Dressed Undressed - WNBR edition

[raiedefesse]

Originally Posted by dd11aa

when they post photos of them w clothes on also, since it feels almost more personal.

Yeah, but that's also what makes the nude photos 100x more hot. Like Joanna for instance. Seeing her naked but also in skirt, hose, and boots...that just really does it for me.

[flanker7]

Originally Posted by dd11aa

I’m not saying you can’t post the photos, I think that’s fine and people don’t mind being photographed. I think what people don’t like is when they post photos of them w clothes on also, since it feels almost more personal, and would discourage people in the future. That’s just me though.

The issue is that most of the clothed photos are taken from personal social media accounts, and so a simple reverse image search can yield the rider’s name, hometown, workplace, etc. Sure, nowadays you can do the same thing with the anonymous nude pics—if anyone cares to pay for facial-recognition; but posting pics from social media makes it that much easier. So while these posts aren’t exactly doxxing people, they’re making it a lot easier to dox people, and a lot of us here feel like that’s a problem.

When this thread started, most of the clothed pics were from the WNBR, taken before the riders got undressed or after they put their clothes back on at the ride’s end. Over time it’s become something else, and I think it’s a valid question whether it’s something we should be doing on this site.

[HCharles.Crank]

Originally Posted by flanker7

The issue is that most of the clothed photos are taken from personal social media accounts, and so a simple reverse image search can yield the rider’s name, hometown, workplace, etc. Sure, nowadays you can do the same thing with the anonymous nude pics—if anyone cares to pay for facial-recognition; but posting pics from social media makes it that much easier. So while these posts aren’t exactly doxxing people, they’re making it a lot easier to dox people, and a lot of us here feel like that’s a problem.

When this thread started, most of the clothed pics were from the WNBR, taken before the riders got undressed or after they put their clothes back on at the ride’s end. Over time it’s become something else, and I think it’s a valid question whether it’s something we should be doing on this site.

No one’s saying anything about what they do for you. That’s great! They’re hot, I agree. Just not worth it to post them here and kill the golden goose. I think seeing them in their clothing and POSTING them in their clothing with names are two entirely different things

[schlubby]

Originally Posted by dd11aa

I’m not saying you can’t post the photos, I think that’s fine and people don’t mind being photographed. I think what people don’t like is when they post photos of them w clothes on also, since it feels almost more personal, and would discourage people in the future. That’s just me though.

Right, it’s more personal because they aren’t photos from the event, and posting them shows that you’ve figured out who they are. It wasn’t that long ago that people could get a little crazy in public, even have their pics shared on the internet, without it getting connected back to their actual identity. Probably the genie’s never going back into the bottle, but I think it sucks, both for them and for us. We break our side of the deal, and the deal goes away. I get the appeal but I think it does more harm than good.

[eNergy]

Please don't request personal information.

[maxdelmax]

Originally Posted by burger1701

So what do we do then. Wait for some indeterminate length of time till someone suddenly decides that we can start recording again. Because by then people will have forgotten the internet exists and that recordings can end up online.

Originally Posted by raiedefesse

Yeah, but that's also what makes the nude photos 100x more hot. Like Joanna for instance. Seeing her naked but also in skirt, hose, and boots...that just really does it for me.

I thought we sorted this out a couple of years ago. Posting images of women naked at a public event is obviously what this forum is all about. Posting pictures of them dressing/undressing at the same public event is also fair game. But using PimEyes to find their wedding, graduation and work photos, and then connecting it with their public nudity images seems over the top. Especially when many of the pictures are found by using the information to scour their FB and IG accounts.

These women volunteered to be naked in public and I'm sure they were also aware that they would be photographed; but I don't believe most signed up for this to happen to them. Others have pointed out that this can discourage many women from participating, or at least repeating, when they inevitably find out about this activity. But more than that it seems invasive and a little cruel.

I get the appeal of seeing these women undressed and dressed, and it's definitely easy to use reverse image search and PimEyes to do this. What I don't get it the need to make these findings public. OCC isn't some private club as the images shared here very quickly get spread all across the internet.

[dd11aa]

Originally Posted by maxdelmax

I thought we sorted this out a couple of years ago. Posting images of women naked at a public event is obviously what this forum is all about. Posting pictures of them dressing/undressing at the same public event is also fair game. But using PimEyes to find their wedding, graduation and work photos, and then connecting it with their public nudity images seems over the top. Especially when many of the pictures are found by using the information to scour their FB and IG accounts.

These women volunteered to be naked in public and I'm sure they were also aware that they would be photographed; but I don't believe most signed up for this to happen to them. Others have pointed out that this can discourage many women from participating, or at least repeating, when they inevitably find out about this activity. But more than that it seems invasive and a little cruel.

I get the appeal of seeing these women undressed and dressed, and it's definitely easy to use reverse image search and PimEyes to do this. What I don't get it the need to make these findings public. OCC isn't some private club as the images shared here very quickly get spread all across the internet.

100% correct. I’ll have a Fremont post up in a couple weeks time and it will be good. And by all means do what you want on your own time w facial recognition or whatever. Post photos from the ride, post photos of them undressing for the ride. They signed up for that! But wedding photos? Their job? Again, feel free to do it but don’t post it. People have lost jobs over things like this. And if it’s a realistic expectation that someone could lose their job what way do you think turnout will head?

For example one of the ladies in a photo I know personally and she is a surgeon. Would she lose her job? No it’s the pnw, it’s not a big deal. Nobody would care. But do you think she would want everyone to know it’s her? Her clients, her coworkers? Do better guys.

[burger1701]

Originally Posted by dd11aa

100% correct. I’ll have a Fremont post up in a couple weeks time and it will be good. And by all means do what you want on your own time w facial recognition or whatever. Post photos from the ride, post photos of them undressing for the ride. They signed up for that! But wedding photos? Their job? Again, feel free to do it but don’t post it. People have lost jobs over things like this. And if it’s a realistic expectation that someone could lose their job what way do you think turnout will head?

For example one of the ladies in a photo I know personally and she is a surgeon. Would she lose her job? No it’s the pnw, it’s not a big deal. Nobody would care. But do you think she would want everyone to know it’s her? Her clients, her coworkers? Do better guys.

Do better? Maybe the girls don't like having their pics posted on here, period. How happy would they be about that. They are just doing it for charity and not to get wanked over at a later date.
I don't want to cause girls to stop taking part. So maybe I will stop posting on/offs, but let's not pretend we are all motivated out of concern for them. It's about seeing more naked women on future rides
And thank you for giving us permission to do things in our own time, it's appreciated.

[maxdelmax]

Originally Posted by burger1701

Do better? Maybe the girls don't like having their pics posted on here, period. How happy would they be about that. They are just doing it for charity and not to get wanked over at a later date.
I don't want to cause girls to stop taking part. So maybe I will stop posting on/offs, but let's not pretend we are all motivated out of concern for them. It's about seeing more naked women on future rides
And thank you for giving us permission to do things in our own time, it's appreciated.

You're right, they probably wouldn't appreciate the fact that their pictures are posted on a site like this. But I'll bet that most of them understand that if they get naked in public then people are going to take their picture, and, since they would also know how the internet works, they will realize that these images will be posted online. What they probably didn't foresee is the effort some people will put into using these images to find their identity, go through all their personal accounts to find pictures of them at their job, graduating from college, taking a vacation, getting married etc , and then posting all of those along with the photos taken of them at the public event.

I actually believe that some of our members have empathy and would rather these women not have to deal with the potential fallout from being outed in this fashion. And while I'm sure there are some that just don't want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg, I think it's also possible that some of our members can have both ideas at once.

[burger1701]

I'm not some kind of monster. I'm not without empathy so I for one will compromise. I'll continue doing on/offs because I really enjoy it but I won't post them on the open forum.
Just don't tell me to be better when nobody is blameless here.
BTW nice pics.