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Old 10-15-2006, 06:58 PM
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Fango- I'm not trying to discredit your post in any way, this is merely my own opnion! So here it is!

I really don't go for this kind of stuff at all. IE It does nothing for me. The reason being that its theatrical- its staged/acted/worked- call it what you will. Any nudity in movies, TV dramas etc (EG Sarah alexander in Nude Practice) simply doesn't hit my buttons. A good actress can feign embarrassment and shock in the same way a good hooker can feign an orgasm.

The reason I say this is I can just picture take after take after take, trying to get it right. I'm sure than any (genuine) initial embarrassment the model felt is long gone.

Please note that these are only my own feelings- shared for the sake of discussion- I'm not criticising your post.
Then why the heck did you even bother coming into this thread in the first place? It clearly said "commercial" in the thread's title. If you know you don't like this stuff, then why did you click? It seems to me that you did it just to tell me you hate this stuff. You've done that before too. I'm not objecting to criticism or "feeling sharing" in general, it's just that this criticism or "feeling sharing" or call it what you will isn't at all valid, as you knew what the content was going to be and you could have just not clicked.



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I really don't go for this kind of stuff at all. IE It does nothing for me. The reason being that its theatrical- its staged/acted/worked- call it what you will. Any nudity in movies, TV dramas etc (EG Sarah alexander in Nude Practice) simply doesn't hit my buttons. A good actress can feign embarrassment and shock in the same way a good hooker can feign an orgasm.
SusanSusan:

I never want to discourage one from giving their opinion, and one has to accept that you did so respectfully. What I find interesting about an argument against "staged" ENF, is that, in many cases, THAT'S AS GOOD AS IT'S GONNA GET!

Okay, there are plenty of non-staged ENF here on the forum, but, unfortunately, they ONLY show a laughing, high jinks response. A lot of college kids "stripping" each other in dorms, and smiling wives as their husbands videotape them in the shower, knowing that they'll get them to erase the tape, or hiding their face and everything else before the look can be appreciated.

THERE ARE PROBABLY ONLY TEN ACTUAL ENF MOMENTS OF NON-SMILING SUBJECT IN ALL OF THE THOUSANDS OF POSTS AT ONE-CLICK.

What fango presented is the closest thing we can get to ENF: A staged one.

Susan...When was the last time you were holding your camera and aimed it at a pretty girl in her prom dress, only to have it get torn off by the guy who wouldn't date her? Good luck achieving an actual ENF video capture in the next 100 years.

I, personally, am not big on animation, but the Japanese animation has nearly dedicated itself to the art of ENF:

1. The hotty attitude of the girl completly above the trash of the streets, standing in her finest outfit.
2. The attack of the creeps.
3. The slow stripping in front of gang members and her friends.
4. The exposing of her in her sexiest bra and panties.
5. The stripping of her underwear.
6. Her nakedness.
7. Her looking down at herself and the expression on her face at the realization of the view the bad guys are getting.
8. The reaction of her friends and collegaues.
9. Her attempt at modesty, if allowed.
10. Her attempt at escape, if allowed.

Naturally, I'd like to see this done by human actors.
NATURALLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS DONE BY AN ACTUAL WOMAN IN AN ENF SITUATION OF REAL LIFE!!!

This commercial that was posted was outstanding and on topic. So few posts actually are. VidPro and I got to discuss this one for a while. It was THAT good.

So, if no one minds a bit more of a discussion, SusanSusan, what are your five favorite posts here of non-staged ENF where the subject is not smiling at the situation, but showing genuine embarrassment?

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Old 10-15-2006, 11:27 PM
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Then why the heck did you even bother coming into this thread in the first place? It clearly said "commercial" in the thread's title. If you know you don't like this stuff, then why did you click? It seems to me that you did it just to tell me you hate this stuff. .. I'm not objecting to criticism or "feeling sharing" in general, it's just that this criticism or "feeling sharing" or call it what you will isn't at all valid, as you knew what the content was going to be and you could have just not clicked.



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Sorry if I didn't make this clear- this wasn't criticism (I wasn't saying it was a BAD clip), just my own opinion and I wasn't saying I hate the clip! As for why I clicked the thread in the first place, I think that just because its a commercial doesn't automatically imply its staged/acted nudity. It could, for example, be a collection of clips of genuine shock nudity perhaps, or unaware flashing- or anything. Pretty much any kind of footage can be found in commercials! also I think a commercial could be a little less dramatic and still feature ENF.

Anyway, its all good fun.

Mad Scottsman, I do understand what you are saying- that the real thing is so rare that when done well with actors etc it is just as good.As for laughing, I think in many ways laughing is a natural responce to being embarassed. But as for non-laughing clips- I'll think about it! But something along the lines of that lady with her skirt caught in a taxi, or that cockney who pulls down a girls pants on a party boat- or any footage where a male stripper strips a lady (eg Hungry Duck.)
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:55 PM
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Fango - I think your clip was well appreciated by the rest of us. I love hidden nudity on TV.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:02 AM
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Just to be clear- I wasn't trying to criticise the clip or say that it shouldn't be posted! I was just explaining why, for me, it didn't really hit the spot! The comment that it was the "second best of all time" in some ways invited the discussion- It wasn't my intention just to bash!
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:34 AM
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I think that just because its a commercial doesn't automatically imply its staged/acted nudity. It could, for example, be a collection of clips of genuine shock nudity perhaps, or unaware flashing- or anything. Pretty much any kind of footage can be found in commercials!
I would like to know, have you ever actually seen a commercial with actual ENF in it? That is, not acted? Come to think of it, I've never seen a non-acted commercial, ENF or otherwise, unless you count ads for Girls Gone Wild and the like, which just take clips from the videos. If you ever have seen a commercial like this, with actual video footage of an ENF that occured in real life, I would love to see it. Otherwise, we'll just have to settle for acted ENFs in commercials.

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Old 10-16-2006, 12:44 PM
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Tarrant on TV, some of the old Norton shows, Carrots/ rory McGraths commercial Commercial break. Made a habit of showing "saucy" adverts from around the world, with humour being a leading factor. But yeah, most rely on acted ENF although there was the odd commercial done in a candid camera style, the most striking being an (Indonesian?) commercial in the NANPA style (apparantly genuinly), where skirts were being lifted, finishing with a lady without underwear.I forget the selling point there.

There are also odd clips that feature "nudism" as a theme, but to some extent too thats clearly staged and isn't ENF.

But yeah- I agree. Genuine ENF in adverts is very rare.

Classic adverts such as the Danish Sauna work because of their shock value, and their blunt (but totally brilliant) humour.

Has anyone come across that faced-paced Danish advert for Cheese, that finishes witha lady washing her private parts, full frontal, with the tagline " If you don't wash yourself you will smell like <this brand of cheese?>"

Finally there is that classic advert for Opal Fruit Ice lollies- I can date it because it was on when we moved house- 1993. If you pause it just at the right time, when the lady does a spin, she is clearly not wearing knickers- you get a frontal view. Or so I am sure- I think its a genuine bit of nudity that sneeked into the advert. Cynics would claim its just a pair of bikini bottoms.
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When It comes to sexy enf tv ads, I am shocked that no one has even MENTIONED the ad for "Juiced" the car video game ad, If you search under videos for juiced you will find it, its probobly my personal fav.
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Old 10-16-2006, 04:30 PM
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When It comes to sexy enf tv ads, I am shocked that no one has even MENTIONED the ad for "Juiced" the car video game ad, If you search under videos for juiced you will find it, its probobly my personal fav.
The only reason I don't like that Juiced ad and never have is because the girl is clearly some "Page 3" reject, bimbo model that the producers hired solely because she has a huge rack, and not for her ability to act. I'm more interested in seeing realistic portrayals of ENF by "real" women, even if they are acted (sometimes especially if they are acted), and that's the case in my top 3 choices for best ENF commercials. I'm not saying the Juiced ad is not a sexy commercial, I'm just saying I don't think it's very convincing ENF acting.

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"Tarrant on TV, some of the old Norton shows, Carrots/ rory McGraths commercial Commercial break."

I'm not familiary with these ads, are they posted here somewhere????
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