[smegol12]

I think kopema makes valid points, but if you'll allow me to retort without taking it as a personal attack, I'd like to draw some comparisons. "Those pictures", a story on the ASN board, I apologize for not remembering the name of the author, extends ENF to what 1000 episodes?, which I would consider extended ENF. Now, my own personal tastes dictate that at this point I feel like the main character should be numb to it, and I don't care anymore that she's naked, partly because she spends literally DAYS naked, and that's where it loses it's appeal for me. Again, just my own personal tastes. Jenny, on the other hand, and even though I'm not a fan of the genre because the outrageous ways she loses her clothes sometimes are beyond my own personal suspension of disbelief(strong wind, mischievous boyscouts, etc.), I think it delivers in one respect. Jenny gets in a situation, gets naked, gets embarassed, gets dressed, repeat. I think Jenny or other main character could work at a job where an Enf situation arises, gets home, gets in another, goes out on the town, gets in another, gets pulled over by a cop, gets in another, etc. etc. I don't believe you have to think within the box and assume that it has to be "extended", and if you're just putting ONE situation and ONE result in you're video, sure, you're going to have to rely on the actress, and strong emotional, building plot, character arcs, and the like. Forget character arcs. They are a luxury. Your video is not dependent on them because it is a stroke movie. Yes, there are parameters you should shoot for, and you may hit a home run and get everyone to really care and feel like "they know " your Jenny. But it's not necessary, and should not be given more attention than the stories and fantasies that your fanbase would like to see. Babysitting's teacher is a flat character. She's uptight, and a teacher, period. We don't know or care about her childhood or what she likes to do in her spare time. You are not making "The Piano" here.. Heck, a waitress who's bar goes topless would get embarassed. Then, even if she's been working there for weeks, would be further embarassed by different guests she encounters, based on the backstory of the relationship she had with them. Example of this is "not another teen movie" when the girl is masturbating under the covers and her little brother comes in, followed by her parents, singin happy birthday, then her grandparents, and finally " Father O'Malley" her priest. Now that may be off the reservation for some, but it is an example of one Embarassing, if not nude situation, that IS in fact heightened and builds because of the story and relationships, if only played for laughs. The girl does not masturbate for the entire movie, nor is she a great actress. The setup, simple, yet effective, is funny because she is mortified, and it keeps getting worse and worse. For those of us with an ENF fetish, throw in some nudity, and that particular movie and scene would be at the top of the list around here, and it lasted under two minutes. Take the girl to school and have her have to model nude for art class, then her iniation to get on the cheerleading squad is to take a shower in the boys locker room which she THINKS will be empty, where she gets caught and taken to the principal's office nude, where her parents are called, where everyone decideds her punishment is to stay nude...goes to show you can mix and match several seperate situations or take it into extended ENF IF, IF, If the storycan support it. And now you're just talking one character...which brings be to ZAPPED!, which by some is considered on of the greats of all time. Telekenisis...and clothes fly off. While you don't really know much about the women losing their clothes because the story revolves around Barney, you do know a little. The snobby girl is embarassed at the prom. Then all the girls lose their clothes at the prom. Prior to this a few girls lose clothes, usually those that have been mean to Barney. Again, you can take Barney to various locations, with various women of various occupations. And TADA! you have several ENF "moments, several ENf buildups, over and over, linked together by a male main character. Or the unifying theme could be the location or buisness itself. A school is a great example, whether using nudity as punishment which I think lacks creativity...You could have the art model, students and or teachers playing strip games, punishments, accidental exposures, strip searches, you name it. Whether we witnessed a "near miss" of accidental exposure, heard about a female student who chose the spanking over detention, made a bet with a fellow female student, took a dare, or gazed day after day at that hot teacher...everyone one of us had some adolescent fantasy about the girls at our high school. Now if you're gonna tell me that a movie or short video that takes those elements and shows us what would have been our wildest highschool dream, whether it happens to one girl or many, for 30 seconds or 30 minutes, that scenarios aren't important and are just an after thought I have to whole heartedly disagree. I don't want to know what her favorite color is or care about her teenage angst. I would like to know if she's the teacher, the virgin, the snob, or the nerd. I would like her to be somewhere between reluctant and mortified. I would like to know who is seeing her naked and a little bit about why she should care more than if she was naked in front of a stranger. And last on the list I would like her to not to have to be a great actress to overcome the fact that she LOOKS like a stripper. Tattoos, piercings, goth, and fake tits make me think stripper or trashy. And that makes me think they don't care who sees them. I think getting bogged down with how great an actress she is and can you get her naked in the first five minutes, keep her that way, camera angles and amount of nudity is up to the director, and is not paramount, nor the only way to do things . Short sweet and to the point and all I want is one good shot fully nude, cause I have freeze frame. . On to the next scene. If it "extends" and builds, then that is just icing on the cake. If she lost a bet and has to get naked after school, you don't show her going to every single class. This is not an episode of "24", shot in real time. I've even seen mainstream movies that show a scene, and then subtitle, "Four years later", and the main character is tada! at a different job, or has a different haircut! Wow! The wonders of cinema! And alas, poor Jenny gets ENF four years later in a different SCENARIO in front of a different bunch of people. Anyway, A few classmates teasing our poor student as she walks down the hall, and then the crowd that gathers for the actual event is all you need to build up the tension. If you want to extend it from there, and she's gonna remain nude, you're gonna have to put her in a SITUATION that is even more embarassing than stripping in front of a group of her classmates... A bigger group? A location that is more formal where her nudity is more shocking? In front of someone she has a more intimate relationship or a more formal relationship with? You decide. I simply don't agree you should be on the search for a young Meryl Streep with 44d's willing to be tied naked to a pole for two hours. You can't put this on the shoulders of the actress. It's on the shoulders of the writers, directors, and cameramen. You have the director asking a group of fans, MANY of which are amateur ENF writers, and some that are filmmakers what would make for great ENF, and you're telling me to devalue the storyline? The bottom line is that we're not being given veto rights in the casting process, nor any say in the editing process. These things, from production quality to amount of nudity an actress will do is something that I personally believe is a waste of time to give my two cents on, because i believe the movie maker has to do what they have to do, regardless of my opinion. However, when it comes to storylines, I do believe my two cents can always be worked into the budget, shown in a way that is very exciting to me regardless of the camera angle or if I get as much "exposure" as I'd hoped for, and is not dependent on a great actress or one with no scruples. As for everything else, as far as I'm concerned, you might as well be giving advice on what kind of film the video should be shot on.