Casual nudity - not nudists

[jacksonhole]

A couple weeks back I posted a story about a girl I knew in college who got pantsed at a party while she was filling a pitcher from the keg. Instead of being embarrassed she continued filling the pitcher, made a really funny comment to the girl who had pulled her shorts and underwear down, and didn’t pull her shorts back up until she finished filling the pitcher and handed it off to someone. Her name was Karen.

After that party I made a point of becoming friends with Karen, partly because I had just seen her ass and pussy, and partly because I was so intrigued about how casual she had been about the whole thing.

The very first time we hung out together (a few days after the pantsing incident) I brought up what happened at the party and she just shrugged it off saying the girl who pantsed her was kind of a b*tch but she didn’t really care.

I mentioned that I had loved seeing the tan lines on her butt and she asked if that was really true or if I just liked seeing her ass. I explained that I really had a thing for tan lines ever since I was a kid and saw my first Playboy magazine and one of the girls had a deep tan and bright white boobs and ass.

She stood up and said, “well if you like tan lines you should see my boobs” and without another word she pulled her shirt and bra up to her chin and showed me her tits which did indeed have very distinct tan lines. She let me look at them for about ten seconds and then pulled her shirt back down, rearranged herself in her bra and sat back down. I commented that I had a new favorite set of tan lines and she just smiled and said thank you.

I figured she was hitting on me and started to make a move, but she shut me down and said we should get to know each other, she wasn’t really looking for a boyfriend or a hookup right now. I was surprised because in my experience if a girl shows you her tits when you are alone in her apartment, that generally leads to sex or at least a heavy make out session with some good groping. I asked if she was a nudist and she just laughed and said she probably could be, but she definitely wasn’t. She just didn’t care. For her, seeing her boobs and seeing her elbows was basically the same thing.

So she wasn’t a nudist, but apparently Karen also didn’t have any connection between nudity and sex, and that further intrigued me so we continued to hang out for a few years. I have many stories of seeing her tits, ass and pussy, but only a couple stories about us actually hooking up.

I would really like to hear if anyone else has experienced this. A girl who is not a nudist, and is not a party girl getting naked for fun or for the attention. Have any of the women on OCC experienced this, or had a friend like this? In my whole life I have never met someone else like Karen and I still think about her from time to time.

I will also post more stories about Karen as I remember them.

[rodela37]

Originally Posted by jacksonhole

I will also post more stories about Karen as I remember them.

Yes, please do keep the Karen stories going! Loved it

[jacksonhole]

I’m not going to try and go in chronological order, it’s been too many years. Karen and I were never an official couple. I guess we were friends with occasional benefits for around 3 years before I met the girl who became my wife. Ironically, my wife knew Karen long before we met because they had been in the freshman dorm together. She knew Karen as one of the girls who wasn’t shy about walking around the showers naked right when school started, whereas most of the girls would wrap themselves in towels especially the first couple weeks.

I have a few different memories of Karen getting naked or topless outside, so I thought I would start with those.

The first one is easy, about 6-7 of us were hanging out in someone’s backyard drinking beer and throwing horseshoes on a really hot afternoon (we went to school in the Midwest). At one point one of the guys sneaked around the side of the house, got the hose and he sprayed the girls with water hoping to create a bunch of wet t-shirts, which he did. Much to everyone’s surprise Karen just took her t-shirt off, wringed our the water by twisting it a bunch and tossed it on the fence. Did I mention she wasn’t wearing a bra? She stood there topless as if it was completely normal and even played a couple games of horseshoes before putting her shirt back on.

The guys loved it and encouraged the other girls to follow her example, but they kept their shirts on although they were wet, very clingy and we got a good look at the shape and hang of their boobs too, and of course they all had seriously hard nipples from the cold water. Karen even told them at one point they were being silly and should just take their wet shirts off, but they declined.

After a while Karen put her shirt back on. I asked her why she had ruined the view for us and she simply said, “because my shirt was dry”.

Classic Karen.

[HedoRocks]

We are not nudists, though we've been to Hedo a few times in the past. My wife is just very casual about her nudity. We have a large group of friends that do a lot together, backyard parties, biker rallies, etc... During those times it's not uncommon for a lot of the girls to be either topless or nude at times. My wife is no exception. She'll lose her top at the drop of a hat, and is in no hurry to put it back on. I guess that's casual nudity?

[jacksonhole]

Thanks Hedo, I’ve been reading your stories and looking at pics of your wife for years and I want to thank you for sharing and please let your wife know I think she is super hot!

My wife will also go topless at times, on a beach or if she’s in the mood in front of a few friends who have seen her before. But I either have to suggest it, or it has to be related to a game or a bet or a dare. And she always denies enjoying it herself, but says she very much enjoys that I enjoy it and that’s enough for her. I suspect that is mostly true but there are times I think she genuinely enjoys the attention.

Based on all the stories I have read on OCC, and my personal experience, I believe that there are a lot of women like my wife. There are also a lot of women (I am intentionally avoiding percentages because I have no idea) who genuinely enjoy showing their bodies and need little or no encouragement at all.

The rarest type of woman (again in my experience) is Karen. I spent enough time with her to know that she was not an exhibitionist, she really didn’t get any enjoyment out of being seen, she just didn’t care. I also discovered that she couldn’t be pressured into taking her clothes off by anyone or any dare or bet (believe me I tried). Nor did it have anything to do with alcohol, if anything I saw her body less when she was drinking because she became very talkative and opinionated when she was drunk.

If people care about this concept or thread, in addition to telling my Karen stories of nudity I will tell you about the conversations we had about how she became so casual about her “bathing suit parts” (that’s what her Mom had called them) being seen by other people.

[jacksonhole]

Partly because I hoped I would get lucky with Karen and partly because I found her fascinating (she was crazy smart) I started hanging out with Karen a lot more. We still hadn’t hooked up yet, and she still wasn’t giving me any signals, so I guess I was in the friend zone, but that also meant that we hung out a lot, studied together, went out to blow off steam together. Bottom line, she was at my place a lot, and I was at hers a lot.

Sometimes we would study for a few hours and then go out, and those were always the best times for me because Karen would bring a change of clothes and most of the time take a shower before getting dressed to go out. And Karen did both of these things differently than anyone I’ve known.

If she was just changing, she would suddenly decide she had studied enough and she would announce she was done working as she took off her clothes and would change right in front of me. Sometimes it was down to her underwear and other times she would also change her bra and panties, but once she decided she was done studying she was generally undressed within 2 minutes. She would walk around talking as she got dressed again regardless of whether she was naked, topless or in her undies. She also didn’t care if anyone else was in the room as my roommate discovered.

My roommates theory was that Karen was a lesbian, so she didn’t think of us as “guys”, we were more like girlfriends which is why she didn’t mind changing in front of us. I didn’t think that was the case, but it would explain a lot, so I went along with him on his theory.

A couple weeks later she was again at our house, but this time she decided she needed a shower before she went out. We only had one bathroom and while she was showering my roommate came home and really needed to take a leak. He knocked on the door and asked if he could come in, pointing out that the shower curtain was not see thru. She yelled “come on in” so he did.

Just after he put his dick back in his pants, Karen threw back the shower curtain open and stepped out dripping wet and naked and asked him to pass her a towel. He came out of the bathroom with his eyes wide and told me what happened. I shrugged and said that I wished I had to pee when he did.

When she came out of the bathroom a couple minutes later she was wrapped in a towel. My roommate asked her why she hadn’t just waited a minute until he left the bathroom before getting out of the shower. Karen paused for a moment and then replied, “Because I was done showering.”

Then she walked into the living room where her bag was, dropped her towel and started getting dressed. As she got dressed she asked my roommate (we both had followed her into the living room and were staring at her tits as she spoke) if she had made him uncomfortable in the bathroom or was making him uncomfortable now. He said no, but that if she had opened the curtain a few seconds earlier she would have seen his dick. “Oh, my loss then I guess,” Karen replied.

After that my roommate was no longer convinced she was a lesbian, and he also studied at home a lot more than he used to.

[Gnome72141]

I am not a nudist, but everyone I know has seen me naked at least once for various reasons, all non-sexual.

I totally understand Karen showing you her breasts and NOT having it be a moment where she was hitting on you. I, too, have shown people various things who ask or for various other reasons but not hitting on them. (But being male, I understand that people might say "but that's not the same thing!")

Anyway, the only situation that comes to mind right away is my mother in law. I have seen her naked dozens of times over the years (traveling, sharing hotel rooms, etc), but it's never, ever been sexual. Just casual, and she certainly isn't a nudist. Usually it's just changing clothes quickly, but one time after a shower after swimming she sat in a hotel chair on a towel totally nude for about 20 minutes. She was getting dressed, but she got an alert on Facebook and was distracted by that instead of getting dressed. She is in her late 60s but could pass for mid-to-late-40s if I told you that was her age, easily. Super perky, real C cups, too.

[HedoRocks]

Originally Posted by jacksonhole

Thanks Hedo, I’ve been reading your stories and looking at pics of your wife for years and I want to thank you for sharing and please let your wife know I think she is super hot!

Thanks jacksonhole! I appreciate the kind words, as does my wife!

[KarlMalone]

I had a friend kinda like that but I think there was a bit of an exhibitionist streak in her, plus she was kinda into me (we hooked up a few times) OTOH, she was kinda like this around other people too, so it wasn't just to impress me.

One night me, another guy and another girl were smoking something illegal and she said really wanted to take a photo on campus with a famous statue. We said sure, so she went to the bathroom and when she came back she was wearing her graduation gown. "Why are you wearing that?" we asked. "Because I'm not wearing anything underneath. I'm going to pose naked", she replied.

Sure enough, we went down to campus late at night, she whipped off the robe and stood starkers in front of the statue. This was before camera phones, we had a Polaroid and snapped a couple photos. They weren't sexy poses, more matter of fact, like "of course I'm naked on campus." She put her robe back on and we went back to her place, but when we got back she took it off again and just casually sat their naked while we talked.

Anyway, that kinda always sat in my mind (there was another night, a night that haunts me, where she called me and asked me to come out with her and her friend. I was tired and said no. Later, she told me they ended up doing a wet shirt contest. Guys, always say YES to a night out.) I have a bit of a public nudity fetish myself, so one night we were drinking and it was just me, her and her female friend. We passed campus and I brought up her naked photo session and joked we should go streaking. She was enthusiastic about it, so me and her went streaking (the other girl declined). We just casually walked around campus like it was nothing for a few minutes, then dressed and took off. We dropped the other girl off, and as I walked the exhibitionist back to her place, I started stripping in a joke fashion. She said "you're not going to have all the fun" and before I knew it she was stark naked too. We just casually walked around the neighborhood completely naked at 3 am, then returned to the porch of her apartment to smoke. A few people passed by - a car honked at us, a girl stopped by to bum a cig and just kinda laughed at our nudity. I kinda regret not at least trying something sexual, but in a way, its kinda better that we just sat innocently outside, completely naked and non-sexual (she did have a rockin' bod and we later ended up hooking up a few times as I said.)

As I said, I am a bit of a public nudity/casual nudity fan so when I was young I would try to worm that into as many drunken conversations with women as I could and I was really surprised how many would say they were up for it or had done something like that - sometimes as an exhibitionist, sometimes to flirt, but sometimes just to do it. Really shy, librarian types too!

[MFN]

Years ago there were no restrictions against nudity in the National Parks. However, many Rangers didn't know this, and arrested you anyway. You'd eventually get off, after they searched their regulations and couldn't find any authority to arrest you for nudity. This was a hassle. So, even though we were legal being nude we tried to not get arrested in the first place, even though we knew we'd be set free.

The Rangers usually didn't care if they saw you naked; but if some other visitor complained, the Ranger had to arrest you, unless they knew there was no legal basis. After a while, we realized that visitors might complain about a man (me) being naked, but never seemed to mind a good-looking woman (my gf, later my wife) being naked.

So, if we were on an isolated trail, we'd both hike wearing only our hiking boots and maybe a sun hat, but if we heard some one approaching I'd quickly don my shorts. Meanwhile her entire outfit remained in her small backpack. When we caught up to or passed the other hikers, we'd stop for casual conversation about the weather, conditions ahead, where we were each from, etc., all the time with my gf being the only one naked, just carrying on her part of the conversation as if clothed. Nobody ever complained.

We never did walk into a Visitor Center naked, although we had every right to. We just didn't want to push the limits too far.