ENF: Mia lost her clothes

[Red]

Originally Posted by fango44

- In keeping with the "lost bets" theme, I would love to see something, anything, that involves the girls having to go outside naked.

Tricky, because being a legitimate business, I can't run afoul of indecent exposure laws. Some day when I have a venue that allows it, I'll do outdoor nudity. Also, Seattle in March is not the time and place to shoot out-of-doors. Never mind the cold and the near-constant rain; the lighting is awful

- Further afield, I would love to see a vid in which a girl's clothes disappear bit by bit, thanks to the magic of editing, until she is left naked.

I've already considered that -- something like the Strip-O-Matic gun that Ed invented -- and it's on my list of things to do. Not immediately, though.

- Minor request: Any chance for a little bit of Hidden Nudity in any of the videos?

You mean coverups? I've got two decent (albeit brief) coverup vids on the site right now.

BTW, what will it say on my credit card bill if I donate? I don't want to have to answer questions about what "Lost Bets" is...

I believe "PayPal", but I could be mistaken.

[Fango]

Originally Posted by Red

something like the Strip-O-Matic gun that Ed invented

I'm not sure I've ever seen that. What is it?

Originally Posted by Red

You mean coverups? I've got two decent (albeit brief) coverup vids on the site right now.

Hidden Nudity=nudity hidden by strategically placed objects. The objects are either held by the girls themselves, someone else, or placed in the foreground. Either way, they block the nudity without the girls actually covering up with their hands.

Fango

[Red]

Originally Posted by fango44

I'm not sure I've ever seen that. What is it?

Oh, I'm referring to a recurring theme on Ed Cetera's site A Measure of Curiosity. He does photostories, some of which involve a clothing-dissolving gun.

Hidden Nudity=nudity hidden by strategically placed objects. The objects are either held by the girls themselves, someone else, or placed in the foreground. Either way, they block the nudity without the girls actually covering up with their hands.

Duly noted. I'll see what I can do.

[Red]

First video is now up there. Hope y'all like it.

[Lotfw]

Red

You might want to consider not linking directly to paypal and instead use an email address to paypal money to..

I know of sites which had to use other methods because of paypal
Terms of service..

Originally Posted by Red

First video is now up there. Hope y'all like it.

[Red]

Originally Posted by Lotfw

You might want to consider not linking directly to paypal and instead use an email address to paypal money to.. I know of sites which had to use other methods because of paypal

PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy states that PayPal will not process payments for the purchase of sexually-oriented digital goods. I'm not asking people to buy anything. (That's also the answer to a question I've been asked, "Why don't you give donors a version of the video without the nag screens?" Because that would violate PayPal's policy.)

Even so it's possible that PayPal will take offense. They're just a stopgap measure anyway; if the site takes off I'll switch to another payment processor. And if the site doesn't take off, it doesn't really matter anyway.

[Lotfw]

Good first video...attractive girls and good reactions to playing the game

[masterthes79]

Great vid. Nice comeback too. I think the other girl should've got naked though too. Just to be fair and all

[Fango]

I finally had a chance to see the vid. Here are my reactions:

***** SPOILERS BELOW *****

- First, a question: Are these models who regularly do nude work?

- A great come from behind win for Mia.

- Will some of the donations you receive go towards the purchase of a tripod, or did you just choose not to use one? The handheld was kind of distracting, but not a major issue.

- The contribution reminder just before Ashton took off her bra was more than a little tacky and interrupted the flow of the video (in other words, a major turn-off). Sure, it was attention-getting, but in a bad way. To tell you the truth, it's the kind of thing that makes me not want to contribute.
I know you need money, but I think a reminder at the beginning and end would have sufficed, not to mention all of the reminders on your site. If you absolutely feel you have to have a reminder in the middle of the video, may I humbly suggest that you scroll it across the bottom or top while the scene continues instead of stopping the scene dead?

Overall, it's great to see these kinds of vids. The game had a nice, fun, relaxed feel to it, with just the right amount of embarrassment. I'm looking forward to the next one.

Thanks

Fango

[Red]

Originally Posted by fango44

- First, a question: Are these models who regularly do nude work?

What Ashton and Mia do when they're not playing stripping games is their business... I don't think it'd be right for me to talk about their day jobs.

- A great come from behind win for Mia.

Indeed So much so that I worried that people would accuse me of fixing the game... which I didn't.

- Will some of the donations you receive go towards the purchase of a tripod, or did you just choose not to use one? The handheld was kind of distracting, but not a major issue.

I've already acquired a tripod and will use it on future shoots. My next purchase will be a set of professional lights. And there's a new high-definition prosumer camcorder coming out in April that I want to buy.

But whether I'll use donations to buy these things is sort of academic, because so far, I can count the number of donations I've received on the fingers of one hand. I can count the number of dollars I've received on the fingers of one hand.

- The contribution reminder just before Ashton took off her bra was more than a little tacky and interrupted the flow of the video ... I know you need money, but I think a reminder at the beginning and end would have sufficed, not to mention all of the reminders on your site.

Yeah, well, it's a little annoying when TV shows get interrupted for commercials, too. As for needing money... I think perhaps I wasn't clear on why I'm asking for donations.

What I want to do is evolve LostBets.com into a full paysite, with new content once a week. I've already invested a lot of money and time, but I can't go to the paysite model until I've invested quite a bit more. I need to build up an inventory of videos featuring several different models, I need to hire a web designer, I need to contract with a payment processor, I need to buy licensed copies of Premiere and Flash, etc.

My biggest fear in doing this is that I'm seriously overestimating demand. I've been a fan of stripping games for 22 years now, ever since a friend of mine showed me Artworx Strip Poker on his Apple II. I've wished for a site like this. StripGameCentral.com comes closest, and is an excellent site, but is stills-only... no video, no interactive games. So I would cheerfully pay for this content... but what if I'm the only one? Or what if I'm one of very few? This is what worries me, this is what makes me want to keep my checkbook in my pocket.

The contribution model isn't intended to make me a profit, and it isn't intended to be permanent. It's intended to be a way for me to judge demand, to determine how many people would be willing to pay for this content. So far, the response has been extremely disappointing, but the video is still new and maybe contributions will pick up as time goes on and more videos are posted.

To make a long story short, when I go to the professional-site model, the videos won't have the nag screens. So if you want to see the nag screens go away... contribute

Overall, it's great to see these kinds of vids. The game had a nice, fun, relaxed feel to it, with just the right amount of embarrassment. I'm looking forward to the next one.

The next one will be my first interactive game, featuring Mia vs. You. Should be up by the middle of next week.