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Old 11-24-2005, 01:11 AM
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I would think the hottest enf scene would invole take a beautiful shy girl putting a blindfold on her tell her that a surprize awaits. Bring her to a nude beach where everyone is naked, take off the blindfold and see what she does. Now that would be something worth watching. If anyone as seen something like this please post it photos or videos. I don't think i have ever seen that.
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Old 11-24-2005, 09:01 AM
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The pics are from an old french porn movie i think...
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Old 11-24-2005, 06:11 PM
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My girlfriend told me an ENF story that happened to her once when she was younger, that put to film would actually be arousing for some. I know the area it supposedly happend but when she told it to me she was one of the bullies, but later on in life I met the other two girls involved and after knowing them... and knowing how she was.... I think she was actually the victim in all of it.... anyways I guess thats not really important... basically the scenario breaks down to: (well the way she told it... eventhough I think it was actually her that got gotten)

Her and two other friends were hanging out on a saturday on the steps of a school portable that boarders on a large nieghborhood park. Another girl that was less popular came over and was trying to be friendly and get in with thier group... (but see thats the part where I think it was the other way around... I know for a fact from other stories she told me... she was't part of the popular crowd back in school.... anyways...) They let her hang with them for a bit... and feel like part of the cool crowd... shared a cig (cuz back then smoking cigarettes was considered cool)
then just to be mean started taunting her... and then it became pushing... then they tugged her track pants down.... she pulled them back up and got the idea she wasn't welcome... but before she had a chance to walk away they went a step further and pulled her track pants right off and pitched them a lil ways down the path....

Now at the time... a.) I didn't want to sound like a perv....by asking details and b.) didn't want her to know I was kind of turned on by all this... My hunch is that their was more to the story... and to this day it's the type of story that I've always wished I could have been a fly on the wall at the time it happend... and have always wanted to know the full story.... perhaps an idea for a bit in one of your films... give it a good ending LOL
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Old 11-24-2005, 06:11 PM
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"I loved the movie as well, but I would have loved to see a more public embarrassment."

me too. the only thing is, the great stripping scenes in the beginning kept getting repeated.

you could make your masterpiece if you made one move, with MANY different ways of the girl getting stripped. catfights, on stage, in public, with a sword, whatever. your movie would achieve legendary status
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Old 11-24-2005, 06:54 PM
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Thanks for your interest! In fact, I have been talking with a female writer (it's always nice to get a woman's perspective on this stuff) just kicking around film ideas about ENF situations that involve more forceful stripping. never know, something could turn into a cat fight...
I'm sure you have way more suggestions than you could possibly film, but I imagine it would be easier from a situational creativity and from a pure filming mechanics point of view to spend more time on the heroine being KEPT naked for as long as possible, instead of being stripped over and over again. I'd have been happy if the housecleaning scene from Babysitting could have taken up forty minutes, with some waitressing and other duties thrown in for good measure.

The saying "clothes make the man" is really bullshit: women are much more status conscious when it comes to the effects of clothing. It's not intrinsically embarrassing for a woman to be a stripper - they are SUPPOSED to be naked. It's when a woman is INAPPROPRIATELY naked, that the loss of status comes about. In my experience, this has a very great effect on the libido of the stripped lady, and it's that thought that really turns me on.

Girls can cruelly belittle each other for even the smallest faux pas, like wearing white shoes after Labor Day. I shudder (in a good way) to think how they might treat a woman who suffered from an utterly COMPLETE lack of fashion. For example, Maybe one lady tricks or traps another into wearing a ridiculously brief maid's outfit, sans underwear, and then manouvers her into serving as her personal waitress....

While I'm on the topic, I'd like to mention that the verbal humiliation in Babysitter ("How can you be in charge? You've lost all your clothes!") worked really well. That, too could have been expanded throughout a much longer segment - preferably with shots showing the effect it was having on Laura's composure. Couple that with some quick spanks to spur performance, and maybe even occasional pats to reward it, and I think you'd be talking Academy Award material here.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:15 PM
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Kopema, that was an excellent post, and I just wanted to comment on a couple of things you mentioned.

I have often wondered what the single longest (female) nude scene in movie was, excluding porn flicks and blatantly fetish videos. I'd also restrict artist model scenes, cause that's not too exciting Anyway, whatever the "record" is for prolonged nudity... one of my aspirations as a filmmaker is to break it!

To that point, the two scenes that stand out in Fantom Kiler are the one girl running through the woods, and the car fixing scene. They were both great. The only downfall, as I mentioned in the other thread, was that the scenes ended with the two girls getting killed. Not very erotic at that point. (But the lead up to it was!) Anyway, that's why I want to make something like a Mindy the Exhibitionist film and have a story that follows around our hapless naked heroine as she tries to keep from getting caught...

Also, your point about the way women are critical of each other is well made, and it is one of the things my female writer friend and I have been discussing. Ways to incorporate clever and intelligent dialogue as the victim is being stripped, commenting cruely on her choice or clothing, style of undergarments, etc. Just some thoughts among other ideas presently in development.

I sure expect the New Year to be pretty interesting!

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Old 11-25-2005, 01:36 AM
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I have often wondered what the single longest (female) nude scene in movie was ... one of my aspirations as a filmmaker is to break it!
Who cares? Any idiot with a camera and the money to pay a nude model can max that out.

The real trick is in doing it in a way that never becomes boring. Sadly, many directors manage to reach that threshold with the first frame. I sometimes found myself fearing that the excitement would always have to be in inverse proportion to the duration of the scene, because most 'mainstream' examples of embarrassment were incredibly short (such as the high-energy Juiced commercial.) I feared that the instant surprise and shock might have been necessary components.

But you've already proved that mold can be broken; the question is how far can you take it? But it really doesn't make much sense to try to compare yourself to others; you're basically breaking new ground here.

I think the scenes in the Fantom Kiler movie were some of the longest sustained high-energy scenes I've seen so far. And I think neither the director nor the actresses were even really trying to capitalize on embarrassment per se. The Euro models acted more indignant than really embarrassed, and I think the director was just trying to take the titillation factor of the "teen slasher" type movies to extremes, along with the violence, for some kind of parody effect.

As I've said before, I for one wouldn't mind if you skimped quite a bit on the production values in order to give us more quantity. You know how film students turn out dozens of "experimental" films? When you're blazing a new trail you shouldn't be afraid to make as many wrong turns as necessary to learn through experience what works and what doesn't. I think a lot of us would be happy to watch (and in the process help subsidize) your journey.

(BTW, did you say before you had a lot of cutting room film lying around from Babysitter? If that includes nude scenes, I think a lot of us wouldn't mind paying a few bucks to see even the scraps.)
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:12 AM
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I have often wondered what the single longest (female) nude scene in movie was

There are many scenes like this and I don't think there is a record. One thing you may consider is staring a new fetish, that can always be a breakthrough.

NENF NON-EMBERASSED-NUDE-FEMALE: A female who can be naked without shame, there i think i just invented a fetish

My new fetish

Headband topless: topless girls on the beach wearing headbands.


I was just looking at a live webcam of Bondi Beach Australia and see sow many women topless. This is definaltely my fetish, i could sit on this beach every day for the rest of my life just watching all the topless ladies.

I guess we all have to follow our dreams and never give up.
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:23 AM
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(such as the high-energy Juiced commercial.)
Juiced was perfect except for the panties. do another juiced please!
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:39 AM
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I always understood La Belle Noiseuse to have the longest female nude scene, in that Emmanuelle Beart spends most of the movie posing naked for a painter. Not ENF though. It's a pretty mainstream (French) movie, any good video store should have it. (Do we still call them video stores?)
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