thanks, Eviltwin -
I sort of wrestled with the "voyeur" aspect of the nude beach candid for a long time. Use to be I collected "friends shooting friends" type beach pics and "nude beach candids" and kept them well separated. But after a while, it seemed they were more alike than different. After all, friends shooting friends pics often have candid nudes showing in the background. And topless beaches in Europe today are crawling with cameras out in the open.
Meanwhile, "true" voyeur content goes back to the old days - the pre-nude beach days. It goes back to the 50's and earlier, with peeping toms and the loyal upskirt and DB crowd. It was also seedier or shall i say, less reputable. Not that I am not a fan of it - frankly, I adore nipslips and DB's especially. But this all goes together in my mind and is distinct from nude beach photography.
But I think many would agree that what the E and V forum is about, and why we collect and post there, has very little to do with voyeurism in the classic sense. It has much more to do with wanting to live and practice the naturist ideal, and with the idea that body freedom and nudity in public is right and natural. I think that is the main reason why I have long felt that having the word voyeur in the title is unfortunate. I totally understand how it got there, given the long standing use of the term "voyeur beach" to describe nude beach candids. And without my obsessive nitpicker's mentality, there it would probably stay forever. In fact, knowing how some mods feel about my tendencies, it probably WILL stay there forever...

heh, heh.......I've been on the other side of the fence enough times to know how that goes. So......to the mods and everyone else - remember that I just had some extra time today to write, and that by next week I will have forgotten all about this. This is and will remain a wonderful forum regardless of how much I might wish to make it more "klondike-friendly". You've heard from me before, and you will hear from me again but you are the guys who actually have to DO things around here, not me. Anyway, thanks for listening..and thanks again for the great job that you do...
Klondike