Naked Shakespeare in the Park

[tubwheat]

Originally Posted by Toonces

I have a few things to say here... first, I think public nudity is awesome and it's totally my fetish, I'll admit. I know I'm not alone on this site! lol I understand the actresses talking about desexualizing nudity, which does kinda happen after watching them for a little bit, kinda like you don't notice as much.

The day I was there, there was an Indian dude with a "press pass" (whatever that is...), and they were not only allowing him to photograph them as they were prepping - including the body painting portion - but he was also videotaping them the whole time. I have no idea what kind of "press" he was, but I never saw him interview anyone - so the material he got was with no commentary or editorial, from what I could tell. He was also shooting during the entire performance. And he absolutely was zooming in on their privates, while he was taping.

Of course they gave the standard, "we ask that there is no photography or videography during the performance" shpiel, but that didn't stop me. Hello, it's NY, it's a public park, and I'm completely within my rights to tape whatever I want. So yeah, I got some video - up until the point that some tackleberry chick came up and started arguing with me and making a scene, so the whole audience turned around to see what I was doing (which was moderately humiliating, which I think was the point of her ordeal). I was being discrete and completely within my rights, but of course we all know how that can turn out. I eventually stopped, but did stay to the end of the performance.

So having said all that, F her, I got some great video, and just need someone to tell me how to post it. PM me.

upload it to mega.nz and post the full link with key here.

[AZZO45]

Originally Posted by Toonces

...none of which matter if the performance is in a public place.

Seriously?

With your logic, any artist displaying their work at a public art show or street fair would LOSE their copyright protections or intellectual property control. If a big musical act decided to give a free concert in a public park that their trademark or other rights to the use of their songs. These actors can set up similar rules/ protections in regard to their acting performances.

[larskc]

Originally Posted by Toonces

https://www.aclupa.org/issues/police...deo-and-audio/

"When in outdoor public spaces where you are legally present, you have the right to capture any image that is in plain view.. That includes pictures and videos of federal buildings, transportation facilities (including airports), and police officers."

Not quite. You are correct regarding your civil rights. However, there are two principles at work here. Organizers of most public events, including theatrical productions, have to obtain a permit allowing the event to occur at a specific date, time and location. The locations perimeters are usually spelled out in the permit, and sometimes defined by physical barriers. Said permit also gives the organizers the right to post/announce reasonable guidelines of acceptable behavior. (no alcohol, no weapons, no loud talking....etc.) You acknowledged hearing the announcement regarding photographs or video recording. In doing so, you entered into a social contract with the permit holder. The permit holder has a "reasonable expectation of compliance" by those attending the event. While the law can be a little grey and vary from city to city, most fall in favor of the permit holder. They have every right to ask a photographer to stop. The photographer can choose not to comply. At this point, they have every right to have law enforcement remove the photographer from the area defined in the permit. Note that I said removed, not arrested. Whether or not they are arrested is based entirely upon their interactions with law enforcement during their removal. The photographer has every right to ascertain the event's perimeter. He or she can stand outside the perimeter and click away.

We have seen this principle play out numerous times at political rallies in public places, including parks, over the past year. Protesters can stand outside the perimeter and exercise their first amendment rights of free speech, expression, etc. Once inside the perimeter, the law falls on the side of the permit holder (politician, political organizers) and the protesters are removed.

[crispus]

Sorry to interrupt this fascinating melange of legal theorizing, but I found some pictures...

[larskc]

Originally Posted by crispus

Sorry to interrupt this fascinating melange of legal theorizing, but I found some pictures...

God love you Crispus! Thanks for reminding us that this is not a law library.

[crispus]

Mostly an interview, but has some very good nudity, and gives a sense of how open to public view this performance was, compared to previous venue: vimeo.com/183010107

[larskc]

Originally Posted by crispus

Mostly an interview, but has some very good nudity, and gives a sense of how open to public view this performance was, compared to previous venue: vimeo.com/183010107

Toonces, it looks like this might be the behind-the-scenes video you were describing in one of your posts earlier.

[beetleclash]

Nice find Crispus!

[larskc]

Originally Posted by Toonces

Great find, I agree!

This certainly does have the "behind the scenes" footage, but it's not from the guy that was there when I was. There were 3 nights of performances, and my guess is this was from the last night (the first night had a major, quick, rainstorm shortly before, I believe... - and I was at the second night). My guy was not only not interviewing anyone, but was also Indian - the credits at the end of this vid say it was shot by a guy with a seemingly Italian name. So keep looking - it's out there somewhere!

Oh and Crispus, it was absolutely out in the open (which is part of what contributed to my posts, above) - performers were even leaving the immediate area, and crossing over the path into a grove of trees easily 100 yards from the "main" stage, walking/running around passers-by and everything.

Toonces, you had to be in public nudity heaven......

[tubwheat]

Anything else from the second production?