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Originally Posted by rick181au
So how did the full swap come about, under what circumstances did it happen? And was it with a couple around your age own age?
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I've posted this on here before ... The husband and I worked it out. When the four of us were together, it was obvious there was a lot of chemistry between my (then) wife and the husband. They were about the same age as us - maybe a couple of years older.
The problem was that the other wife wasn't really into it - it was clear the first time that she was a reluctant participant. That made the experiences un-even. The other wife and I were one-and-done ... and she was always in a hurry to get done.
The husband and my (then) wife were like bunny rabbits. While that didn't seem to bother the other wife, it bothered the hell out of me - and was one of the reasons we stopped. (There were other reasons.)
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Originally Posted by rick181au
When you say you played several times during your 14 year marriage was it the both of you playing together?
Jealousy, we have met some couples in our time where the other husband could not handle seeing his wife enjoying herself with another guy, once it actually became violent which was very upsetting.
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Yes - both of us playing together ... that was the 'agreement' we made ... anything was 'okay' - as long as we were both participating.
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Going back in the 80’s when we were really enjoying a very open marriage I hooked up with some guys who were into advertising in local sex papers that they were a group of guys for gang bangs for couples and women who were interested, we had a set of rules where one of the guys that did the organising would have to speak to the woman on the phone to confirm that she was a willing partner in the activity, come the night when the action started a few of the husbands could not stand seeing their wife enjoying herself with a group of other guys and talked their wife into leaving the party, we called it the talk all week to get the wife to attend, and all night to get her to leave syndrome.
My wife went with six of the seven guys in the group but only in threesomes with myself and another guy at the one time, she is not into gang bangs at all, I have seen her do things with other guys that she never did with me but it never really bothered me.
As for your X wife doing other guys when you were not around, what was the problem with that if you had an open marriage?
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I guess there are different definitions of 'open marriage' ... ours wasn't an 'anything goes' type of thing. The agreement was that we'd play together - but not separately.
When she started playing separately - and I found out - is when the shit hit the fan.
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Do you have any regrets about getting your wife involved in the situation to start off with? Or do you think she was just that type of woman anyway?
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Knowing what I know now - I think she would have played around anyway - if I hadn't been involved, she would have just cheated on me - a lot.