Menorca, you touched on several subjects I have wrestled with justifying in my head or in conversations with my wife. As you or anyone reading along can see a consistent boundry movement. When we first started by going to topless beaches or topless on the boat or being what I thought was accidentally seen by someone, I found it sort of erotic. By that I looked at it as, ok look at these beautiful tits, they are mine, you will remember them but not have them. I guess to an extent, I assumed I was in control and she was really embarrassed which gave me another reason to expose her. That was our life as I saw it.
At some point she started opening up with her past. At first it was just stories exposing a tit or tits and gradually moved to full nudity. The stories all were how the person seeing her was unaware she was doing this for her enjoyment. I would justify it as the same as being seen before and enjoy the stories. As the boundaries moved so did my thoughts on where is this going and how far.
I have always seen any form of purposefully touching tits or pussy as sexual. Same for touching a penis. In our earlier conversations it was a boundry that was not to be crossed. I guess through alcohol and justification that boundry was crossed first by incidental touch to purposeful. Then the ability to say, well that's happened so new boundry.
Not to belabor this concept, but we discuss in details our feelings and thoughts on everything. I try to post some of this but when I do, it reads as confusing to me as I'm sure others. The conversations always include our thoughts on our marriage. If my wife came to me today and said, I'm going to stop, I would not have any issues. She is very aware of my position in these activities. I'm support.
To Xavier and his wife. What has transpired with them is past my boundry I had set. His wife was drunk and actively tried to get me to penatrate her. I stopped that. Did I have the desire or urge to just slide a finger inside her, absolutely. In conversations with Xavier he has voiced the same. Not my wife trying to get his dick inside her but his finger. We both discussed this boundry and agreed. As for the mutual masturbation and his shooting what could only be called a full cup of cum all over her pussy, that was something I never thought about or considered would happen. Watching my wife masturbating, rubbing his cum over herself as she orgasmed was not something I ever imagined. I was not happy or unhappy about it just confused. My wife could tell.
Her fear of my reaction was not expected. We have had many conversations on this. Xavier and I have had many conversations about all. Some of this I believe is why Xavier and his wife want me to do the same with his wife. I have not said any of my thought as of yet to anyone on this, I just agree. My wife and Xavier took texting buckt list conversations and made one a reality. It's not one for me so in my head, what's the reasoning. That's a conversation I am going to have with all once I am ready. At this time I do not see it happening.
Sex. An absolute boundry for me. I have made it clear that sex is off limits. My wife is one hundred percent on board. Her only issue is alcohol. Would she let Xavier penetrate her with a finger? Giving the right circumstances I think she would. Would she allow him to penetrate her any other way one hundred percent no. Xavier. Would he do either? One hundred percent no. Xavier would not cross any boundry that he and I discussed. Even if she tried, no. I trust Xavier with my life as well as my wife. The only confusing part to it was when I told him about his wife's attempt his response was indifferent. When we discussed his wife stroking my dick and my almost losing control his response was indifferent. My wife and I have discussed all.
Our marriage is the most important thing to each of us. Her fear of my response that night and next day was all the proof I needed. I still support her desires for as she calls it her hobby. She receives a totally different thrill than I do. She will push safety and boundaries to get her thrill. My position is to keep her safe and enjoy the ride as much as I can.
As far as my boss and his wife. They seem to be enjoying exchanges with my wife more so than me. It's understandable to me. I'm an employee. We do not really discuss other than the invite to his place for boating. His wife and mine have set a tentative date of first week in August. In reading the text exchanges when my wife brings it up, it appears that both my boss's wife is more like my wife than first implied. She enjoys going out braless for attention and has no problems at all being seen naked. I'm not sure my boss was being completely honest.
Lastly, the nudism experiment is just not for me. Not that I have any issues with being naked or naked around others I just find it not for me. My wife is full on. She is constantly naked at the house or whenever she can be. She would absolutely love to move to a nudist community and be happy.
I know most of this rambles but it's a jumbled mess in my head sometimes and putting it in words is more than difficult. My description above was to explain the constant crossing boundaries and resetting along with basis of life. Told all, it's confusing in my head too.
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