Hot Blonde Dared to Strip Naked

[susansusan]

Originally Posted by fango44

Susansusan, objectively I understand where you're coming from in that, on the surface, yes this is a fairly standard cam video. But what really turns me on about this one, aside from her (in my opinion) GREAT body, is the fact that she was dared to do it and she accepted the dare. It's really that aspect of it, the context over and above the content, that gets me. I've never seen something like this before, in my now 8+ years of online porn surfing: a girl dared by some anonymous Internet goofball to post a naked video of herself and who actually took him up on the dare. It was not 1. her initial idea to do a strip video, and 2. it wasn't a private video for her boyfriend that was stolen or maliciously posted or "innocently" placed on a public Photobucket. I've seen countless cam vids, and they basically all fit into one of those two categories. This one is like some kind of weird, new third category that, like I said, I've never seen before. She made this video essentially because she was asked* to do it and then she posted it, publically, uncensored, on a site that doesn't even specialize in nudie videos. That's just very, very sexy to me. And I thought it would be to more people, too...

Yeah, I agree - the context is fantastic- but on a personnal level (just my opinion- other folks I'm sure will feel differently), it's good, rather than great.

The background (the dare) is super- I dunno why, though, but the video itself just doesn't "hit the bullseye" for me.

[marcello]

Originally Posted by fango44

And also considering the fair amount of attention this one received, a video which I don't consider to be too far removed from this one in terms of content (aside from lack of full frontal nudity and dancing).

For me the full frontal makes a big difference. I seem to be in the minority here, but I'm starting to lose interest in all these girls that will only get topless and then claim they got naked.

Honestly there are enough gorgeous girls out there that actually show it all, that I just don't have time for the ones that will only go topless. There are rare exceptions, but only for the hottest of the hot.

I do appreciate your efforts though fango and I download many of your vids. I'm only posting something negative about this one because you asked. Normally I would just skip over it.

I am also going to hit the thanks button more in the future when I see something good in the caps.

[masterthes79]

I'm with marcello on this one, while the girl is very attractive (and hope I don't seem like a prick here), but I think it's a bit of a cop out to only go topless. I'm the kind of guy that thinks if you show your tits, why not show the pussy as well.

[Fango]

Originally Posted by masterthes79

I'm with marcello on this one, while the girl is very attractive (and hope I don't seem like a prick here), but I think it's a bit of a cop out to only go topless. I'm the kind of guy that thinks if you show your tits, why not show the pussy as well.

Ok, so, question, if the thread were titled "Hot Blonde Dared to Go Topless", would that change your opinion of it any, or would you still be disappointed that there's no full frontal nudity? That is, are you more like marcello, in that anything less than full frontal bores you? Or were you just disappointed that the description didn't live up to the content ("topless" ≠ "naked")?

Fango

[susansusan]

Originally Posted by fango44

Ok, so, question, if the thread were titled "Hot Blonde Dared to Go Topless", would that change your opinion of it any, or would you still be disappointed that there's no full frontal nudity? That is, are you more like marcello, in that anything less than full frontal bores you? Or were you just disappointed that the description didn't live up to the content ("topless" ≠ "naked")?

Fango

I think all three posts above make very relevant points.

One one level, the actual level of nakedness isn't of great significance. I'm sure Fango would support this point- it's the CONTEXT that makes the clip good in some people's opinion- the dare, the looks, the attitude etc. The exact ammount of nudity on show isn't of great relevance.

Supporting this angle, for example, would be the remarkably brilliant strip done by a radio host in Penn, called Brianna. There was no ACTUALLY nudity on show, but the context was brilliant...

but then...

Others would argue that the more that is on show DOES make a difference. Full nude from behind has the edge over topless, full frontal nude has the edge over "implied" nude, and pussy/labia on show has the edge over the tamer full nude pictures.

In support of this would be the fact that most commercial sex magazines and websites DO show fuller nudity, including vagina shots. Also, most of the very popular softcore sets "vote for your favourite submission sites" tend to include shots in which the models labia is clear visible, especially if the model seems happy and confident.

As such, from this viewpoint photo 1 would be prefered over photo 2, which in turn would be prefered over photo 3, with photo 4 having the least appeal(the number of click to see the picture may give some indication of this) :

However, it could be counter argued that photo 4 was perhaps the nicest, as it was more of a "tease" that left something to the imagination.


(Finally, a note on British slang.. "has the edge over" means "Is prefered " or "is generally more appealling than", generally used when the items/situations etc being compared are relativley equal.)

[Fango]

Originally Posted by susansusan

I think all three posts above make very relevant points.

A very good analysis, and the "illustrated examples" were a nice added bonus. As is surely evident by now, I fall very much in the context camp, though I can certainly appreciate the mindset of those who couldn't give a rat's ass about what the video is about and just wanna see some pussy.

Fango

[johnnycancer]

Originally Posted by fango44

Ok, so, question, if the thread were titled "Hot Blonde Dared to Go Topless", would that change your opinion of it any, or would you still be disappointed that there's no full frontal nudity? That is, are you more like marcello, in that anything less than full frontal bores you? Or were you just disappointed that the description didn't live up to the content ("topless" ≠ "naked")?

Fango

Not that this question was addressed to me, but I figure I should get in here as well.

I think part of what I enjoy about videos in the "lost a bet" and "dare" genre is that, usually on some level at least, there's some kind of reluctance or hesitance on the part of the girl to strip (although, some of that I think is often just theatrics more than anything else) and yet, there's also some desire to expose herself as well. I think it's that tension between modesty and exhibitionism that I find sexy about these kinds of videos.

That said, there really isn't any of that erotic tension in this video, as far as I can tell. The girl, while certainly nice to look at, doesn't seem to be very conflicted about what she's doing. And, at least from my perspective, she seems to do it rather mechanically. I think when others have commented that it seems like "just another cam video" this is what they're referring to; that she appears to just be going through the motions rather than really having the experience of following through on a dare. This isn't helped by the fact that she keeps glancing off camera for the whole video and while I'm sure it's because she's watching her movements either in a mirror or on a computer screen, it just makes her look distracted and disinterested, like she gets naked on camera all the time. So, the erotic tension I would normally expect from a dare video just isn't there.

So, what's wrong if there's no erotic tension, we still like girls with exhibitionist tendencies, don't we? Sure we do. But, this doesn't really feel like a webcam exhibitionist video either, primarily because it feels very calculated to expose just the parts that she wants to expose. I think we've all seen enough cam vids now to know that it is indeed possible to get your whole body in the frame without having objects conveniently blocking certain portions of your anatomy. So, the position of the camera and the fact that her movements do seem (to me at least) to be very planned out to keep her pussy out of the shot detracts from the exhibitionist value of the video.

Does the lack of full frontal nudity ruin it? Not really. I mean, I would prefer full frontal nudity since she was "dared to strip naked" but, it's not the lack of nudity itself that bothers me. It's a bit difficult to verbalize, but, if, for example, she had stripped but kept her hand over her pussy, or held some kind of object in front of it (pillow, stuffed animal, towel, whatever) I wouldn't have minded because that because 1) that seems more honest to me, and 2) it demonstrates that she's actually emotionally involved in the dare because she's reacting to her exposure. But, playing with the angle of the camera and choreographing your movements strikes me as more of a tease than anything else - not a tease in the sense that we don't see any skin - it just feels scripted when what I want to see is her reaction to everything.

In short, the lack of tension and spontaneity just don't make it a very good "dare" video, in my opinion, or a very good webcam exhibitionist video either; it's just another average cam video that happens to have an interesting back-story.

It's not a bad video by any means and I definitely clicked the "thanks" button without hesitation when you posted in the Free Sites section and when you posted it here. I just didn't comment because I didn't have anything particularly positive to say about the video itself.

I am glad you posted it though, because it is a dare video and I like seeing girls doing naked dares, even if they don't turn out exactly like I would want them to. So, it's not a situation of "thanks, but no thanks" by any means. It's more like getting a tie as a gift. Did I need another tie? Not really. But will I wear it? Sure.

johnnycancer

[Fango]

Thanks for your honest assessment, johnnycancer. If it helps any, on her bragster page she wrote "Dislikes: nothing!!! just no naked bullshit". I assume this means that up until her "last brag", she wasn't willing to do any naked dares, but decided to accept this one as a grand finale/thank you to her fans. Also, along with being in the "context" camp, I've always been in the "tits are better than nothing" camp as well, so the lack (even the choreographed lack) of full frontal nudity doesn't really bother me. If she had undressed, but somehow stayed completely covered up, then it might have bothered me a bit, but the fact that she bared her tits and ass is good enough for me.

Fango

[masterthes79]

The last part of your statement is where I fell in. Just my level of expectations were. If it was just topless, I'd still watch it because she is of the femine type. It was just not as special to me as it was to you. Like you, I've seen countless clips of women stripping in various forms of undress. Maybe I've seen so many that the only thing that gets me really excited is when a girl goes the full distance? Or maybe I just didn't find her as attractive as you did

[jjanda_2000]

- Context. Mentioned so many times in this thread, and seems to be the common element that swings the vote (aside from truly offensive material in any context). Apparently many here share my opinion that context can override content in many, if not most posts. The problem comes when we try to quantify that element.

I call it a problem because I am unable to completely articulate the elements and nuances of the 'context' factor. I don't fully understand them myself. I am much more affected by upshort spics that by upskirt pics. I have no idea how to explain that - it just is. If the view (undies or not) is exactly the same, I can blow by the upskirt version, but will always pause to enjoy the upshort version.

Susansusan offered the four sample pics and I agree with his ranking of content. Now add context. If the pics are offered as a guy posting shots of his GF, I find them very hot. If they are posted as a part of a photoshoot by a porn star for her own web site, then my interest is considerably lessened.

For me, personally, context is very often more important than content.