I don't know how this discussion wound up in this thread, but it is interesting to read. Wish there was an ongoing thread down in the non-fiction section for these kinds of observations. I made a few myself last week (nude beach reports thread).
Women want a) control and b) company. Those are the two most important factors IMHO dictating where or how many go topless or nude.
And maybe c) anonyminity. My observations at Sauvie Island (collins beach) support that, and I also noticed people saying above that German and British girls are still traveling and going topless in large numbers at vacation destinations (where they can be anonymous).
Collins is remote by California standards and so its a good place for vacationers to get naked. Numbers are still pretty strong as is the nudity. California beaches like Baker don't get nearly the nudity now that Collins gets.
And so it is still a well known fact: No woman wants to be the only one naked or topless on a beach while being surrounded by a bunch of horny guys. Witness the destruction of practically every nude beach in California.....
I regret reading these reports, but know that social nudity will never die. This phenomena is NOT social nudity or rather it is the ABSENCE of social nudity that causes women to flee the beaches! They still want to get naked socially, but BEACHES CAN BECOME LIKE CITY PARKS - public places where ANYONE can show up, and thus ruin the comfortable, social atmosphere! Probably this is why the indoor locations are doing better - there is more security there. Anyway, with Europe allowing toplessness virtually everywhere, they probably over extended themselves. I see a future where there are fewer beaches allowing nudity, but those beaches are well maintained, policed, and guarantee all women comfort and security..
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