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[Klondike]

Found some nice pics tonight and put them in a zip. Here are a few to start and then the zip (63 pics) will follow shortly.

Russian pics like these have a quality all their own. Many are almost arty in a way. The photo quality is not always very good and the artistry seems to just happen by accident. I don't know how they do it - the pics have an almost retro look while capturing simple moments without any posing.

Included are some ENF pics -

enjoy,

klondike

[Klondike]

more then the zip. Klondike

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a few more. Klondike

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the zip. KLondike

[akivion]

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[RAYJAY]

Originally Posted by Klondike

Found some nice pics tonight and put them in a zip. Here are a few to start and then the zip (63 pics) will follow shortly.

Russian pics like these have a quality all their own. Many are almost arty in a way. The photo quality is not always very good and the artistry seems to just happen by accident. I don't know how they do it - the pics have an almost retro look while capturing simple moments without any posing.

Included are some ENF pics -

enjoy,

klondike

klondike to me the Europeans in general are not as freaked out about nudity as us Americans are. there taking the pictures just like we would at a party ect.ect. nude to them is not nude to us if you knowwhat i mean

P.s> great post

[Klondike]

Originally Posted by RAYJAY

klondike to me the Europeans in general are not as freaked out about nudity as us Americans are. there taking the pictures just like we would at a party ect.ect. nude to them is not nude to us if you knowwhat i mean

P.s> great post

I guess most of these pics are posed not unposed like I said. I might have been thinking of the second pic (girl eating watermelon).

For Russians, a good time seems to often include cameras and nudity. For Americans, that is not so true and when it is, the nudity is not the same. It is more of the titillating, flashing variety as opposed to casual.

KLondike

[nobusmindingi]

Originally Posted by Klondike

I guess most of these pics are posed not unposed like I said. I might have been thinking of the second pic (girl eating watermelon).

For Russians, a good time seems to often include cameras and nudity. For Americans, that is not so true and when it is, the nudity is not the same. It is more of the titillating, flashing variety as opposed to casual.

KLondike

I think you just hit it on the nose, Klondike.

As I was looking at these (amazing!) pics, I was thinking -- Many/most Europeans I know have a relaxed grace about them, no matter what they're doing.

On the other hand, Americans seem so much more frenzied, with a need to be always pushing something. DeTocqueville thought it was one of the things that makes us "great." And he may be right.

But in the digital, always-on info age, that translates to a nearly manic effort to appear "sexy" or to seem to be "having fun." Consequently, when somebody poses for a photo with any kind of sexy overtone, we often get overtly "sexy" body language and facial expressions. A "come hither" look turns into an outrageous vamp; and a flirty sexiness turns into a vulgar solicitation.

As we note with so many posts around here --many of them yours, yes?-- authenticity and natural-ness have a built in "sexy" quality that can never be replicated by effort. It's like trying to dramatize drama. Can't be done.

[Steps down from the lectern ] Anyway, it looks like these photos reflect the much more natural European grace, and an ensuing magnetic sexiness.

GREAT photos. Thanks for your efforts.

[Klondike]

Originally Posted by nobusmindingi

I think you just hit it on the nose, Klondike.

As I was looking at these (amazing!) pics, I was thinking -- Many/most Europeans I know have a relaxed grace about them, no matter what they're doing.

On the other hand, Americans seem so much more frenzied, with a need to be always pushing something. DeTocqueville thought it was one of the things that makes us "great." And he may be right.

But in the digital, always-on info age, that translates to a nearly manic effort to appear "sexy" or to seem to be "having fun." Consequently, when somebody poses for a photo with any kind of sexy overtone, we often get overtly "sexy" body language and facial expressions. A "come hither" look turns into an outrageous vamp; and a flirty sexiness turns into a vulgar solicitation.

As we note with so many posts around here --many of them yours, yes?-- authenticity and natural-ness have a built in "sexy" quality that can never be replicated by effort. It's like trying to dramatize drama. Can't be done.

[Steps down from the lectern ] Anyway, it looks like these photos reflect the much more natural European grace, and an ensuing magnetic sexiness.

GREAT photos. Thanks for your efforts.

In America, fun is like an industry. It is something that gets packaged and sold, and along with that comes all this stuff that you mentioned. Blame Madison Avenue and Hollywood for creating an image of what "fun" should be all about. "Fun" is road trips, spring break, Havasu, all night keggars and stripping games. And like a boob flash it never lasts long enough, so you have to pack every ounce of party effort you can muster into it.

Don't get me wrong - Europeans are no strangers to party mania either (Ibiza), but Kazantip for example, lasts five weeks and pics from there don't have the frenzy of spring break pics. Babes there take off their tops and relax. After a few hours, they forget they are topless. That is something you don't see in spring break pics.

The resort and vacation industry in the US is based in New York, and it IS an industry. It wouldn't surprise me to see courses on how to hold wet-T shirt contests offered at the Cornell School of Hotel Management.

...OK, well on second thought, it would surprise me. You learn the tricks of the trade after class - wink, wink, nudge, nudge....


Klondike

[nobusmindingi]

Originally Posted by Klondike

The resort and vacation industry in the US is based in New York, and it IS an industry. It wouldn't surprise me to see courses on how to hold wet-T shirt contests offered at the Cornell School of Hotel Management.

...OK, well on second thought, it would surprise me. You learn the tricks of the trade after class - wink, wink, nudge, nudge....


Klondike

Close call! I was dialing up www.cornell.ed....when I saw the last sentence. LOL

I've been working on a theory about this for quite a while. We (Americans) have a way of turning most anything into a "product." Perhaps it's a holdover from our industrial revolution roots. We take everything cool and spontaneous and fun, and streamline it into something to be force-fed to the willing masses.

It has a corrosive effect, wearing the sharp edges off unique human experiences and replacing them with mass-produced homogenous counterfeits. I can't help but think about the perfect example: Breast implants/boob jobs. I mean, how cool is it that a woman with smallish breasts can have them replaced with big knockers? Well, not that cool at all, it turns out. If you look around OCC for a while, you'll inevitably find that posts featuring "real" and "natural" girls get FAR better reviews than those of their enhanced colleagues.

Klondike, you also hit on another perfect example: That wonder of American ingenuity, the wet t-shirt contest. A wonderful, original concept that's been turned into a tasteless caricature. What would we rather see...a few cute, innocent girls from Dubuque and Dayton who had a few too many beverages at Spring Break and got up on stage? Or the brassy stripper types with fake body parts and pre-made "routines"?

It's like a bad "before" and "after" photo.