Tracy asked to stand in as a model at a photography club at short notice.

[artfuldogger]

Originally Posted by apeyboy

Dont leave us hanging

Ditto!!

[stevezr1]

Originally Posted by apeyboy

Dont leave us hanging

OK, can do .........

After her photo shoot with the guy in our apartment building, we got our proofs and they were very nice. Just as was expected, black and white classic nudes, different lighting, shadowing etc., nothing especially provocative. The following week, she approached me with another request. Her new photographer friend had another proposal for her. He asked her to pose for his photo club. Nude of course! He said there were usually about 6 or 8 or so members present at their meetings, which took place at a different member’s home each month. He said she would be paid for her time, although it wasn't a lot of money. And of course, again I wasn't welcome.

She was now a semi-professional model! She seemed quite excited for this opportunity, and again, I said yes. Why? The whole idea of her in that situation really excited me. But meanwhile I'm dumbfounded how different she had become. I had hoped a photo session might get her to be more willing to be nude here and there or topless at beach, etc., but didn't expect to have a budding exhibitionist on my hands practically overnight.

When the big evening came, and from the time she walked out the door until the time she returned a few hours later, my mind was racing, thinking of her all sorts of erotic scenarios. But when she returned, she assured me it all went well, that she really enjoyed herself, and found the experience very exciting. Exciting? hmmm. And just like her first private session, she was very horny that evening, and I reaped the benefits in bed and she fucked me silly. So I'm thinking that her evening with the photographers must have really been "exciting" for her! But like the first photo session, she was reluctant to share any details of that evening.

A few days later when I sensed she was ready to open up a little, I asked her if the nude photo sessions were going to be regular thing for her. She said no, that she decided that she wouldn't be doing it again. I was surprised to say the least, disappointed and yet relieved at the same time. Of course I pressed her for her reasoning. It seems like she had gone a little beyond what she was comfortable with. Apparently she felt the men weren't quite as professional as she expected, that right from the start, it was a little more that classic nude poses, and they were hinting, yet not really suggesting more provocative poses. She said she surprised herself and was more than willing to please them. She would NOT go any further with that. But she did say that at any given moment, she felt like she was just a heartbeat away from being involved in a full blown porno photo shoot.

I asked if that was the case, why did she said she enjoyed herself when she first came home from the session. She said that she did if fact have an enjoyable experience. But she said the very next morning realized that while she did truly enjoyed herself, she was also nervous and frightened. Frightened? She said she wasn't necessarily frightened by the men, but rather the situation. And frightened that in a weak moment she could easily be coaxed to do things she would really, really regret. I think what she really meant was that she didn't trust herself! We'll never know. But believe me, a full blown porno studio session with a bunch of guys taking photos, and maybe more, was definitely one of the erotic scenarios I had imagined!

But The ex was a changed woman after that experience. She would walk around our apartment nude or topless with shades open, day or night, and think nothing of it. Weeks earlier, she wouldn't think of that. She also started dressing a lot more provocatively, accenting her great rack, going braless regularly, yeah, with C cups! And showing lots of cleavage, etc. I really loved the "new woman" in my life.
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[xxxxenophile]

Originally Posted by SteveZR1

And of course, again I wasn't welcome.

I'm really glad this worked out for you both, and had such great consequences! The item above is a really bad sign of so-called "professional" or responsible people. No professional would prohibit you from attending - it would be like announcing that you are going to fuck your model, and creates the impression (quite rightly) that you are trying to create an isolated, vulnerable environment. Of course, these guys aren't professionals, and are trying to get their rocks off. Nothing wrong with that so long as they aren't trying to represent themselves otherwise.

But, it seems like it was all okay in this instance. I think the odds are good that she played around, but given the after-effects, you'd be a fool to get upset about it. Better to enjoy the woman they helped create!

And tell me where you live so I can come shoot her too

[stevezr1]

Originally Posted by xxxxenophile

......................... No professional would prohibit you from attending -............................Of course, these guys aren't professionals, and are trying to get their rocks off. Nothing wrong with that so long as they aren't trying to represent themselves otherwise.
............. Better to enjoy the woman they helped create!
And tell me where you live so I can come shoot her too

After the dust settled, the first shoot was most likely on the up & up, and apparently he presented himself professionally. (semi pro? he did have a "day" job) and in retrospect, in all likelihood his main goal all along was to recruit her, so was probably trying to act professionally and not scare her off.

As I recall, the logic of me not attending the first photoshoot was that "the model may become distracted and inhibited" with someone else there. hmmm. just how uninhibited does she need to be? Regardless, it sort of made sense then. And, again, however selfish of myself, I was finding the whole situation pretty erotic.

And with the second group shoot, you're right, I'm convinced they were just a bunch of pervs, not serious photographers.

BTW, PM'd you with her address, she'll be expecting you....
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[clitty]

There are lots of "professional photographers" out there, that are anything - but. Not to say that even pros don't use their talents to still get tail. I used to do a lot of photography of things, places, people and women. I've only had a few shoots result in nudes, no sex. I even did a few shoots with a woman who I dated a few times, to go along with a hobby-photographer who wanted her to model (she didn't know him - but I did). I would bring my own camera, let me be the primary.

She did sex poses in public places, much of it is art quality. Some almost nudes. I got some great shots, did some directing while not trying to hurt his ego. His photography was amateur but his choice of outfits (which he provided some) and locations were excellent. I remember talking about her in a sexual way some weeks later, looking at photos of her in a thong. This other guy was "insulted" that I would refer to in such a way. HELLO, she's got a thong and her legs are open?!

Anyhow... back to the original point. The shoot with Tracy was fine, she was in control of what could happen and trust/open relationship. She could have kept it PG-13 if she wanted too. But the one with SteveZR1 is a NO-NO and could be dangerous. I know of girls who had no-consenting sex with "photographers" by getting dunk or Cosbyed (drugged). One such clown (of most likely many) has his work on some pro-modeling/photography sites. His "work" is shit... its women semi-nude & nudes at various locations... good enough to attract naive young women because he doesn't charge, which he uses to build his portfolio - to get more women.

Ladies (anyone who is reading this)... whenever ANY photographer wants you to model, and he says you CANNOT bring an escort/chaperone or friend (usually a guy) or boyfriend. I've done dozens of shoots with BF or male or female friends and they NEVER distracted the work. I've also have most of them sign waivers. If you are legit, you're not going to things that can effect your business or future clients.

Again, if he says "NO Boyfriend ALLOWED" - Its not a legit shoot. Now, if you are cool with doing the "club" thing and doing gangbangs or having nude modeling for fun, etc - do it safely. Make sure someone knows where you are going.

I'm a kinkster. I've done photography of people having sex. I'm open to people doing any kind of consenting sex with other adults. I'm a strong believer that all parties involved are having fun and consented. People have taken photos and videos of me in the buff and having sex - which I have said "You got any more?"

Glad that for the most part, Steve's EX did become more open minded and it didn't progress any further... if it had, she would have felt dirty and likely done the OPPOSITE things afterwards.