[Cigar4u]

I’m getting a kick out of the appearance that there are just three of us in the whole world who have this one fantasy. I really wish more people would weigh in on this thread.

But, because Helen and Frrio are so enthusiastic about the subject of CFNF fighting, I will be more than happy to carry on this conversation with just them for now. Anyone else who wishes to join in is more than welcome.

I’ll respond first to Frrio this time, then Helen.

Frrio I’m glad you found the Dynamite vs. Candi video, and yes that link indeed is where I first saw photos of that fight a while back. I believe I also saw additional large photos in a Yahoo Group.

I too plan to buy that video. I think that Helen hit it on the head when she said this video – if it lives up to its hype – is everything we are looking for in CFNF fighting.

You mention that you like scenarios or setups leading to a fight. If that’s the case, I have suggestion for you – Womans World Wrestling Tape SLV-334. There are two videos on this tape and both involve CFNF fighting. But the one with the great setup is called “No More Bad Bosses.”

Samantha is a boss who catches her worker Candy (a lanky brunette – not the actress in the Greeneyes Video) going to a gym to exercise during work hours. Samantha is wearing a shirt, shorts and bare feet. Candy is in a gold lame bikini and barefoot.

The two women argue over Candy’s goldbricking and then wrestle in the ring at the gym. The match is pretty even until Samantha gets the uperhand and strips Candy of her skimpy suit. Samantha then gives the naked and unconscious Candy a full-body shampoo.

The match ends with two other female co-workers arriving at the gym to see their fully clothed boss Samantha verbally disciplining a naked, kneeling and soaking wet Candy about goofing off during work time. The two women in dresses watch Candy’s humiliation at the hands of the boss. It’s a pretty neat scenario.

The other match features Jill Monroe beating and stripping and shampooing Zoe or Zora. Both start out in bikinis. Jill also “shaves” Zoe’s head. But the bald wig Zoe is wearing is so fake it is ridiculous. (She doesn’t even bother to put it on right and it looks like her skull is caved in.) The fight, however, is a good one-sided affair.

I anxiously await your review on the Candy vs. Dynamite video.

And now, to Helen.

I previosuly had read some of your stuff (Justica and the one about the pro wrestling league) on the Catfight message board. They’re all terrific stories.

I am going to take a wild guess that the Helen character is based somewhat on you and that Louisa is based on a former high school rival or even a good friend of yours. And I am going to assume your work is fiction – very good fiction.

What I like about your writing is that you paint a vivid picture of the combat. I can easily envision what is happening. So many writers try to explain complicated holds and the reader has trouble trying to figure out if one person is up or down or whatever. You, however, stick to easily explanable holds and maneuvers and thus the action flows smoothly.

What I don’t like about your writing – and mind you there is nothing wrong with what you do – is that you take a lot of time leading up to the fight by developing the characters perhaps a little too much. Then again, some people love that stuff. Others, like me, not so much.

For example, I love the fight in the story about the two sorority sisters. I had to however, work my way through the long setup. From the second paragraph on I knew there was goingto be a big fight between the two but it seemingly took forever to get to it.

Again, that’s OK because some people – especially women, I reckon – love that setup suff as much as they enjoy the fight description. Men primarily want the sexy details of the combat.

And sexy details you gave. I love the part where Lousia put on Helen’s clothes after knocking Helen out. And I absolutely loved how you had Louisa interpret that Helen was not yet naked because she still had her pubic hair – and how you had Louisa take care of that issue. Ouch. It hurt just to read it.

But my favroite stories were Castaway and Castaway Retribution because you really explored – and pushed -- the bondaries of CFNF fighting and humiliation and brought the story full circle with Helen getting revenge on Louisa.
And it was a nice twist with the nude Helen beating the clothed Louisa in the warehouse. Ordinarily that would not work, but the way you set it up made it work perfectly from a standpoint of a fitting revenge.

I’d overall rate your work as among the best catfight material I have ever read that fits my taste.

I do have a question for you, Helen. You seem to have a thing for the victorious woman burning the losing woman’s clothing. I also think that is so cool because it means the defeated woman has to remain naked and likely will have to go home that way. My thing however is the victorious woman keeping the loser’s clothes and shoes as trophies.
From a woman’s perspective (and I hope you are a woman as the name Helen would indicate, but on the internet you just never know), what’s your opinion about keeping another woman’s swimsuit or other article of clothing as a souviner as opposed to forcing her to burn everything she had on?

To answer your question about Sweet as Candi, you have to first join Yahoo Groops. That’s easy – it costs nothing. Go to Yahoo.com Groops and follow their instructions.

Because you cannot use the search engine to get to adult-oriented groups you have to kind of fool around and search ambiguous entries like women’s wrestling, catfighting, erotic wrestling, strip wrestling, etc. Then after viewing the photos and files in a group you join, click on the links for that group and that will lead you to more like groups, including those of an adult nature, you can join. Before you know it, you’ll have joined a hundred groups or more.

This site's adminstrators will not allow me to post a URL until I have at least 10 posts to this group.

As for my four-part story, it is on the femaledom.com message board. You can join the message board without joining the pay site. The board is free.

But I have to caution you Helen it is not the same type of fetish message board as this one. (I have more than one fetish.) In fact, femaledom.com is the ying to this site’s yang, dealing primarily with men as victims of embarassing situations, including being kicked in the balls and beaten up by women. I do not know if you are into that. If you are not, then I would not recommend you joining that message board.

The story is under the Ballbusting World category and is entitled “Ballbusting Aunt’s Triathlon.”
Written in the first person, it is a fictitious story about a teenage boy who is put through a grueling series of quasi-athletic tests by his aunt, who also is his domina mistress, and her female friend, the nephew’s former babysitter whom he despises. The tests serve as a means and competition for the older clothed women to attack the naked young man’s groin area.

The third chapter is somewhat garbled by font codes, but is somewhat readable. You have to go in several pages to find the first three chapters. The final chapter, which has a rewritten cleaner copy under the font-garbled one, comes a few pages later.

If you read it, let me know what you think.

Meanwhile, I’m giving some thought to the Jackie-Marilyn fantasy fight story. I have a little research to do, then I might sit down in the next couple of weeks – time permitting -- to write it and post it to a new thread on this message board.