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Old 03-30-2008, 11:35 PM
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Are there many beaches in Spain where nudity is mandatory? How would something like that be enforced? By the local police. "You sir, the guy in the bushes, take off your pants now!"

As for the family naturism and the younger generation refusing to go nude, that is interesting as well. I can't imagine that any kids are sitting around applying peer pressure to their fellow classmates to not go nude at the beach when on vacation with the parents. (Also, I think it is wrong to force any kid to be naked who doesn't want to be.)

When I was in junior high school there was no shortage of girls willing to show off their new breasts. I remember sitting in the back of the bus and getting some real good looks as the girls would expose their breasts and pull their pants down to flash motorists behind the bus.

It seems really strange for societies all around the globe to be come more conservative when it comes to nudity. Conventional wisdom would indicate that the exact opposite would be occurring. Maybe the internet is causing nudity overload?

As for the Netherlands, I've read that the reason the authorities are clamping down on the red light district is because of human trafficking, crime, and forced prostitution. Even though prostitution is legal in Amsterdam, sex slaves are being shipped in from Eastern Europe and Asian and forced into prostitution by organized crime gangs.
regarding mandatory nudity - there used to be "cops" on the beach at cap d'agde that did just that - tell guys in the bushes to take off their clothes.

Many would see the conservative trend to be a "correction" after 40 years of "moral decay". Conventional wisdom does not say that societies must continually evolve towards a greater acceptance of nudity. There is no historical basis for that idea. In fact really, over the long haul, the trend has been in the opposite direction.

Nudity and societal wealth have a kind of funny relationship. With wealth comes enlightenment, education and liberal values but also contempt, bigotry and Victorian morals. The two seem to be constantly struggling for dominance, and I don't think one will ever completely win out.

I'll go out on a limb and suggest the real reason for attacking Amsterdam's red light district is (as usual) - REAL ESTATE. Yeah, they always say its the crime, etc but what it always seems to comes down to is property values.

And just where are all the pics from these junior high school bus rides anyway.....?
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