[Cigar4u]

Hi SlickOne and others:

When I first wrote about Double Trouble I perhaps should have made it clearer that all of their matches, especially the CFNF wrestling videos, are staged and scripted.

When it comes to CFNF wrestling it almost would have to be.

Although I absolutely love watching videos of fights that end CFNF I am the first to admit they are mostly fantasy. In real life, it is very rare for one woman to be so much better than the other in a fight that she strips her opponent nude yet remains fully clothed.

An old girlfriend of mine who knew of my particular fetish used to debat me furiously over this issue. She argued that even in a one-sided fight, the losing gal would do just about anything – claw, scratch, rip clothing, gouge eyes, etc. – to stop a rival from defrocking her.

The same is true for these wrestling videos. That’s why so many matches that are unscripted start out CFNF and end NFNF. If a woman grabs your hair, you will grab hers. If she tries to pull off your top, you will go for hers. And so on.

So, for a professionally produced fight video to start off CFCF and end CFNF, the matches, in most cases, would have to be scripted and the winner and loser predetermined.

Then you factor in from where Double Trouble and other video companies get their “combatants.” The women who work for these companies primarily are porn stars, strippers and other adult entertainers.

They depend on their good looks to get jobs. They cannot risk agreeing to videotape a real catfight and risk disfiguring scratches to their faces or serious bruises to their bodies.

So for producers to make good one-sided CFNF fights, the matches have to be scripted. And actresses, even those of the porn variety, have the skills to follow a script and pull it off.

If a consumer does not like such scripted matches, then Double Trouble is not for that customer.

Another company that you point out in your post, SlickOne, is Arena Girls, a solid producer of fem fight videos that has been around for quite a few years. The matches look pretty real, especially the FM stuff.

And I agree with you, SlickOne, that the gals who work for that company are not adult film stars like Lisa Comshaw, Santana, etc., but rather young amateur women who probably were recruited off college campuses and do such videos to make a little extra money.

However, as a result, I have never seen a CFNF or CFNM match produced by Arena Girls.

It’s one thing to ask a couple of amateur gals in bikinis to roll around on a mat and put each other in head scissors while the camera is rolling, it’s quite another to have them follow a script that includes stripping, trash talk and humiliation-related scenes.

The gals are probably nervous enough doing the wrestling let alone asking them to go through the emotions that a stripped woman would have to do to really sell the scene as at least quasi-real.

That’s why I am a big fan of Lisa Comshaw. Her facial expressions, gestures and whining after being stripped are priceless. She really looks like an ENF during matches in which her bikini clad opponents humiliate her in the ring.

Where you might see in real life an actual CFNF encounter is the scenario Helen described in her account from a Philippine blog, where a woman named Basia walks in on her boyfriend and another woman who are nude in bed.

What a perfect time to deliver an ass whipping when your opponent is starkers and vulnerable and you are fully dressed.

But even in such situations, the naked woman, if she cannot escape to the bathroom and lock herself in, would put up a spirited defense by scratching and clawing and even try to strip her opponent to make the playing field more equal, so to speak.

The video posted to this thread recently of a woman in a towel fighting a fully clothed woman on a New York street is a prime example of this. Even after losing her towel, the near-naked gal put up a good fight with the clothed woman and held her own -- and arguably won the battle.

That to me was disappointing because I like to see the nude woman lose to the clothed woman in a one-sided, humiliating outcome.

So to get quality videotaped CFNF matches you often have to sacrifice quite a bit of reality to satisfy the spirit and the fantasy of the genre. And that means producing a well scripted encounter where both actresses – winner and loser -- know their roles and really sell their performances.