Face vs. No Face: A Survey
 

Something I'm curious about and I'd kind of like to get a general consensus. Will you download and/or save a picture without the woman's face in it, either cropped out or censored? I, personally, will not. A body without a face is just a hunk of meat to me: I just don't find anything sexy about it. Yes, the nude female form is always a turn-on, but it's the face attached to that body that's what's truly sexy, and what makes every woman truly unique (except for identical siblings :p). But, I'd like to know how others feel about the subject. Feel free to vote in the poll above and/or post a written response.

Thanks

Fango

I voted no. A random, headless body picture does nothing for me, personally, regardless of how nice that body is.

it depends.
Nothing wrong with hiding someones face. the only thing I dont like is when its badly done with a paint program. An ugly pink block slapped onto an image, or nasty specks of yellow blobbed all over. People should try wearing a mask (not a gorilla mask :p) or covering your face with your hand or turn away from the camera, but please dont use paintshop, please! :D

I pretty much agree with the prior message. I can understand why some people do not want recognizable erotic pics to go out on the Internet; yet they want to share. On the other hand, cutting off the head or covering the face in some clumsy fashion most certainly reduces its erotic nature, and I generally don't bother with such pics.

This survey is uniquely timely for me.

A young lady friend/colleague was looking over my shoulder as I was perusing OCC in my office. If her SO would agree, she expressed an interest in appearing in a photo gallery, but her face had to be hidden for the usual reasons.

I personally do not care for disembodied genitalia, blacked out heads etc. A single vagina ultra close-up pic may as well be an arm pit picture. It is the context of the video/photo that interests me. Obviously, many others like those shots, but they just hold no interest for me. Thus, when my friend gave me two crotch only photos to post, I was pretty disappointed.

I guess that my face reflected my opinion of her photos. I inadvertently hurt her feelings. It took courage for her to show the photos to me. From her perspective, those crotch shots represented the manifestation of a heretofore very secret fantasy, to be a wanton exhibitionist. The thought of secretly exposing her vagina to hundreds, perhaps thousands of total strangers was consuming her. And I ruined her buzz by not being excited about the photos.

How does one explain personal tastes, sexual influences etc.? I attempted to explain how I felt in 100 words or less, but knew that I was not that persuasive. She felt somewhat humiliated that I was not turned on by her pictures. I tried to recover but it did not really work. So, with a sigh, I agreed to turn one of her pictures into my avatar. It would have to be modified from a static crotch shot, but more folks would probably see her vagina/avatar than in a "look at my cha-cha" post. She did not care how I modified the photo as long as her vagina stood out (another sigh). So, my new avatar is my colleague's pussy, semi-artfully disguised as a crystal ball vision. (sigh 3) She loves it.!?! I've begun calling her my avatart.

What I learned from this is that MOTIVE is the context for some folks. The boring crotch shot took a great deal of personal courage. I still do not like those types of photos, but I am more understanding about why they happen. I am now lobbying for the privelege of taking some better pictures, if her SO will agree.

As an afterthought, it occurs to me that a before and after of the crotch photo might be in order.

It Depends
 

An intentionally post processed obscured face no. Partially hidden or maybe artistically hidden by the subject... yes.
A good pic from the rear... yes!

Face or no face
 

I do not care whether it is a nice face or not, but I prefer a face to a cencorised bar/smudge/spot
I like a *real* picture (as it is taken), not a blocked out bodypart, face or no face.

On the other hand.....

I will download the picture anyhow, even with the smudge/spot/bar, *if* that is the only one choice available....

I rather have a picture of a girl wearing a mask, than the *same* picture with a bar/smudge/spot preventing her eyes to be recognized..

beauty does not matter to me... (but it does).... it is the situation of the picture that would be my first step in selecting my *favorites*

It is nice if a picture has a nice face, AS LONG AS IT IS A REAL FACE

I hope this :p clears things up :p

A face or whole bodyshot is preferred, but if the girl is hot and there is no other option yes i would download the picture. When it comes to censoring I would prefer she hide her face with her hands rather than a black box or a distorted face.

Good question Fango... I have almost no faceless shots in any of my downloads. A pair of sunglasses is the most face coverage I will accept, unless it strikes me as a spectacularly sexy shot.

As a matter of fact, not only does there have to be a face, but there has to be at least one ordinary, everyday clothed pic in the mix too, or I won't usually bother saving them (as you can tell by the thread that I post the most to). And if there is only a faceless nude shot, then there has to be a piece of jewelry, or maybe some clothing or something in the shot that identifies the nude person as the same lady who is in the clothed shot.

Kills me too sometimes when a spectacular series of a girl is posted by an obvious ex boyfriend or husband and there is no clothed shot. Why wouldn't you just post that too? There are probably more of those shots to post then the nude ones!

My two cents.

It depends for me. I agree that a faceless body is not really that sexy but sometimes there is just a shot that I can't pass up. By in large, I prefer faces in my shots.

For me I would need to see their face otherwise I wouldn't download it. It just doesn't look as sexy without one.

It depends. For me the face determines the hotness of a pic in large part. Only rarely I download faceless or cencored pics. Sunglasses, a mask or covering hair can by fine though. Generally I don't like close-ups.

I voted it depends. Remember you can only really see the face if it is sort of pointed in your direction. Butt shots generally do not show faces anyway.

I don't like to make a lot of rules as to what is downloadable and what is not. The value of a typical pic to me is sort of dependent more or less equally on three components: 33% goes to the face. 33% goes to what is going on in the background. 33% goes to the body (not just the quality but what that body is doing).

Faces can be uninteresting and generic. Or they may be interesting, but not photographed well. Any given pic may hold more interest to me elsewhere. Artistic nude photographers frequently crop out the face, or part of it.

But really, faceless pics are in a definate minority in my collection. As I said in the Fremont close up thread, I couldn't stand a steady diet of them. Under ordinary circumstances, a nice, appealing face should not be cropped out of a pic.

Klondike

Depends
 

Depends. What is shown? I like butt-crack photos like the 2 photos below. But most of the time, yes, I need a face. The face is very important to see what expression the girl has, and that's a #1 priority for me.

It depends.

Usually a headless shot is something I just skim right by like I was flipping the channels BUT, being the nipple freak that I am, I will download a nice nipple pic, pokies or a downblouse shot.

I am an avid nipple collector. :D

I post my wife in as anonymous a way as possible because she doesn't know and I'd rather it stayed that way. I can at least maintain some sense of plausible deniability if she can't be identified. Basically I'm dead if she's identified... sorry if this bothers people but I do the best I can.

if you can see part of the face and can tell she is sexy then the shots can still be hot.
A pair of hot lips or sexy eyes is often all i need.

if she agrees
 

faces are great, however, it should NOT be done without the consent of the girl (or guy).
i'd rather see 100's pics of a faceless girl with a crazy bod them one with her face (w/o her consent)!
moreover if you STEAL their face pics they will most likely not post again!
that suck for the rest of us.
have fun but remember that these are real people!

losers like gnuxxx have caused several willing/sexy girls to go in hiding because he/she stole and posted their face pics.
finally, if a girl ask you to take of their pics off it doesn't mean they are not willing to share just not their faces!!!

Absolutely agree with this. Anonymity is sometimes important even for people like my wife who are willing to pose and post. It's unrealistic to expect everyone is happy/able to have face pics all over the internet. I'd rather we had a good supply of interesting pics without faces than stolen face pics happy though I am if girls are willing to let their faces be shown (of course!)

Not just the face
 

There must be a face and I prefer full body shots. How about you?

I voted it doesn't matter. Would normally have voted no, never but then I came across a woman in Ladies of OCC and after seeing her pics and videos and finding out why she doesn't show her face it changed my mind. So to those who voted no, never you should at least find out why she chooses to hide her face. You may be missing out on a special lady. :)

Personally, if there is no face, I skip past the photos.

Can you please post a link to the post where she explains?

Thanks

Fango

It depends
 

I find a good smile or twinkling eyes more or a turn on than the legend of Sleepy Hollow. Finding these depends on the lady being willing to show her face while not fully dressed. If she is not willing or able to risk public exposure, then her wishes should be paramount.

I would, of course, download pics taken from the rear, but these cannot show faces, unless the lady has turned it to the camera. So yes, faces are important, but not essential.

Just plain body parts without context is like browsing a catalogue of car parts. Browse until you find what you need, but you don't read it for your viewing pleasure.

response to poll
 

I feel that the person's face is better to see in the pic, for me, it is because there is a certain 'thrill' in that there is a real, but slim chance of encountering that person out in public.

I'M DEFINITELY A FACE GUY...
 

However, I don't mind a good body shot that just focuses on an ass or breasts- even the gynecologist close up shots are fine. I'll tell you what I pass on though is the shots where the woman's face is distorted with black bars or blurs or whatever. It's not hard to hide a face during a photo shoot just by the way she is posed- and it looks so much better. The bars and blurs make your model look as if a damned graffiti artist has defaced her. (No offense intended to all you damned graffiti artists out there.)

We Need Some Exemplars
 

A few examples of face no face would be nice.

yeah
 

i tried that but my posts was deleted

Much depends on the context. First, I will never download a photo when the face has been totally obscured by a radical distortion like a whirlpool swirl or an extreme pinch/punch treatment. The distortion becomes the focus point and detracts from the subject. I would prefer that the subject just turn away. However, I do not object to a light blurring or black stripe across the upper face. I also do not object to masks of the Lone Ranger variety. I understand that in this PC world, there are personal risks about being ID'd on an adult site.

Most of us here are reasonably nice people, but we have seen how some people use sites like this to cause public humiliation as a way to take revenge for perceived offenses. For example, I would hate to hear about one of our OCC Ladies getting fired from their job because somebody just wanted to get even.

It depends.
Generally I would want the face in most cases, but if there was someone else in the photo and the person without the face wasn't a central part of the action, it might work. But I can't see that being a real regular occurence.
It also applies to censored faces. I generally don't bother with them either.
Without the face the "person" isn't there, just a part of their body, and I'm still a bit too much of a romantic to have sex or sexuality devalued to just the anatomy.
I do understand the need though for people to remain anonymous. I'm not sure what the best solution to that problem is, as it's a genuine concern that shouldn't be disregarded. I guess either very mild blurring, or a turned head, or hair across the face perhaps? Not really sure though. Eyes especially are amazing, I love to be able to see the person's eyes.

I know exactly where to find you... In my dreams, every time I close my eyes! :D:D:D

Thanks for giving your prospective. And know that I fully support your decision
to NOT show your face. After all... posting here should be fun. So, keep posting
and I, among many, will continue to view your contributions.

Mudbug

I've been following your thread for a while, and I've almost asked you why you don't show your face several times, but I never did, both because I didn't want to risk putting you off and because I figured that it was ultimately the career explanation that many women give for not wanting to show their face. Still, I'm glad that you posted in this thread and gave your full reasoning, as you're one of the most active and interesting Ladies of OCC we've ever had, and I did wonder. All that said, I need to see face: it's just the way I'm wired. :) Consequently, my favorite pics of yours are the few where you do give us a little glimpse of your face, and I'm very much looking forward to the mask pics. Because really, when it comes right down to it, it's really not so much the face I need to see, but the eyes. The mask will preserve your anonymity, but still allow us to see your (I'm sure :o) lovely eyes.

BTW, if I was responsible for any of the "disparaging things" posted in this thread (and I fear that I was), I sincerely apologize. :(

Fango

I rarely save pictures with blots or blurs or pixelations. I only do that if they are part of a collection including unobscured pictures. I save pictures where the model has turned her face away or has used a hatbrim or her hands to hide her face.

As someone said above, it is the expression on the face that makes the picture erotic to me. Without it, it might as well be a department store mannequin. The expression of the eyes and mouth, along with the body language makes the picture worth saving. More so than the gynecological shots, although when the lips are engorged and blooming they have a beauty all their own, not sometimes understood by women.

My two cents....
 

Except for some things that were already public, like the "swinger's magazines" and the traded photos that came from them years ago, most of my threads have the photos with hidden faces. Should I feel ashamed?

In every case, the lady involved is for real and has no problem with being shown as long as she cannot be identified. Whether that is my "friend's daughter", or my "nudist neighbor", these are real ladies and I could have easily kept their photos and stories locked up in a drawer OR shared them with hidden faces in this wonderful and entertaining OCC forum for those of us with shared interests. One lady asked recently, "can they see my jewelry?" which she thinks is very distinctive. Of course, I told her that her naked jewelry was completely exposed to all the internet( not to mention her pussy and nipples).

I have thought about putting other person's faces on the bodies, but that would look creepy, besides I don't know how to do it.

Almost everything I have posted has a context and something about the person or the event that makes it interesting, I hope. But if these photos without visible faces are not up to the standards of this group or deemed of no value, I will no longer post any of these and keep them to myself, saving the server space for others.

As to my wife and our experiences dating or when at nudist resorts, they are all real and I am proud of her whether she is 18 or 60. I don't show her face for the obvious reasons, including that I have told friends and neighbors about OCC and they enjoy it like I do. To be blunt, I am less concerned about them seeing her nude or even spread wide open than them hearing of some of her experiences that she would not like repeated in our social circles. I don't think anyone should find that difficult to comprehend. After all, if she went to one of her girlfriend outings and one of her friends mentioned over lunch, "My husband just told me that you like it up your ass", she would not be pleased. If one of them said "my husband has found some porn of a lady that he thinks is you" she would likely say "I will never tell."

Again, if these photos and experiences are not up to others' standards, I can save time and effort by not posting anything unless the face can be shown

Finally, and then I will shut up, I love the amateur photos but I would love to know more about when and where they were taken or the story behind them instead of just "I found these at another site". But even then, I can use my imagination and think about where they are and how this situation developed. I suggest you use your imagination and think of your attractive next door neighbor as my "nudist neighbor" and see if it helps.

As a woman who only ever posts with a blurred face, I can understand why the majority here prefer face pics. It seems to me that many of the pics here are being posted as collections for collectors, rather than by the individuals who created them thus losing some of the original context. The face, the expression, the look, all add that context back, which is missing with an obliterated face.

I love erotic pictures of women and agree that I too prefer them to be unblurred, but I can appreciate them even when blurred, knowing perhaps more acutely why some women chose to do this. In addition, on smaller boards where almost everyone blurs (which is where I tend to post) creating context and developing relationships with the guys there is part of the act of posting, and the pics are just part of that, the back and fore in the chatroom while posting, the naughty responses, that's what those boards are about.

This board is different in emphasis. That's not a problem, just a wonder of the world wide web...

Thanks for the info folks.

survey
 

i do not download any pics that do not have a face. it my pet pev when they put up a post and it says showing all and they are body shots no face...

Sweet Sydney
 

I feel a little tug at my heart at the mention of Sweet Sydney. Sydney knew how to be incredibly sexy without showing her face. She has more personality than any woman who has ever appeared on this forum and that personality drew in everyone lucky enough to view her thread. She actually did show her face...but did so at a time when she was feeling (in my opinion ) a little self destructive. We had long conversations about that choice. Eventually, she closed her account here for many of the reasons she explained for NOT showing her face. I miss her tremendously. I still have all of her pictures and videos, but will never ever share them out of respect and affection for her. I certainly understand a woman's choice not to show her face. However, without a backstory, without the personality, collecting headless pictures is still not my thing.

I like to see their face too. So the ones that don't show it start a mission to find more that do reveal her face. LOL

Personally I never save any pics at all.
I enjoy seeing them but I don’t want them in my possession.
Anyone here that posts with full face never had a problem at all with being recognized? As in there are pictures out there nude full face but the lady is still anonymous? I’m sure this happens a lot. If I see a hot lady full face I enjoy it, but have no interest in finding out who that person is via web searches and facial recognition.