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Fango 09-29-2009 01:46 AM

Hot Blonde Dared to Strip Naked
 
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This video is from the site Bragster that I posted about in Free Sites, but I'm reposting this awesome video here because I fear it won't get the attention it deserves there. If you don't have vid section access, you can still get the video for free at the link in Free Sites.

Anyway, long story short, for her last dare on the site, a girl going by the username tost decided to accept the dare "to get naked and film it". No pussy, but tits and ass = yes. Fantastic stuff, not only because she's hot as hell, but because she didn't chicken out and post a censored version. She totally went for it and posted a naked video of herself to the Internet, for all to see, all for a dare. Gotta love a girl like that.

Enjoy

Fango

Fango 09-30-2009 12:30 PM

Hey guys, if you liked this video, don't forget to click the thanks button or leave a comment. So far, it's been up for almost 36 hours, been downloaded 245 times, received 16 thanks, and no comments. This tells me that only 6.5% of the people who've downloaded the video actually enjoyed it (though I do appreciate the 16 thanks it's gotten).

Now, I hate begging for thanks, especially because, let's face it, most of the stuff I post is the kind of stuff that only I and maybe a couple of other people like. But this time, I'm a little confused, considering the hotness of the girl and the frankly awesome story to go along with it. And also considering the fair amount of attention this one received, a video which I don't consider to be too far removed from this one in terms of content (aside from lack of full frontal nudity and dancing).

Maybe I'm wrong, though. Maybe this one does suck and I'm just deluded (or maybe I'm just deluded anyway :p). But, you gotta let me know. If you liked it, let me know so I post more stuff like it in the future. If you didn't, heck, let me know that too. I'm not (just :D) looking for an ego stroke, I'm looking for feedback so I know whether I'm wasting my time or not. Either way, please leave a comment or click the thanks button.

Thanks

Fango

susansusan 09-30-2009 02:48 PM

Just to give my opinion here- it's certainly a cute video- and a nice dare- but the format- girl stripping off solo in front of the camera - is one that has been done many many many times before.

Not that there is anything wrong with that format, of course, but after a while so many similar videos do get "same-y"

Regarding this one specifically, the music is awful, and the girl is OK, but nothing special- she seems just a little bored- embarassed or nervous makes for a better clip.) Plus its brief and the nudity is limited. Had this been just a cam strip, and not a bragster dare, then it would probably have gone unnoticed amongst many very similar clips.


I'm not being negative, of course- just you asked for critique.


For sure, SOME clips in this format are genuine classics- like "Cutest Girl in the world strips naked- " That he a "certain something" about it.

Slick 09-30-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fango (Post 604900)
Hey guys, if you liked this video, don't forget to click the thanks button or leave a comment. So far, it's been up for almost 36 hours, been downloaded 245 times, received 16 thanks, and no comments. This tells me that only 6.5% of the people who've downloaded the video actually enjoyed it (though I do appreciate the 16 thanks it's gotten).

Now, I hate begging for thanks, especially because, let's face it, most of the stuff I post is the kind of stuff that only I and maybe a couple of other people like. But this time, I'm a little confused, considering the hotness of the girl and the frankly awesome story to go along with it. And also considering the fair amount of attention this one received, a video which I don't consider to be too far removed from this one in terms of content (aside from lack of full frontal nudity and dancing).

Maybe I'm wrong, though. Maybe this one does suck and I'm just deluded (or maybe I'm just deluded anyway :p). But, you gotta let me know. If you liked it, let me know so I post more stuff like it in the future. If you didn't, heck, let me know that too. I'm not (just :D) looking for an ego stroke, I'm looking for feedback so I know whether I'm wasting my time or not. Either way, please leave a comment or click the thanks button.

Thanks

Fango

I personally love stuff like this, I saw it first in the Free Sites section before you posted here but I hit the "thanks" buttons for both posts. Normally if I really like something I try to post a response or just a "thank you" but sometimes I forget to.

I know how you feel, not to take away from this thread but I feel the same way concerning the strip game stuff. I thought there was an interest in it. Only a few people have responded to it and it seems the more I post the less amount of "thanks" I get. That's the reason I've been so slow to post the stuff, do people just download it and say "oh that was okay" or "that was great, wouldn't mind seeing more" or "man that sucked". How do I know if nobody gives some feedback.

I think some of the best posters have stopped posting because of the lack of feedback. Not only here but in the photo sections. They either stopped posting or they're slow to post new stuff. I remember some people posting when I first started coming here that you never see anymore.

I'm not posting for the "thanks", I'm posting because I enjoy doing it, that's what the forum is for. But if there's no feedback or if you see a decrease in interest, why keep posting more?

Slick

susansusan 09-30-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickOne (Post 605008)
I feel the same way concerning the strip game stuff. I thought there was an interest in it. Only a few people have responded to it and it seems the more I post the less amount of "thanks" I get. That's the reason I've been so slow to post the stuff, do people just download it and say "oh that was okay" or "that was great, wouldn't mind seeing more" or "man that sucked". How do I know if nobody gives some feedback.

I love the strip game stuff, and always aim to give you feedback!

But yeah, I know what you mean about the lack of thanks. I occassionally post pics I've taken myself, and maybe get about 10 "thanks". It's always nice when some has something to say!

I think "the rub" is that may people are not inclined to say anything on the forums- which is a shame, as comments- good OR bad, are often useful.

jjanda_2000 09-30-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickOne (Post 605008)

. . . I think some of the best posters have stopped posting because of the lack of feedback.

. . . But if there's no feedback or if you see a decrease in interest, why keep posting more?

- I'll weigh in on this one. Fango, SlickOne, I respect you both and have enjoyed both of your posts for quite some time now. I would need more evidence before I can believe the first statement. People come and go on this forum for a wide variety of reasons, and my personal opinion is that most of those reasons are not a lack of "thanks" button pushing or gratitude posts. My personal posting has fallen off for some time now because my job has become so demanding. No other reason. I still have an unfinished HC Vid thread titled "Caught". I'm sitting on a bucketload of vids for that thread and just haven't had the time to prep and post them.

As for posting in spite of a lack of feedback or decrease in interest, neither matters to me. I upload because I download. No other reason. I never look at the DL stats for my posts and don't intend to start. If nobody posts gratitude to my threads and doesn't hit the "thanks" button, it makes no matter to me. As long as I'm downloading, I will continue to upload.

I understand that we all post and DL for different reasons. This is my perspective, posted only to offer one alternative explanation.

Slick 09-30-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by susansusan (Post 605024)
I love the strip game stuff, and always aim to give you feedback!

But yeah, I know what you mean about the lack of thanks. I occassionally post pics I've taken myself, and maybe get about 10 "thanks". It's always nice when some has something to say!

I think "the rub" is that may people are not inclined to say anything on the forums- which is a shame, as comments- good OR bad, are often useful.

And I do appreciate the comments. I would say both good comments and constructive ones are fine. As far as "bad" comments go, someone not saying anything or hitting that "thanks" button is enough. As the old saying goes "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". If everyone went around saying "man this thread sucks, just stop posting", a lot of people wouldn't bother posting. But I'm sure a lot of people like threads without saying anything, maybe I'm just asking for too much.


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Originally Posted by jjanda_2000 (Post 605032)
- I'll weigh in on this one. Fango, SlickOne, I respect you both and have enjoyed both of your posts for quite some time now. I would need more evidence before I can believe the first statement. People come and go on this forum for a wide variety of reasons, and my personal opinion is that most of those reasons are not a lack of "thanks" button pushing or gratitude posts. My personal posting has fallen off for some time now because my job has become so demanding. No other reason.

Well, I can't say the majority of people who have stopped posting is based solely on not getting any feedback or thank you's but I can say I've seen quite a lot of posters ask for replies or gratitude.

Now, these posts have happened more in the photo section than the video section but that's probably because more posts happen there than here. Once in a while you catch someone asking for some feedback or saying "so no thank you's on this post?" and then you don't see them for a while. Kind of just putting two and two together. I won't throw any names out there, but if you're here daily you'll see it once in a while.

As you said everyone has different reasons for posting, so getting feedback or gratitude could be two of them.

Sorry to Fango for turning this into a kind of "posting discussion thread", that wasn't really my intent, I was just ranting on the subject. :(

Slick

susansusan 09-30-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickOne (Post 605050)
As far as "bad" comments go, someone not saying anything or hitting that "thanks" button is enough.

As long as bad comments are well meant, then I think they do no harm. Indeed, most posts on this site are good. Occassionally there will be poor or inappropriate posts, something along the lines of "This really isn't suitable" could be appropriate. I'm not giving examples..... OK, I'll give one.... anything to do with bodily functions- spit for example- I find pretty sick, and would rather not see. As such if someone posts a thread with a title "Cool pics of a sexy girl" , and its spit pics, then I'd leave a negative comment. For sure, if the title made the content of the thread clear, then I'd not look at it in the first place.

Likewise, if a thread was male nude dominated, the female being incidental, irrelevant or clothed and in the background then I'd suggest perhaps this isn't the right form for the clip.

Likewise, anything political that I felt wasn't right I would leave a negative comment on.


The other type of posts that I might leave a polite negative comment on are prolonged "teaser" posts- usually of a clothed person "she is hot, wanna see more..." that never go anywhere...


However, of course, the vast vast majority of stuff here is great.

Fango 09-30-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickOne (Post 605050)
Sorry to Fango for turning this into a kind of "posting discussion thread", that wasn't really my intent, I was just ranting on the subject. :(

No problem. Actually, I'm glad we're having this discussion, even though we seem to have a similar one once or twice a year (and we have since this forum started) and nothing has really ever come of it. I thought that when the "Thanks" button was introduced a couple years ago, that would have solved the problem, but now the "click rate" seems to have fallen off quite a bit, which is what prompted me to write post #2 above. I just can't think of any excuse for that, since it takes zero effort to click your mouse on a button if you like something.

Susansusan, objectively I understand where you're coming from in that, on the surface, yes this is a fairly standard cam video. But what really turns me on about this one, aside from her (in my opinion) GREAT body, is the fact that she was dared to do it and she accepted the dare. It's really that aspect of it, the context over and above the content, that gets me. I've never seen something like this before, in my now 8+ years of online porn surfing: a girl dared by some anonymous Internet goofball to post a naked video of herself and who actually took him up on the dare. It was not 1. her initial idea to do a strip video, and 2. it wasn't a private video for her boyfriend that was stolen or maliciously posted or "innocently" placed on a public Photobucket. I've seen countless cam vids, and they basically all fit into one of those two categories. This one is like some kind of weird, new third category that, like I said, I've never seen before. She made this video essentially because she was asked* to do it and then she posted it, publically, uncensored, on a site that doesn't even specialize in nudie videos. That's just very, very sexy to me. And I thought it would be to more people, too...

* I just want to distinguish here from live webcam shows where the girls take instructions from the viewers. Those fall into category 1 for me, since it was their idea to do a webcam show in the first place.

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Originally Posted by SlickOne
I'm not posting for the "thanks", I'm posting because I enjoy doing it, that's what the forum is for. But if there's no feedback or if you see a decrease in interest, why keep posting more?

That sums up my philosophy to a T. I, too, have a fairly large cache of some very specific material that I've been reluctant to post since I know for a fact that it's the kind of thing that only a couple people here would be interested in. I want to post it, but at the same time, I don't want to do all of that work if there's little interest.

Fango

Slick 09-30-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by susansusan (Post 605064)
As long as bad comments are well meant, then I think they do no harm. Indeed, most posts on this site are good. Occassionally there will be poor or inappropriate posts, something along the lines of "This really isn't suitable" could be appropriate. I'm not giving examples..... OK, I'll give one.... anything to do with bodily functions- spit for example- I find pretty sick, and would rather not see. As such if someone posts a thread with a title "Cool pics of a sexy girl" , and its spit pics, then I'd leave a negative comment. For sure, if the title made the content of the thread clear, then I'd not look at it in the first place.

Likewise, if a thread was male nude dominated, the female being incidental, irrelevant or clothed and in the background then I'd suggest perhaps this isn't the right form for the clip.

Likewise, anything political that I felt wasn't right I would leave a negative comment on.


The other type of posts that I might leave a polite negative comment on are prolonged "teaser" posts- usually of a clothed person "she is hot, wanna see more..." that never go anywhere...


However, of course, the vast vast majority of stuff here is great.

Good point, those would be where a negative content could be warranted. Normally if a new thread does fill up with negativity (and it's warranted) it won't be around for long. Things that are banned from the forum etc. like you listed.

Slick

susansusan 09-30-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fango44 (Post 605069)
Susansusan, objectively I understand where you're coming from in that, on the surface, yes this is a fairly standard cam video. But what really turns me on about this one, aside from her (in my opinion) GREAT body, is the fact that she was dared to do it and she accepted the dare. It's really that aspect of it, the context over and above the content, that gets me. I've never seen something like this before, in my now 8+ years of online porn surfing: a girl dared by some anonymous Internet goofball to post a naked video of herself and who actually took him up on the dare. It was not 1. her initial idea to do a strip video, and 2. it wasn't a private video for her boyfriend that was stolen or maliciously posted or "innocently" placed on a public Photobucket. I've seen countless cam vids, and they basically all fit into one of those two categories. This one is like some kind of weird, new third category that, like I said, I've never seen before. She made this video essentially because she was asked* to do it and then she posted it, publically, uncensored, on a site that doesn't even specialize in nudie videos. That's just very, very sexy to me. And I thought it would be to more people, too...

Yeah, I agree - the context is fantastic- but on a personnal level (just my opinion- other folks I'm sure will feel differently), it's good, rather than great.

The background (the dare) is super- I dunno why, though, but the video itself just doesn't "hit the bullseye" for me.

marcello 10-02-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fango44 (Post 604900)
And also considering the fair amount of attention this one received, a video which I don't consider to be too far removed from this one in terms of content (aside from lack of full frontal nudity and dancing).

For me the full frontal makes a big difference. I seem to be in the minority here, but I'm starting to lose interest in all these girls that will only get topless and then claim they got naked.

Honestly there are enough gorgeous girls out there that actually show it all, that I just don't have time for the ones that will only go topless. There are rare exceptions, but only for the hottest of the hot.

I do appreciate your efforts though fango and I download many of your vids. I'm only posting something negative about this one because you asked. Normally I would just skip over it.

I am also going to hit the thanks button more in the future when I see something good in the caps.

masterthes79 10-02-2009 04:06 PM

I'm with marcello on this one, while the girl is very attractive (and hope I don't seem like a prick here), but I think it's a bit of a cop out to only go topless. I'm the kind of guy that thinks if you show your tits, why not show the pussy as well.

Fango 10-02-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by masterthes79 (Post 605854)
I'm with marcello on this one, while the girl is very attractive (and hope I don't seem like a prick here), but I think it's a bit of a cop out to only go topless. I'm the kind of guy that thinks if you show your tits, why not show the pussy as well.

Ok, so, question, if the thread were titled "Hot Blonde Dared to Go Topless", would that change your opinion of it any, or would you still be disappointed that there's no full frontal nudity? That is, are you more like marcello, in that anything less than full frontal bores you? Or were you just disappointed that the description didn't live up to the content ("topless" ≠ "naked")?

Fango

susansusan 10-02-2009 07:52 PM

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Ok, so, question, if the thread were titled "Hot Blonde Dared to Go Topless", would that change your opinion of it any, or would you still be disappointed that there's no full frontal nudity? That is, are you more like marcello, in that anything less than full frontal bores you? Or were you just disappointed that the description didn't live up to the content ("topless" ≠ "naked")?

Fango

I think all three posts above make very relevant points.

One one level, the actual level of nakedness isn't of great significance. I'm sure Fango would support this point- it's the CONTEXT that makes the clip good in some people's opinion- the dare, the looks, the attitude etc. The exact ammount of nudity on show isn't of great relevance.

Supporting this angle, for example, would be the remarkably brilliant strip done by a radio host in Penn, called Brianna. There was no ACTUALLY nudity on show, but the context was brilliant...

but then...

Others would argue that the more that is on show DOES make a difference. Full nude from behind has the edge over topless, full frontal nude has the edge over "implied" nude, and pussy/labia on show has the edge over the tamer full nude pictures.

In support of this would be the fact that most commercial sex magazines and websites DO show fuller nudity, including vagina shots. Also, most of the very popular softcore sets "vote for your favourite submission sites" tend to include shots in which the models labia is clear visible, especially if the model seems happy and confident.

As such, from this viewpoint photo 1 would be prefered over photo 2, which in turn would be prefered over photo 3, with photo 4 having the least appeal(the number of click to see the picture may give some indication of this) :

However, it could be counter argued that photo 4 was perhaps the nicest, as it was more of a "tease" that left something to the imagination.


(Finally, a note on British slang.. "has the edge over" means "Is prefered " or "is generally more appealling than", generally used when the items/situations etc being compared are relativley equal.)

Fango 10-02-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by susansusan (Post 605913)
I think all three posts above make very relevant points.

A very good analysis, and the "illustrated examples" were a nice added bonus. :D As is surely evident by now, I fall very much in the context camp, though I can certainly appreciate the mindset of those who couldn't give a rat's ass about what the video is about and just wanna see some pussy. :p

Fango

johnnycancer 10-02-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fango44 (Post 605878)
Ok, so, question, if the thread were titled "Hot Blonde Dared to Go Topless", would that change your opinion of it any, or would you still be disappointed that there's no full frontal nudity? That is, are you more like marcello, in that anything less than full frontal bores you? Or were you just disappointed that the description didn't live up to the content ("topless" ≠ "naked")?

Fango

Not that this question was addressed to me, but I figure I should get in here as well.

I think part of what I enjoy about videos in the "lost a bet" and "dare" genre is that, usually on some level at least, there's some kind of reluctance or hesitance on the part of the girl to strip (although, some of that I think is often just theatrics more than anything else) and yet, there's also some desire to expose herself as well. I think it's that tension between modesty and exhibitionism that I find sexy about these kinds of videos.

That said, there really isn't any of that erotic tension in this video, as far as I can tell. The girl, while certainly nice to look at, doesn't seem to be very conflicted about what she's doing. And, at least from my perspective, she seems to do it rather mechanically. I think when others have commented that it seems like "just another cam video" this is what they're referring to; that she appears to just be going through the motions rather than really having the experience of following through on a dare. This isn't helped by the fact that she keeps glancing off camera for the whole video and while I'm sure it's because she's watching her movements either in a mirror or on a computer screen, it just makes her look distracted and disinterested, like she gets naked on camera all the time. So, the erotic tension I would normally expect from a dare video just isn't there.

So, what's wrong if there's no erotic tension, we still like girls with exhibitionist tendencies, don't we? Sure we do. But, this doesn't really feel like a webcam exhibitionist video either, primarily because it feels very calculated to expose just the parts that she wants to expose. I think we've all seen enough cam vids now to know that it is indeed possible to get your whole body in the frame without having objects conveniently blocking certain portions of your anatomy. So, the position of the camera and the fact that her movements do seem (to me at least) to be very planned out to keep her pussy out of the shot detracts from the exhibitionist value of the video.

Does the lack of full frontal nudity ruin it? Not really. I mean, I would prefer full frontal nudity since she was "dared to strip naked" but, it's not the lack of nudity itself that bothers me. It's a bit difficult to verbalize, but, if, for example, she had stripped but kept her hand over her pussy, or held some kind of object in front of it (pillow, stuffed animal, towel, whatever) I wouldn't have minded because that because 1) that seems more honest to me, and 2) it demonstrates that she's actually emotionally involved in the dare because she's reacting to her exposure. But, playing with the angle of the camera and choreographing your movements strikes me as more of a tease than anything else - not a tease in the sense that we don't see any skin - it just feels scripted when what I want to see is her reaction to everything.

In short, the lack of tension and spontaneity just don't make it a very good "dare" video, in my opinion, or a very good webcam exhibitionist video either; it's just another average cam video that happens to have an interesting back-story.

It's not a bad video by any means and I definitely clicked the "thanks" button without hesitation when you posted in the Free Sites section and when you posted it here. I just didn't comment because I didn't have anything particularly positive to say about the video itself.

I am glad you posted it though, because it is a dare video and I like seeing girls doing naked dares, even if they don't turn out exactly like I would want them to. So, it's not a situation of "thanks, but no thanks" by any means. It's more like getting a tie as a gift. Did I need another tie? Not really. But will I wear it? Sure.

johnnycancer

Fango 10-02-2009 08:57 PM

Thanks for your honest assessment, johnnycancer. If it helps any, on her bragster page she wrote "Dislikes: nothing!!! just no naked bullshit". I assume this means that up until her "last brag", she wasn't willing to do any naked dares, but decided to accept this one as a grand finale/thank you to her fans. Also, along with being in the "context" camp, I've always been in the "tits are better than nothing" camp as well, so the lack (even the choreographed lack) of full frontal nudity doesn't really bother me. If she had undressed, but somehow stayed completely covered up, then it might have bothered me a bit, but the fact that she bared her tits and ass is good enough for me.

Fango

masterthes79 10-03-2009 02:06 AM

The last part of your statement is where I fell in. Just my level of expectations were. If it was just topless, I'd still watch it because she is of the femine type. It was just not as special to me as it was to you. Like you, I've seen countless clips of women stripping in various forms of undress. Maybe I've seen so many that the only thing that gets me really excited is when a girl goes the full distance? Or maybe I just didn't find her as attractive as you did

jjanda_2000 10-03-2009 09:37 AM

- Context. Mentioned so many times in this thread, and seems to be the common element that swings the vote (aside from truly offensive material in any context). Apparently many here share my opinion that context can override content in many, if not most posts. The problem comes when we try to quantify that element.

I call it a problem because I am unable to completely articulate the elements and nuances of the 'context' factor. I don't fully understand them myself. I am much more affected by upshort spics that by upskirt pics. I have no idea how to explain that - it just is. If the view (undies or not) is exactly the same, I can blow by the upskirt version, but will always pause to enjoy the upshort version.

Susansusan offered the four sample pics and I agree with his ranking of content. Now add context. If the pics are offered as a guy posting shots of his GF, I find them very hot. If they are posted as a part of a photoshoot by a porn star for her own web site, then my interest is considerably lessened.

For me, personally, context is very often more important than content.

codyman 03-29-2010 01:12 AM

Fango as always Awesome post !! thanks

french1e 03-30-2010 12:20 AM

thanks for the vid fango, love your work as allways ;-)


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