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Originally Posted by RamsDixon
LOL so is mine..
This whole convo is starting to remind me of the old discussions we had in Usenet. The days before the trolls figured out how to type that is.
The biggest point to remember about all of this is it still is a really good set of pictures and vid. None of what we've talked about really matters, just cool that the forum allows and in some way encourages discussion. The discussion can and has possibly encouraged others post pictures as examples or to even start a new thread.
When I originally saved the pics in this thread, I put them in my nudist folder, not the candid, not the beach, not the voyeur folders. Even though I'd guess none of these people were really nudists. In fact after re-reading what all we've said here, In my eyes they probably should have been put in the beach folder, as it's not candid, voyeur, or really nudist. It is in fact on a beach. 
I do see what you're saying about being seen and being photographed and the difference. How many pictures in the covered threads (or ENF threads) have we seen that it's obvious the ladies have no problem being naked, or topless in a group of people, but when a camera appears, they cover or attempt to cover up? So yeah make sense. Plus I'm not trying to get anyone to change their mind as to what the differences are between candid or voyeur. I'm sure there are sites out there we could put up showing candid and voyeur are seen as the same thing in most peoples eyes anyway. I rarely argue one way or another whether a picture is candid versus voyeur except in my own mind and only to decide where to file said pic on my computer. |
It is an academic exercise, but as any lawyer knows, precise definitions of words are crucial in many lines of work. And even here - i got into a discussion once of whether the "Exhibitionist and Voyeur" forum was approprately named. I would think you might see my reasoning here when I made the point that really, there is already another forum for "voyeur" pics. So i wanted to change that name to something else.
"true voyeur" and "voyeur beach" are two terms that get used a lot in my folders. And "voyeur beach" pics go with other naturist pics, not with the other voyeur pics. For now, I don't plan on renaming them "candid beach" pics for the reasons I stated above. At least not until they start erecting signs at nude beaches saying "welcome, photographers!" - signed "the ladies of the beach" or something...
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