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Klondike 03-26-2009 01:59 AM

South American Indians
 
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I was hoping for some info to go along with these pics - I have no idea what country they were taken in or the name of the tribe. I've seen a few pics like these before, where women and men are parading naked in some sort of festival. But these are better than any previous ones I've seen, and the whole gallery is good (linking would get you kiddies, unfortunately, so i can't do that).

This is kind of an interesting look into another culture, and the women are clearly aware of the camera in some of the pics. Some are experiencing shyness and there is a little ENF to go along with some of these pics. That makes this set all the more intriguing to me.

enjoy,

Klondike

Klondike 03-26-2009 02:20 AM

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the other pic I have of this single file parading of naked women shows younger women, so I cannot post it. Interestly, what appears to be a type of g-string worn by the women above is not in evidence in my other pic - in that pic, nothing goes under the crotch - the bottom is more like a belt. So...did they become more modest or do the younger girls get to be more fully naked? :)

the pics below are likely from the same tribe. I imagine they do not parade around like this all the time, but only on festival day? Who knows....

the rest of my pics from this tribe contain kiddies...

EDIT: two more pics bite the dust as they also had kiddies. It looks as though the younger members walk first in line, and age increase as you go front to back perhaps.

Klondike

sabberer 03-26-2009 03:30 AM

WHOW
 
what a great post!!!!

Fred6027 03-26-2009 05:09 AM

This is an interesting post , from an anthropoligical viewpoint , Klondike.

It is quite possible that this is the Mandango tribe of the lower Andes Valley - - - whom are known for their extreme hostility to foreigners .

Example - the taking of a " photograph " , or " picture " is thought to be capturing the ' essence of the soul " , or - capturing the spirit inside the confines of the camera ...

Thus , in most cases , strange camera people are set upon by the women of the tribe , and beaten with large sticks - - - either that , or the warriors of the tribe ( shown armed with the ritual large blow dart gun ) will blow a poisonous dart into the buttocks of said photographer , at which time he will die a slow and painful death - - - unless he ( or she ) is able to make their way back to safety , and the poison is able to be sucked out by one of their compatriots .

I am only pre - supposing that this is the case , and the photographer was able to make their way back to safety , and thus , we are able to enjoy this rare and wondrous glimpse into the fascinating lifestyle of the Mandangoes ...... :)

higeek2000 03-26-2009 03:07 PM

Its the Yawalapiti tribe. They are from South America. There is a travel channel show called Tribal Odyessey that is on from time to time. They are in one of the episodes.

I haven't found very many pictures of this tribe, so its cool you found some.

xman59va 03-26-2009 03:39 PM

Fred..........hahahahaha

Klondike 03-26-2009 06:37 PM

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thanks, Fred :)

Tell me, will they shrink my head if i venture down there with my camera? Its pretty small to begin with, and I'm kind of worried...

Anyway, I've got some tribal info now, some by pm - and have found some more pics.

cheers,

Klondike

flanker7 03-26-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by higeek2000 (Post 525876)
Its the Yawalapiti tribe. They are from South America. There is a travel channel show called Tribal Odyessey that is on from time to time. They are in one of the episodes.

I haven't found very many pictures of this tribe, so its cool you found some.

Was the Tribal Odyssey episode you saw censored? I found it online a long time ago, but it was censored, which while educational, made it much less interesting to watch it. If it was uncensored, any chance of getting a copy of it?

Klondike 03-26-2009 06:48 PM

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one more. Klondike

squizzlydiddly 03-26-2009 07:23 PM

South American Indians
 
Interesting thread indeed! Not for the images themselves but for the content.

I suppose "oldcrow" has right. I believe that tribe lives in Brazil in the Amazonas-regions. I've seen photographs of XINGU Indians and they look quite similar with their tattoes and bodypaint. I'm not sure if those ones belong to the same tribe...could be.

Thank you

:)

crispus 03-26-2009 07:54 PM

Xingu is apparently correct (for the first several: all the pictures I checked) since that's the name they have at Flickr; that's apparently, though, only a generic term for any of the tribes (Kayapo, Suya, Juruna, Trumai: credit to amazon-indians.org) living in the Xingu Indigenous Park area...

Klondike 03-26-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crispus (Post 525974)
Xingu is apparently correct (for the first several: all the pictures I checked) since that's the name they have at Flickr; that's apparently, though, only a generic term for any of the tribes (Kayapo, Suya, Juruna, Trumai: credit to amazon-indians.org) living in the Xingu Indigenous Park area...

Xingu is the name of the river that runs north to south into the region. Presumably, all of the various "Xingu" tribes live along the river.

Klondike

vulcanize 03-26-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by higeek2000 (Post 525876)
Its the Yawalapiti tribe. They are from South America. There is a travel channel show called Tribal Odyessey that is on from time to time. They are in one of the episodes.

I haven't found very many pictures of this tribe, so its cool you found some.

Yup. And the ritual is called Yamurikumă.
:)

Klondike 03-26-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vulcanize (Post 526026)
Yup. And the ritual is called Yamurikumă.
:)

that'll net you 6 additional nice pics at Flickr that are copyrighted so I can't post them here.

Moving on to a closely related Xingu tribe, these pics are of the Kuikuma tribe. Note the women are a bit more "civilized". Oh well.....blame some American or Brit probably...

Anyway, then I have a few more pics of some misc tribes. Knowing tribe names is very helpful in finding pics. A couple other tribe names to search on are the Bora, Matis, Yanomani and Arawete. Also, since we're talking South America here, try the spanish words for indian and tribe, "indios" and "tribo".

KLondike

Klondike 03-26-2009 11:41 PM

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some misc SA indian pics. I made note of the fact that some of these don't look that much different from pics of hippie and alt girls at various festivals in Europe and US. I mean, its all about tribalism - the mud people, rituals etc at most of these festivals. if you have any doubt about that, see my last pic, which is NOT an indios pic but is probably the most tribal looking of the lot :)

Klondike

nitro 03-26-2009 11:50 PM

I have posted a few of those pics before.... they are a Amazon tribe.


-Nitro

Klondike 03-26-2009 11:51 PM

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Oh yeah, back to the original tribe I first posted - here are a few more pics. KLondike

pennywiseguy2 03-27-2009 05:44 AM

Go Xingu
 
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And I thought I was the only one with any interest in this kind of thing ....

How about this series?

pennywiseguy2

pennywiseguy2 03-27-2009 05:52 AM

more
 
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more Xingu

pennywiseguy2

pennywiseguy2 03-27-2009 05:55 AM

more
 
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More Xingu

pennywiseguy2

pennywiseguy2 03-27-2009 06:04 AM

some more
 
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Xingu

pennywiseguy2

pennywiseguy2 03-27-2009 06:08 AM

yup, a few more
 
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enjoy

pennywiseguy2

pennywiseguy2 03-27-2009 06:12 AM

and lastly....
 
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pennywiseguy2

Klondike 03-27-2009 08:59 AM

Dang P - those are awesome. :) Looks like I was just warming up the audience for you.

I'm not getting filenames any more with this browser I'm using, so i can't tell if those are Flickr finds. I spent a few hours combing Flickr last night and didn't come up with these, so I'm just curious as to how they were tagged if they were from Flickr.

again, great posting - and with blur jobs like yours, we could get a lot more pics up. I've got quite a few more that ain't going anywhere unless I beam a few little ones aboard the Enterprise first like you did.

BTW - better beam this little one up, too:

https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/atta...2&d=1238148670

Klondike

pallinaama 03-27-2009 09:29 AM

How come the ladies are all shaved?

Odysseus 03-27-2009 12:52 PM

They may not have pubic hair in the first place

pennywiseguy2 03-27-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Klondike (Post 526178)
Dang P - those are awesome. :) Looks like I was just warming up the audience for you.

I'm not getting filenames any more with this browser I'm using, so i can't tell if those are Flickr finds. I spent a few hours combing Flickr last night and didn't come up with these, so I'm just curious as to how they were tagged if they were from Flickr.

again, great posting - and with blur jobs like yours, we could get a lot more pics up. I've got quite a few more that ain't going anywhere unless I beam a few little ones aboard the Enterprise first like you did.

BTW - better beam this little one up, too:

https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/atta...2&d=1238148670

Klondike

I think that they might have been picassa finds? Definately not flickr though.

I've seen such bad editing of images, with scribbled faces etc, that I figured a blur was the least obtrusive / offensive method. It also allows (I hope) images to be posted, that otherwise couldn't have been.

That link doesn't work, so I'm not sure what image you are referring to. I guess it's already been removed, so it doesn't really matter?

pennywiseguy2

Klondike 03-27-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywiseguy2 (Post 526328)
I think that they might have been picassa finds? Definately not flickr though.

I've seen such bad editing of images, with scribbled faces etc, that I figured a blur was the least obtrusive / offensive method. It also allows (I hope) images to be posted, that otherwise couldn't have been.

That link doesn't work, so I'm not sure what image you are referring to. I guess it's already been removed, so it doesn't really matter?

pennywiseguy2

Yup - its gone. Woman holding a baby. I figure I could add another 15-20 pics to this thread after doing some blurring.

Smugmug, Pbase, picasaweb. I will throw that Xingu term in all of those. This is the best tribal nudity IMHO

Klondike

gringuito 03-28-2009 05:45 AM

Tribal/indigenous, maybe.... remote & uncivilized, probably not
 
Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but the majority of the photos taken here are done, well, for show. :-)
I have traveled abroad quite a bit and have visited a few of these. A couple of these photos I recognize from bora bora, near Iquitos in Peru. I have even spoken with a few 'tribal members' who speak a fair amount of English, which is mandatory in schools there.

The dances are performed at encampments arranged to appear like isolated camps. These encampments are normally located outside the town/city. The women in the photos are paid to perform in the rituals/dances. Quite commonly, afterward, they dress up and with their friends go shopping or dancing in the nearby city. You might have noticed some have tanlines, clothing markings and such. The dances are planned, choreographed, and even advertised to tourists.

Just a note, the truly isolated indigenous camps we all remember sparking our curiosity as boys from natl geographic who actually hunt with spears, live and dance in the nude, etc are VERY difficult to get to (say a matter of days by river and hiking). They don't speak a word of spanish or portuguese (much less english) are nervous with outsiders and cameras, and some can even be a little dangerous. However, a big thanks, the photos are fantastic!

big08 03-28-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gringuito (Post 526535)
Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but the majority of the photos taken here are done, well, for show. :-)
Just a note, the truly isolated indigenous camps we all remember sparking our curiosity as boys from natl geographic who actually hunt with spears, live and dance in the nude, etc are VERY difficult to get to (say a matter of days by river and hiking). They don't speak a word of spanish or portuguese (much less english) are nervous with outsiders and cameras, and some can even be a little dangerous. However, a big thanks, the photos are fantastic!

Plus the fact that they all have perfectly shaved pussies.

Klondike 03-28-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gringuito (Post 526535)
Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but the majority of the photos taken here are done, well, for show. :-)
I have traveled abroad quite a bit and have visited a few of these. A couple of these photos I recognize from bora bora, near Iquitos in Peru. I have even spoken with a few 'tribal members' who speak a fair amount of English, which is mandatory in schools there.

The dances are performed at encampments arranged to appear like isolated camps. These encampments are normally located outside the town/city. The women in the photos are paid to perform in the rituals/dances. Quite commonly, afterward, they dress up and with their friends go shopping or dancing in the nearby city. You might have noticed some have tanlines, clothing markings and such. The dances are planned, choreographed, and even advertised to tourists.

Just a note, the truly isolated indigenous camps we all remember sparking our curiosity as boys from natl geographic who actually hunt with spears, live and dance in the nude, etc are VERY difficult to get to (say a matter of days by river and hiking). They don't speak a word of spanish or portuguese (much less english) are nervous with outsiders and cameras, and some can even be a little dangerous. However, a big thanks, the photos are fantastic!

Interesting.

Looking back at some of Pennywiseguy2's pics, I notice spectators (one looks like an American with a camera), cars, sound equipment, etc. Not what you would expect to see on an anthropological visit.

Question - so the performers are really Peruvian indians and not Xingu indians? Those aren't wigs they are wearing, are they? Also, the presence of children is curious but I guess they are going all out to make it look authentic.

Because there is so much nudity here, one wonders about the sponsership of this and the "why's". One theory might be that they hold these because they don't want Peruvians hungry for this type of "entertainment" to bother the "real" indians and take long and risky journeys into the amazon. Or they just want to make some money in which case they would charge admission. It doesn't appear to be so well attended though that you could see anyone getting fat off of this. But I guess even a few tourist dollars can go a long way in a poor little town.

Klondike

Fred6027 03-28-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gringuito (Post 526535)
Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but the majority of the photos taken here are done, well, for show. :-)
I have traveled abroad quite a bit and have visited a few of these. A couple of these photos I recognize from bora bora, near Iquitos in Peru. I have even spoken with a few 'tribal members' who speak a fair amount of English, which is mandatory in schools there.

The dances are performed at encampments arranged to appear like isolated camps. These encampments are normally located outside the town/city. The women in the photos are paid to perform in the rituals/dances. Quite commonly, afterward, they dress up and with their friends go shopping or dancing in the nearby city. You might have noticed some have tanlines, clothing markings and such. The dances are planned, choreographed, and even advertised to tourists.

Just a note, the truly isolated indigenous camps we all remember sparking our curiosity as boys from natl geographic who actually hunt with spears, live and dance in the nude, etc are VERY difficult to get to (say a matter of days by river and hiking). They don't speak a word of spanish or portuguese (much less english) are nervous with outsiders and cameras, and some can even be a little dangerous. However, a big thanks, the photos are fantastic!

whoa !! This is quite a let - down , dude :(

It IS still quite a show , though :)

P2003 03-28-2009 04:48 PM

Thanks for these, they're fascinating. Can someone post the original link?

squizzlydiddly 03-28-2009 08:40 PM

South American Indians
 
Hello,

i've found this article on the www. Link: http://www.bizarrebrazil.com/2007/04/

There's just one picture inside...wouldn't post it because it is watermarked.

Women’s party

This kind of feast is rare, and has no precise time to happen (this one happened in 1974). One day Takuman, the page (chief of the tribe*) after take care of a sick man who was almost crazy of pain and seeing monstrous women, decided that it was time to provide this special party called Yamurikuma, where only women take part. They sing, dance and fight like man. At the end of the party they all bath at the river. We could say, they become Amazonas** for one day!

* Kamayura tribe (National Park of Xingu, Brazil)
** the legendary Amazon women warriors

squizzlydiddly 03-28-2009 08:53 PM

South American Indians
 
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Found this fine image:

Mehinako Indigenous People , Xingu , Amazon rainforest , Brazil
Two girls washing in River and group of women bodypainting.

Klondike 03-28-2009 09:05 PM

what separates this from most tribal nudity is the way the naked women often gather en masse. Its just part of the tradition and you don't see this in African tribal pics or anywhere else. Kinda cool..

Klondike

squizzlydiddly 03-28-2009 09:26 PM

South American Indians
 
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Here some very fine photographs of South American Indian women from different tribes.
All are from Brazil. Found on this website: http://www.flickr.com/photos/klausdg...7606165986019/
The site gives good informations about the tribes and their territories.

Hope you appreciate them! :)

squizzlydiddly 03-28-2009 09:39 PM

South American Indians
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Klondike (Post 526765)
what separates this from most tribal nudity is the way the naked women often gather en masse. Its just part of the tradition and you don't see this in African tribal pics or anywhere else. Kinda cool..

Klondike


Yes Klondike, that's true. And for those people nudity is a completely natural part of their lives and way of being. Not as for most other cultures on this world. I've seen a movie about this not long ago, where a spanish missionary was sent to South America to a tribe. He was somehow shocked and fascinated too by their very natural behaviour with nudity and sexuality. But he was mentally confused and split up, and at the end he got mad. The church dogma again distorted his natural perception and attitude.

tainted 03-28-2009 09:43 PM

There was a show on the BBC a couple of years ago called Last Man Standing where they sent a group of athletes to South America to fight in the village wrestling tournaments. The native girls in the background were lined up naked exactly like these in the photos (didnt see a huge amount though). But fighting and nudity is definitely a great combo! ;)

Klondike 03-28-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tainted (Post 526776)
There was a show on the BBC a couple of years ago called Last Man Standing where they sent a group of athletes to South America to fight in the village wrestling tournaments. The native girls in the background were lined up naked exactly like these in the photos (didnt see a huge amount though). But fighting and nudity is definitely a great combo! ;)

mmmm.....a vid would be nice. :)

I think the Peruvians are definately trying to "one up" on the tourist trade....

Klondike


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