Need an artist

[wildfang95]

Okay anyone reading this message, please listen i have an idea for a story and i need someone who can draw it for me if anyone is interested please post a little piece of artwork for me. Thank you for listening

[Belini]

Dude, you're not going to get free labor by asking people to post their work so you can field offers and grant someone the honor of working for you.

Compensate people for their time and efforts or do it yourself. Nobody has any incentive to create what you want otherwise.

[wildfang95]

Originally Posted by Belini

Dude, you're not going to get free labor by asking people to post their work so you can field offers and grant someone the honor of working for you.

Compensate people for their time and efforts or do it yourself. Nobody has any incentive to create what you want otherwise.

actually i'm just asking if people are interested if they are then thats great i only want to post it on this site anyway also my artwork is nowhere near good enough to post, plus its not like i'm going to be asking for a lot from people, and if certain people won't do it then thats their choice but who knows other people might want to.

[hotlicks]

Originally Posted by wildfang95

actually i'm just asking if people are interested if they are then thats great i only want to post it on this site anyway also my artwork is nowhere near good enough to post, plus its not like i'm going to be asking for a lot from people, and if certain people won't do it then thats their choice but who knows other people might want to.

why don't you post your idea and let us see if it's worth drawing.

[wildfang95]

Originally Posted by hotlicks

why don't you post your idea and let us see if it's worth drawing.

Alright but it may not be that good and it stills needs a few things to work out but here goes nothing there is a girl lead she is a very shy girl quiet long hair about 18-20 years old and she has a split personality who is an exhibitionist. (The main reason for the plot is for enf lovers) so the story goes with her constantly ending up in enf and naked infront of people due to her split personality.

Okay thats the basis i would love any feedback and ideas for add-ons but when i think of it i always think of manga/comic style drawings, also i haven't really thought of the whole cast of characters yet so it is still in the production stages

[sylvae]

Originally Posted by Belini

Dude, you're not going to get free labor by asking people to post their work so you can field offers and grant someone the honor of working for you.

Compensate people for their time and efforts or do it yourself. Nobody has any incentive to create what you want otherwise.

Hey, that's a bit unfair. The guy admits he has no artistic talent, but that he might have a good script for a strip. Reasonable viewpoint IMO. He's an amateur who isn't asking anything for his labour, and doesn't want to make any money out of it. He's just looking for a collaborator. If his plot appeals to someone who can draw and they want to do it, good luck to them both. If no one wants to be involved, fine.

[rtothel]

The artwork IS the project. It takes a good writer an hour or two to come up with a good storyline. How many hours do you think it takes to draw it?? 30 - 50 at the LEAST. Anyone could write about someone being naked. It takes a LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT to draw and ink it. Thumbnails, storyboard, pencil, color, ink and supplies. And what's the compensation? Your name printed behind his? Are you kidding me? People who don't make art have NO IDEA how difficult and time consuming it is. It's never easy. We just do it so often, we make it look easy. There NEEDS to be compensation for any artwork. Children's books, graphic novels, a mural on your bathroom wall. It takes a lot of time to make quality art.

[sylvae]

Originally Posted by rtothel

The artwork IS the project. It takes a good writer an hour or two to come up with a good storyline. How many hours do you think it takes to draw it?? 30 - 50 at the LEAST. Anyone could write about someone being naked. It takes a LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT to draw and ink it. Thumbnails, storyboard, pencil, color, ink and supplies. And what's the compensation? Your name printed behind his? Are you kidding me? People who don't make art have NO IDEA how difficult and time consuming it is. It's never easy. We just do it so often, we make it look easy. There NEEDS to be compensation for any artwork. Children's books, graphic novels, a mural on your bathroom wall. It takes a lot of time to make quality art.

I do comic strips as a hobby, and do both the drawing and the scripting. IMO if you want a good strip, both are important. Since I script partly "on the fly", I can't comment as to the actual percentage of time that I allocate to the artwork vs the storyline, and I do take your point that good art takes a lot of time. However, I do know that coming up with a good story isn't all that easy, and just as there are people around who can write great stories but have no artistic talent, so there are also people who can draw brilliantly but aren't so good telling a story. The guy who posted here may be one of the former.

And let's face it - the world isn't exactly overloaded with great ENF/EUF/Fetish strips, is it? I have the greatest of admiration for Jenny, Miss Truth, Cyberhell and others, but the field is hardly so crowded that we don't need any more people working in it. Anything that adds to the canon would be good news.

Personally, I'd want him to do more of the work than he's done so far before I'd even think about getting involved - maybe a proper storyboard rather than just a single paragraph, with a bit more detail, and a firm agreement to share the costs of materials, but hey, he admits it's only in the planning stage. Myself, I prefer writing my own stories, but there may be someone who'd love to do an ENF strip but is stuck for original ideas. Who knows? I think his post is a reasonable request. If the only artists who read it aren't interested, well fair enough.

Incidentally, is there any rule that the artist's name HAS to be after the writer's name? I thought the order was by arrangement between the collaborators...

[wildfang95]

Originally Posted by sylvae

I do comic strips as a hobby, and do both the drawing and the scripting. IMO if you want a good strip, both are important. Since I script partly "on the fly", I can't comment as to the actual percentage of time that I allocate to the artwork vs the storyline, and I do take your point that good art takes a lot of time. However, I do know that coming up with a good story isn't all that easy, and just as there are people around who can write great stories but have no artistic talent, so there are also people who can draw brilliantly but aren't so good telling a story. The guy who posted here may be one of the former.

And let's face it - the world isn't exactly overloaded with great ENF/EUF/Fetish strips, is it? I have the greatest of admiration for Jenny, Miss Truth, Cyberhell and others, but the field is hardly so crowded that we don't need any more people working in it. Anything that adds to the canon would be good news.

Personally, I'd want him to do more of the work than he's done so far before I'd even think about getting involved - maybe a proper storyboard rather than just a single paragraph, with a bit more detail, and a firm agreement to share the costs of materials, but hey, he admits it's only in the planning stage. Myself, I prefer writing my own stories, but there may be someone who'd love to do an ENF strip but is stuck for original ideas. Who knows? I think his post is a reasonable request. If the only artists who read it aren't interested, well fair enough.

Incidentally, is there any rule that the artist's name HAS to be after the writer's name? I thought the order was by arrangement between the collaborators...

Dude THANK YOU!!! i think you are probably one of the nicest and smartest people on this site. also do you think my story is any good i'd love to hear your opinion

[sylvae]

Originally Posted by wildfang95

Dude THANK YOU!!! i think you are probably one of the nicest and smartest people on this site. also do you think my story is any good i'd love to hear your opinion

To be honest, Wildfang95. I can't comment. What you've posted is really only the germ of an idea. It's certainly a good starting point, but as Belini quite rightly points out, artistic effort takes a lot of work, and I can't see anyone coming on board just on the strength of a single-paragraph synopsis. It's a bit like saying to a novelist "Here's an idea. Boy meets girl, she's an aristocrat and he's a stable boy. Knock out 200,000 words about that, and we'll split the byline."

My suggestion would be to extend your idea to an actual plot - exactly WHAT happens to this girl? WHY is she a split personality? How did she get to be that way? Is she a genuine multiple personality (ie are the modest girl and the exhibitionist aware of each other?) Give a few scenarios about her reactions when she turns back into the "modest" personality? And, perhaps most important, tell your potential partner just why your idea is such a killer one, and what sets it apart from anything the artist might come up with his/herself. One way to do it would be to draw the strip (or part of it) with stick figures and show this to anyone who agrees to consider joining forces with you.

I really don't subscribe to Belini's implication that you are some sort of parasite. I think you are a guy who has come up with what might be a good idea, but simply didn't know the correct form involved in seeing if it flies. I really hope that you can get something together, and that someone sees merit in it. Good scripts for strips are important (which is why pro comics credit the writer as well as the artist) and examples in our field are everywhere. Cartoon Joe is an artist par excellence, but how many would read his stuff without his hilarious plots and interesting backup characters (I'm in love with DaNeesha myself!)? Would Biker really have gained his present following without Jenny and Ashley being such interesting (and differing) characters? How many would have read Morphy's "Joanna C Mutchmore" to the end without the hilarious asides and brilliant dialogue?

I for one would be interested to see the strip if something works out. Best of luck, and hope this helps.