p match once pretty good..and it developed from there, eventually I went looking for lesser known companies - up until present day!

[hemo101]

Hi frrio!

Hmm. . . what first got me into cfnf fighting. I guess it started out with reading some pulp fiction and watching B films where there are gratuitous scenes of scantily clad women fighting it out. Eventually I started to imagine what it would be like if one of the fighters were a lot more dressed than the other, and the fight a lot more humiliating for the loser. I cannot recall exactly what I read or watched that got me hooked but one scenario I do remember is one where one of the combatants was only in a skimpy bikini while her opponent was fully dressed in jacket and jeans. Some long forgotten b film from the past.

One favorite scenario of mine goes like this:

Our heroine is invited by her boyfriend to spend a weekend at a beach house with some of his friends. For our purpose, lets say our heroine is a petite oriental chick with china doll features. The boyfriend can be you or cigar.

They arrive at the beach house earlier than the rest and have some quality time alone together, if you know what I mean. At some time, boyfriend has to leave his girl to pick up his friends, who seemed to have gotten into car trouble. Left with nothing to do, heroine takes a look into the inviting water and slips into this really skimpy bikini for a swim and tan.She heads out barefoot with nary a coverup or towel.

While frolicking in the waters her boyriend arrives. Together with him are his two best buds and their girlfriends, who are bffs themselves. In addition, there is another person with them, another girl who happens to be an ex girlfriend of our heroine's beau and is also another bff of the girlfriends of his best buds. Lets see, the guys are all dressed in your basic shirts and jeans, while the three girls are dressed for travel, in jeans, shirts and jackets.

Boyfriend then goes out to invite his girl in to greet his friends. Getting hold of her hand he practically drags her in. Feeling and looking quite embarrased having to face her boyfrind's friends in her skimpy outfit, our heroine's uneasiness grew upon seeing the third girl, whom she knew was her boyfriend's ex.

s our heroine tried to excuse herself to put on more clothes, the others somehow were able to deter her and so she ended up partying with them in just her bikini.

As more and more alcohol was being consumed, our heroine's boyriend's ex started to get more and more friendly with her ex. Eventually the two disappeared while our heroine was being otherwise distracted by the other girls. Once noticing the absence of her boyfriend, our heroine was able to break away from the two girls and search for her missing beau. She found him in a rather compromising position with his ex.

After yelling and ranting at the rather indescreet duo, our heroine turns her back on them and stomped off to put on some clothes and leave. However, before she gets far, she is attacked by her boyfriend's ex, who was eager to show her willingness to fight for him.

What ensues then is a totally one sided and humiliating catfight for our heroine who is much smaller than her boyfrind's ex who stands about a head taller than her. First she is swiftly stripped of her skimpy attire, first the bra and then the panties, leaving her delicious charms exposed to all present. Once nude her privates are mercilessly assaulted by her demented foe, who expressed sheer delight in tormenting her naked and hapless opponent.Unfortunately for her, none of the other guests came to her rescue and seemed quite delighted in watching her humiliation.

After a while the winner of the match lets up, but only to pull up our heroine by her nipples. Once stood our heroine is then dragged inside the house by her tits and made to gather her stuff. While still naked she is then grabbed by the hair by the victor and made to march back outside with her bag. They go directly to the bonfire made earlier where to her horror she is made to throw all her clothes to the fire to the racuous applause of the others, especially her now ex boyfriend, who went up to his new girlfriend with a kiss.

Too bad for our heroine, she lost her dignity, clothes and boyfriend all in one night and had to spend the rest of the weekend totally nude and at the mercy of the three couples.

[hemo101]

An on topic pic

[Cigar4u]

I’m getting a kick out of the appearance that there are just three of us in the whole world who have this one fantasy. I really wish more people would weigh in on this thread.

But, because Helen and Frrio are so enthusiastic about the subject of CFNF fighting, I will be more than happy to carry on this conversation with just them for now. Anyone else who wishes to join in is more than welcome.

I’ll respond first to Frrio this time, then Helen.

Frrio I’m glad you found the Dynamite vs. Candi video, and yes that link indeed is where I first saw photos of that fight a while back. I believe I also saw additional large photos in a Yahoo Group.

I too plan to buy that video. I think that Helen hit it on the head when she said this video – if it lives up to its hype – is everything we are looking for in CFNF fighting.

You mention that you like scenarios or setups leading to a fight. If that’s the case, I have suggestion for you – Womans World Wrestling Tape SLV-334. There are two videos on this tape and both involve CFNF fighting. But the one with the great setup is called “No More Bad Bosses.”

Samantha is a boss who catches her worker Candy (a lanky brunette – not the actress in the Greeneyes Video) going to a gym to exercise during work hours. Samantha is wearing a shirt, shorts and bare feet. Candy is in a gold lame bikini and barefoot.

The two women argue over Candy’s goldbricking and then wrestle in the ring at the gym. The match is pretty even until Samantha gets the uperhand and strips Candy of her skimpy suit. Samantha then gives the naked and unconscious Candy a full-body shampoo.

The match ends with two other female co-workers arriving at the gym to see their fully clothed boss Samantha verbally disciplining a naked, kneeling and soaking wet Candy about goofing off during work time. The two women in dresses watch Candy’s humiliation at the hands of the boss. It’s a pretty neat scenario.

The other match features Jill Monroe beating and stripping and shampooing Zoe or Zora. Both start out in bikinis. Jill also “shaves” Zoe’s head. But the bald wig Zoe is wearing is so fake it is ridiculous. (She doesn’t even bother to put it on right and it looks like her skull is caved in.) The fight, however, is a good one-sided affair.

I anxiously await your review on the Candy vs. Dynamite video.

And now, to Helen.

I previosuly had read some of your stuff (Justica and the one about the pro wrestling league) on the Catfight message board. They’re all terrific stories.

I am going to take a wild guess that the Helen character is based somewhat on you and that Louisa is based on a former high school rival or even a good friend of yours. And I am going to assume your work is fiction – very good fiction.

What I like about your writing is that you paint a vivid picture of the combat. I can easily envision what is happening. So many writers try to explain complicated holds and the reader has trouble trying to figure out if one person is up or down or whatever. You, however, stick to easily explanable holds and maneuvers and thus the action flows smoothly.

What I don’t like about your writing – and mind you there is nothing wrong with what you do – is that you take a lot of time leading up to the fight by developing the characters perhaps a little too much. Then again, some people love that stuff. Others, like me, not so much.

For example, I love the fight in the story about the two sorority sisters. I had to however, work my way through the long setup. From the second paragraph on I knew there was goingto be a big fight between the two but it seemingly took forever to get to it.

Again, that’s OK because some people – especially women, I reckon – love that setup suff as much as they enjoy the fight description. Men primarily want the sexy details of the combat.

And sexy details you gave. I love the part where Lousia put on Helen’s clothes after knocking Helen out. And I absolutely loved how you had Louisa interpret that Helen was not yet naked because she still had her pubic hair – and how you had Louisa take care of that issue. Ouch. It hurt just to read it.

But my favroite stories were Castaway and Castaway Retribution because you really explored – and pushed -- the bondaries of CFNF fighting and humiliation and brought the story full circle with Helen getting revenge on Louisa.
And it was a nice twist with the nude Helen beating the clothed Louisa in the warehouse. Ordinarily that would not work, but the way you set it up made it work perfectly from a standpoint of a fitting revenge.

I’d overall rate your work as among the best catfight material I have ever read that fits my taste.

I do have a question for you, Helen. You seem to have a thing for the victorious woman burning the losing woman’s clothing. I also think that is so cool because it means the defeated woman has to remain naked and likely will have to go home that way. My thing however is the victorious woman keeping the loser’s clothes and shoes as trophies.
From a woman’s perspective (and I hope you are a woman as the name Helen would indicate, but on the internet you just never know), what’s your opinion about keeping another woman’s swimsuit or other article of clothing as a souviner as opposed to forcing her to burn everything she had on?

To answer your question about Sweet as Candi, you have to first join Yahoo Groops. That’s easy – it costs nothing. Go to Yahoo.com Groops and follow their instructions.

Because you cannot use the search engine to get to adult-oriented groups you have to kind of fool around and search ambiguous entries like women’s wrestling, catfighting, erotic wrestling, strip wrestling, etc. Then after viewing the photos and files in a group you join, click on the links for that group and that will lead you to more like groups, including those of an adult nature, you can join. Before you know it, you’ll have joined a hundred groups or more.

This site's adminstrators will not allow me to post a URL until I have at least 10 posts to this group.

As for my four-part story, it is on the femaledom.com message board. You can join the message board without joining the pay site. The board is free.

But I have to caution you Helen it is not the same type of fetish message board as this one. (I have more than one fetish.) In fact, femaledom.com is the ying to this site’s yang, dealing primarily with men as victims of embarassing situations, including being kicked in the balls and beaten up by women. I do not know if you are into that. If you are not, then I would not recommend you joining that message board.

The story is under the Ballbusting World category and is entitled “Ballbusting Aunt’s Triathlon.”
Written in the first person, it is a fictitious story about a teenage boy who is put through a grueling series of quasi-athletic tests by his aunt, who also is his domina mistress, and her female friend, the nephew’s former babysitter whom he despises. The tests serve as a means and competition for the older clothed women to attack the naked young man’s groin area.

The third chapter is somewhat garbled by font codes, but is somewhat readable. You have to go in several pages to find the first three chapters. The final chapter, which has a rewritten cleaner copy under the font-garbled one, comes a few pages later.

If you read it, let me know what you think.

Meanwhile, I’m giving some thought to the Jackie-Marilyn fantasy fight story. I have a little research to do, then I might sit down in the next couple of weeks – time permitting -- to write it and post it to a new thread on this message board.

[hemo101]

Hi Cigar!

Thank you so much for taking time out to read my stories. Thank you also for your very kind comments and shall try to keep in mind everything you said next time I try writing once more. I know I do get carried away with details, leading to a very slow build up, but sometimes I feel this may be necessary to paint a complete picture for the reader. I shall keep in mind all that you have said and try to improve.

As for your question on my take on the victor taking all of the loser's clothing after the fight vis-a-vis their total destruction after, I must admit I am fifty -fifty on this. Both are equally degrading for the loser and will result in her total deprivation of any means of covering after the fight. Thus extending her humiliation even further. I like the idea of the winner taking the loser's clothing if both are of equal size. I would love it more if the winner gets to wear the loser's lost clothing and parades herself in front of the loser to really rub it in. I also love the idea of the winner utterly destroying the loser's clothing in front of her very eyes. More still if it is the loser herself who is made to do the destruction. Imagine how humiliated the loser would feel as she is forced to destroy something precious to her with her own hands. Brrr. . . I shudder to think of it. (N.B. As you have read my stories both subjects have been dealt with. In Madame President, we had Luisa don Helen's clothing before she proceeds to take her on, while in Justicia, poor Helena is forced by Luisa to auction off everything she owned to the crowd, and having to burn anything that was left unsold, leaving her with absolutely nothing she can call her own.)

I'm sorry I haven't yet taken time out to read your story. I must admit though I'm not into CFNM situations nor female domination of men. But I will read your story anyway just as soon as I can.

On another note, I believe these are the elements for the ideal cfnf catfight:

1. Both combatants should be beautiful and sexy as hell.

2.One of the women, obviously the winner, should appear more imposing than the other, the loser. Imposing in terms of size, bearing and attire. I love your idea of one of the combatants wearing a long sleaved turtle neck top and jeans tucked inside her knee high boots, especially if her opponent is forced to fight her in only a skimpy bikini. Right at the outset the one in the bikini would be at a psychological disadvantage to her more clothed foe.

3. The fight must take place in a crowd composed mostly, if not all, of the winner's friends. I think it would be most horrible for the loser to get stripped and toyed with in front of people she knows and sure to see everyday than in front of strangers.

4. The fight is also recorded somewhat for posterity. Cell phone cameras whould be good here.

5. The crowd openly cheer for the winner and derisively jeer the loser as she is going through her paces. It is very important that in cfnf one sided fights, every one has a good time, except of course for the loser.

What you think?