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Step back a bit for a moment.
-Why do you want her to skinny dip? -Do you just enjoy innocent skinny dipping with friends in a non-sexual naturist/nudist manner? -Is the swimming an "excuse" to see her naked? Why? simple curiosity? a frisson? or more? -Do you want to have a sexual encounter with her? -Do you think/hope that she wants one with you? -If so, for how long? once? cousins with benefits? marriage? She hasn't taken the baits you gave her. She clearly refused to join in at the clothing optional place and resisted a return visit. Were YOU naked there? Was her skinny dip reference just a completely unserious random passing thought which she did not want you to progress? I know that my wishful thinking regarding someone I fancied, who was only being friendly or flirtatious, has led me to develop elaborate, imaginative and completely fantastical impossible scenarios based on hope and lust! A lower risk way might be to go hiking (so SHE has a nice day) and then you get into the water without her seeing you naked eg "I'm going to skinny dip now, close your eyes if you must". But at all times she must feel free to do as she chooses and not feel threatened or pressured or manipulated in any way - otherwise she will probably recoil. If she joins in - great. If she does not, they you can both laugh it off, but you will have tried and will probably still have a cousin you can continue meeting at family events for the rest of your life. |
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But in order to have that "herd effect" (aka "when in Rome..." effect), well you need a "herd." A "one-on-one" situation makes it more difficult because then it's just about the hang-up of "my cousin seeing me naked." Other nude women being around changes the focus from "self-conscious about getting naked" to "self-conscious about staying covered." |
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OP has already pushed way too hard. So if anything happens, even him saying, "I'm gonna do it, close your eyes" etc. then she's gonna realised that was your plan all along. Id go totally opposite and do nothing unless she initiates the skinny dip. I wouldn't even bring it up. That will make her think you were just joking and then it allows her to think you don't want to see her, which in turn may make her want to do it even though she seems to have set out pretty clear boundaries. Then the next time you go hiking with her, so may be open to a spontaneous dip.
But doing this with a cousin? Mmm... ain't the best idea. Why not take a woman you like who will go skinny dipping and that way the cousin may join in as you won't look like a predator. |
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Honestly, trying to shag your cousin is a bit out there,
Am going to guess your either southern american or a british royal, |
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A cousin of mine and I used to spend summertime at the family lake retreat. Us and others with cabins there hung around together hiking through the woods, swimming, fishing etc. She was one of two gals and about five guys in the group. We used to swim all the time for fun and to cool off from the heat and exercise.
We had always swam with suits on as most of us wore them all the time. One day we had taken this long hike in the middle of summer. On the way back we were passing one of our "swimming holes" at a deserted spot on the shore. One guy exclaimed that it was time for a dip to cool off. Well, for some odd reason there were also like two of the group who had been wearing their trunks. At first we were wondering "Why did I not wear trunks.", then thought maybe in underwear, no maybe even skinny dip. The two guys with suits went right in. The rest of us were jealous. I said well I'm at least going in undies. Another guy said nothing, but stripped down and waded in. That is all it took and immediately the rest of us stripped down and got in. My cousin stripped as if it was something she did every day. We all hollered for the two guys to take their trunks off. When we got out we all stood around drip-drying, Off to the side I chatted with my cousin. I told her I didn't realize she liberated like this. She said she had never done this before, but felt comfortable with right away. She said if the situation had gotten sexual she would have "freaked". Any way after that day it was very common for us to skinny dip sometimes. Fast forward 25 years..... I was in my cousins town one night passing through on business. I called ahead and told her I was coming. She insisted I stay at her place. Having been recently divorced, she was living alone. Upon arrival she gave me a tour of the place including the patio with hot tub. We went out for dinner and to meet old friends of mine. We got back to her place, just the two of us. She suggested a dip in the hot tub. I never considered going out there nude. She was out on the patio right behind me -NUDE. The first thing she said was, "I thought you and I past the modesty stage?". I immediately dropped my trunks and in the hot tub we went. We had a great time talking old times including the days at the family retreat. Of course we had to rehash the first skinny dipping as described. We had a great iime. We talked sex, but there was never any sex between us. |
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This is WAY easier than you may think. IMO, you are going about it the wrong way if you're simply proposing to your cousin the idea that you want to see her in the nude. Because we go to burning man regional events we are surrounded by people we've met over the past few years who are all comfortable with nudity, as long as it isn't per se sexualized for THE purpose of seeing what someone or someones look like in the nude. Now that Covid is in the past, at least enough to return to partying, my burning man group is once again having pool parties and have had, so far, two parties so far, one in May and one this Saturday on June 19. Everyone who goes to the party knows everyone will be nude. It's a very freeing experience and reminds one of "children at play" and not a lifestyle party. Our parties are in fact on Facebook and all you need to get invited is to know someone or have someone vouch for you. Then you can see the pages on Facebook for the "group".
To solve YOUR specific issue of wanting to skinny dip with one particular person, you should instead find someone you know who has a pool and ask them if you can have a pool party their that is swim suit optional. More people than you can imagine will come out to do this, especially if you remind people this is a safe environment that sets limits, does not include nor allow for gawking, and is ONLY a skinny dip event. Make it like ours, a BBQ event with B.Y.O.B, and everyone contributing some food and a $10 gift per person to the host. Then once your FB group is created and your event is up on the calendar, along with the "rules" re a calm and joyful naked event, invite your friends and your cousin and even co-workers to the event. It will in fact expand. No joke. Getting naked at a party where nearly everyone participates is a normal thing to do, and more would participate if it was understood that cameras and photos from phones are strictly prohibited. In fact, if you include in the description of the event 5 expectations of how the event goes down, that can really help. Also, make sure it's understood that it's swim suit optional. There will be varying degrees of nudity, and the next party you have a few weeks later will be more successful, and include more relaxed people. Now I'm not going to pretend that your guests will not occasionally check out one another. I, like everyone I suppose, surreptitiously check out everyone else's body and I suppose they do the same thing and, like me, think to themselves, "Oh - so that's what Cheryl's vagina looks like. Nice trimmed bush. Her boyfriend's a lucky guy." But all of this is done without being a jerk-weed. I hope this helps. PM me with any questions you may have. Think of it as fun, and you can't go wrong. Also, make it clear that it is 18 years and older, and no pets. Not that nudity around young people is a bad thing - it isn't. But most will feel more comfortable knowing only adults will be there. |
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