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Heading to TE in M with my wife in the next couple of weeks.
This trip has been a long time coming. We first went here before we were married about 23 years ago. I knew we would be nude the wife did not. When the lady at the desk said it was nude I acted surprised and said oh well lets do it. My wife agreed. In the end she enjoyed it, even teasing in the pool to get a rise out of me. I loved it and said I'd love to do it regularly but I was told in no uncertain terms, this was a one off. Over the years I've tried to get her to go again but she's refused. She is quite a prude. Went topless a couple of times on the beach when our kids where young but that’s it. Even when we go to a local clothing optional beach she will change under a towel when there are topless/ naked women all around us. She also refuses to go nude in our hot tub even though no one would be able to see. She was adamant she would not go nude anywhere in public. Imagine my surprise that when my wife when to Munich with friends at the end of 2024 she ended up in TE (and that she actually told me she'd been). I got a message saying "can you check what's just gone on the credit card" me "TE - is that not the spa we went " her "haha might be" me "did you go nude" her "no we went to the kids side- honest" me "when are we going" Turns out the wife and her friends had a couple of cocktails and then got nude. This situation is already exciting. 1. I've been imagining the wife and her friends naked in TE. All three sat at the swim up bar with boobs on display for all. It must have been a great sight - all very different body types. 2. I cant wait for the trip for the obvious reasons (ogling lots of nude women of all ages) but also I'm looking forward to the following questions being answered: How will my wife groom her pubic hair. My wife is not a regular groomer (once a month maybe) when she does she has smooth lips and a landing strip. I'm guessing she will have seen lots of shaved pussy whilst in TE. Will she groom before we go. Will she expose her lips or maybe more before going nude in public? How confident will she be? Will she only drop the towel when needed or will she be more relaxed. I'm hoping to get good weather and in the hope I can get her to sunbathe nude in the gardens. Once we've been, will she be more relaxed with public nudity? Will she go nude/ topless on the clothing optional beach we go to or even at least change in the open? I can’t wait to get answers to these questions! |
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Disclaimer: This is just my experience, I am not saying it's like this every day or that people were wrong. I could have just been unfortunate that my gf and I went on the wrong day. I am not sure. Again, just sharing my experience.
Unfortunately, my trip to Z in A was not quite what I thought it would be. Went with my gf. We were there on a Friday afternoon till the evening and while I did see some beautiful women, it was honestly few and far between. The most disappointing part of the visit was the Male to Female Ratio. From my count it was 60% male and 40% male. And I think that is being generous. It was also not busy at all. Very slow and small crowd. Maybe I just got unlucky but it was quite the sausage fest. The quality was not quite what I thought it would be. Lots of covering up between baths as well, which was different from other dutch saunas I have frequented. I also noticed is that anytime there was a beauty in one of the baths or saunas, multiple men (solo visitors) would go in right after them. There was a point I went into a sauna by myself. A beautiful girl came in, and then 5 men walked in after. Unsurprisingly (and understandably) the woman left. Even my gf who normally is comfortable nude told me that she noticed lots of staring. Makes me wonder if Z has gained a reputation for obvious creeps (not talking about those who are subtle and sneaky) thus leading to a decline in quality. The issue being that the people watchers were very obvious in the way they'd stare at turn their heads for any half decent looking woman. The highlight would be a beautiful blond with an athletic build and medium size tits, no pubic hair. She was not shy and I got to see her go into the cold dip. Made her nipples hard which meant I needed to stay in water lol. I watched from a hot tub that my gf and I sat in. Another one would be a dark haired slim girl. Pale skin, perky breasts, and short. She was walking around with a French novel. She was probably around 20. Saw her enjoy the sauna with no towel and jump into the cold shower right after. Also got to shower next to two 20 somethings after my gf went to change. Two friends. Both around 5 foot 10, with athletic builds. One blond and one brunette. Not going to lie, seeing them turn and soap their bodies was exciting and stimulating. A good way to end my visit. While Z was a let down for me, my next post will be about another Dutch sauna. Much better experience. Look out for that! |
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I'm pretty sure that there is a general decrease in genuine sauna going public during the warmer months, that includes the hotter talent.
However, that leaves a similar number of obvious creeps attending. Thereby the creeps are there at a higher ratio at least until the winter. This higher creep ratio will drive down the desire for women to attend even further, creating a downwards spiral unfortunately. |
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Very disappointing to hear regarding Z in A
I'll be there next month hopefully it's a different experience. The creeps are a nuisance unfortunately, seen them many times myself. No subtelty at all, following women into saunas etc |
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Most men are "creeps" to some degree or like to see women naked.
But there is the obnoxious kind, that sits down, and stares women constantly between their legs. Or leaves the sauna exactly when the only nice woman is leaving the room. Or enters a sauna, checks for women, and leaves again, until he's found one. Making it descreet or tolerable, conserves the pleasure for the future and for others. |
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A bit outside the general spa suggestions in this forum, but still interesting. I visited a gym just across the border here into Germany. The gym itself is nice, and the crowd is also as you expect. Upstairs is the main attraction though. A very decent pool and relaxing area, both swimsuit only. And a textile free sauna area, with a few sauna's and some whirlpools. The crowd in the textile free area is definitely much older. Mostly in their 60s and up. Perhaps there is a discount for them? However in between the oldies there were 4 people that stood out; A mother and her daughter, and a son and his mom. First the mother and daughter; I sadly didn't see much of the daughter. She was about 18, but she kept her towel on. Even when undressing she kept it on, which looked quite uncomfortable. She also didn't shower after the sauna because of it. Her mother was slim/normal, with a B cup with some sag. She was fully shaved. The son and mother were much more interesting. The son was also 18, and the mom in her 40s. Both were somewhat comfortable with nudity. Entering a sauna I saw them both there. The benches were in an L shape. The mom was laying flat with both her legs up (like a triangle), and the son a level higher and more to the right as well. So from his point of view he could see down to her pussy lips if she spread. As I entered I sat at the lowest level on the other side of the L. The mom then did something amazing; She dropped the leg closest to me down to the floor, giving me a clear view of her lips! If she did it on purpose I don't know, but she must have seen me look down there. She did have an odd hair choice. It was all fully shaven except around her lips. when standing it gives a sort of landing strip look, but looking at it from my pov it was a almost a bush. Still I got a very good look at her lips. But then I also took a look at her son. From my angle I could see in between the triangle his legs made, right at his cock. He was fully shaved and to my surprise he was sporting a full on semi. I mean it was hovering in the air, about 5 inches long and 4 inches thickness. I can't imagine what it must be like seeing your mom naked, with lips clearly visible! He certainly seemed to enjoy it. The mother left first, and then a few moments later the son got out. most likely not to show his mom he was sporting a decent semi. Definitely a nudist moment to remember.
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I have also bad experience with desperate men running around hunting women at Z in A and other places. It mostly happens during the evening at the weekends.
Most women at Z are very aware of this and behave accordingly. There are very few exhibitionistic women at Z, so bring a date that can tempt you😊 Latest tendency is that the men who is hunting is turning bi, so they are hunting everything on 2 legs. I have experienced to be hunted by men myself and it’s annoying. If you are visiting A and are horny, please go to the Red Light District not to a spa. |
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Best think to do is avoid going in summer
Wait for the colder months |
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Beside the two saunas that have been discussed extensively are there any other specific places that should be considered? |
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