CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

My favorite form of ENF is a woman stripped naked either during a catfight or wrestling match or after such a contest by either a bikini-clad -- or otherwise fully clothed -- opponent.

The woman who has best exemplified this in films is veteran porn actress Lisa Comshaw. (She also wrestles for some companies under the name Tori Sinclair.)

The red-headed star has made a series of videos where she loses one-sided fights and winds up naked at the mercy of fully clothed opponents including Santana, Franchesca Le, Christine Dupree and Robin.

So many female wrestling videos that have been produced over the years feature either two fully clad women, two topless women or two nude women in competitive matches. While that is fine for some, to me there is nothing more erotic than one woman dominating the other, stripping her naked and claiming her defeated opponent’s swimsuit as a trophy.

Sadly, there are so few films that follow that theme.

In the last couple years however, Lisa has single-handedly broken the mold by having the courage to put over her opponents and suffer humiliating naked losses.

In one film for Double Trouble productions (I do not work for that company or any other video producer I am writing about) she takes on Filipino beauty Santana, who strips Lisa naked in the early moments of the bout and proceeds to attack poor Lisa’s belly, boobs and crotch throughout.

In a couple of instances, bikini-clad Santana helps naked Lisa to her feet by tugging on her nipples! Although I have seen many videos where a woman wrestler helps another woman up by grabbing the hair on her head I had never before seen a woman lift another by her nipples. It is fantastic.

In another DT video, Lisa is stripped nude by a bikini-clad Christine Dupre who spends much of the match tugging on Lisa’s exposed pubic hair. Awesome.

In yet another DT video, bikini-clad Franchesca Le whacks swimsuit-clad Lisa in the head with Frnachesca’s championship belt before the match then strips an unconscious Lisa nude. After waking Lisa up by pinching her pussy, Franchesca proceeds to work over Lisa’s belly, boobs and crotch. At one point in the match a badly beaten Lisa tells Franchesca she can hit her in the tits as much as she would like as long as she stops hitting her in her sore pussy area. Franchesca laughs and then steps up her attack on a defenseleless Lisa’s auburn pubic mound. At the end of the match Franchesca takes up Lisa’s offer, sits on Lisa’s stomach and repeatedly whacks an unconscious Lisa’s big boobs back and forth.

What makes it even better is that Lisa displays incredibly believeable facial expressions and screams as though her nipples and pubic mound really are being unmercifully punished. Lisa also whines and begs her opponents to stop. She really sells it well.

In at least two videos for Les Femmes Fatales, a company owned by a blond wrestler named Robin, bikini-clad Robin strips Lisa nude and tortures her nipples and crotch. Again, Lisa really sells it that she is being destroyed by her fully clothed opponents.

In a recent DT release that features Lisa being stripped nude in two matches, there is another like segment that features a big, swimsuit-clad, veteran blond wrestler named Sandy the Heel stripping a young smaller woman named Melanie of her bikini and defeating her. (I will be purchasing that one in the near future.)

So apparently this type of CFNF video is catching on.

Women’s World also produces videos of CFNF matches, but usually they involve one woman being stripped nude after the conclusion of a match.

Some of the better ones for that company include a six-foot-plus black woman named Aziza beating and stripping Women’s World veteran Rachel. On the same tape, Aziza strips veteran Women’s World performer Candy after winning a match nine falls to zero. Aziza poses over both naked opponents.

Another film features veteran pro wrestler Angel Riptide (AKA Angel Cruz) in her younger days stripping Rachel naked. In another video for the same company, Angel wears a red velvet swimsuit and strips blue bikini-clad veteran Jill Monroe naked after winning a five-fall match. Despite the nudity, that match is featured on YouTube.

Interestingly enough, Jill, Candy and Rachel are featured in a few WW videos where at the end of their matches they strip their oppnents while remaining fully clothed. Candy and Rachel also wind up naked quite frequently to fully clothed opponents in other videos.

Jill and Rachel once wrestled each other in sexy black one-piece swimsuits with Jill relieving Rachel of her’s and putting a foot on the back of Rachel’s neck.

These are just a few of the all-too-few examples of this type of video. Needless to say I try to collect all of the CFNF wrestling/catfight videos I can find.

Again, while I’m not saying there is anything wrong with the standard clothed-vs.-clothed, topless-vs.-topless and nude-vs.-nude competitive fight videos, to me there is nothing more wild than one woman stripping another and standing triumphant and clothed over a naked, defeated foe.

Does anyone out there know of other video companies that produce these type of one-sided CFNF matches? If so, could you post their web sites? Could you describe some of their matches?

Better yet, does anyone have photos or video clips of the above-mentioned matches or other CFNF matches they can post on this forum? (I do not have the computer equipment or software to do so or I would.)

How about any real-life experiences – or photos and videos -- where one clothed woman strips another naked after a fight? That also would be cool.

Nice thread cigar4u. I must agree that a one sided catfight is one of the most erotic scenarios ever. Not that I have a fixation to violence or all that blood and gore, but the very idea of two women battling it out and ending up with one of them totally and absolutley naked and humiliated, while the other remains fully clothed and unscathe, is quite a turn on.

For me, I would really prefer if the women start off fully clothed, e.g. in jeans, tops and shoes, and ends with both combatants a study in contrast, as the loser ends up naked as the day she was born, while the winner still dressed as she was before the fight. It would likewise be more of a turn on if the clothed female goes out of her way to really humiliate her naked opponent during the match by paying extra attention to her most intimate and private parts and heap more ignominy on her after the match by totally destroying all her clothes, leaving her nothing to wear even after she had lost.

I am reposting here something I had posted earlier in another thread which I think is quite on topic. Its quite incomplete but I hope someone may have the rest and be so kind as to share them with us.

Love

Helen

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Good post, Cigar!

I agree with the sentiment expressed in your post. What I would like to see is a staged wrestling production WWE style, that features this kind of one-sided ENF.

I have a DVD from Carmen Electra's NWWL, and while it was certainly entertaining, more so as a spoof of pro wrestling. But as you mentioned, their concept is just two women who start out naked... and I found it lacking.

You mentioned a Double Trouble productions? I would be interested in checking them out. From what you described it sounds great.

Why don't you make it, Helmhood? You think Sativa's up for it? :D

BTW, I will finally be watching "Nice Girls Finish Last" this week.

Fango

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Well now, that would be a dream come true, the ultimate production! I'd want to get a gym location that could be tricked out as an "arena", and of course lots of extras to be the fans. I'd do it all, with referees, ring announcers, wacky ringside commentators... and we would do WWE style mayhem, only it would feature full nudity. I also wouldn't limit the material to wrestlers... but would have female managers, announcers all invloved in a running storyline about them getting stripped.

And yes, Sativa would be the star attraction.

Um, anyway, looking forward to you watching NGFL :)

I also agree that the absolute best type of ENF is a dispute where the two women start off fully clothed (in jeans, skirt, tops, underwear, socks, shoes,etc., just like hemo101 pointed out) and ends with the loser totally nude, stripped of every last article of clothing, and the winner still dressed as she was before the fight.

But instead of this taking place in a wrestling ring, it takes place in a very public place. Even better still, the loser is a very attractive woman, maybe a stuck-up and spoiled-rotten young b*tch while the winner is some housewife who doesn't take the younger woman's BS.

Ive bought quite a few off DT. I'd reccomend Bare Bottm Battering as been quite good.

You got any other reccomendations?

Where else do we get to see this kinda stuff acted out?

CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

The blond in that sequence is Candi, a veteran fetish wrestler who has worked for Jaguar, Greeneyes, Steel Kittens, Leather and Lace, Hollywood Productions, Double Trouble and just about every other company in the business.

She also does mixed wrestling and bondage work. Her customers have called her one of the nicest women in the business who loves to do this kind of work.

Although she wins some of her competitive matches she is known and loved in the business for taking some great one-sided beatings. The photos you have posted are perhaps the best example of her CFNM wrestling work – and one of the best one-sided fights ever captured on film.

Not only does the black woman beat and strip Candi, she also thoroughly humiliates her. I have seen larger individual photos of that fight on the internet but I do not recall where. Some of those photos used to be on Candi’s Yahoo group (Sweet as Candi) but when I looked at that site earlier today they were no longer being posted in the photos section. I do not know who the black woman is.

I do not know what company produced those stills, but I believe they are from a video. Probably some one in this forum owns a copy and perhaps can post it. I do not own this video. I previously had only seen about a half dozen photos from it. Yours, however, is the largest collection of thumbnail size photos I have seen from that match. Helen, could you post some larger single photos from this fight?

There is a great one-sided CFNF catfight Candi did for Double Trouble vs. Santana, who seems to have done a number of these type of films – always as the winner.

In that video, Santana and Candi start out in bikinis in a hot tub. Santana strips and dominates Candi. There is a great still in the Sweet as Candi Yahoo Group that shows Santana in a blue bikini pulling on Candi’s nipples as though they were pieces of taffy. (Note tha t Santana’s boobs fall out of her bra during the fight, though she remains clothed in her bikini as she dominates her naked foe.)

I know that photo is from a video. I do not own it, but again, perhaps someone in this forum does and would be willing to share a clip or two.

Also, in my previous posting, I forgot to mention my all-time favorite CFNF fight captured on film. It was the beach catfight from the early 1970s sexploitation classic “Ginger” starring Cheri Caffaro.

Bikini-clad Caffaro, portraying a female detective named Ginger, is confronted by a gang of four girls in bikinis as Ginger is sunning herself on a New Jersey beach. Blond Caffaro challenges the brunette gang leader to a fight with the stipulation that the loser has to be stripped. After a short fight, Caffaro strips the brunette naked and ties the woman up with her own bikini then walks away as the nude brunette struggles in the sand.

Someone posted that clip on another web site recently, but it was not downloadable and has since been removed. Perhaps someone has that clip and can post it for all of us to enjoy.

If someone could provide me with instructions on how to upload DVD clips to the internet I would be happy to share some of my CFNF wrestling material. Does it require special computer equipment?

Also, Helen, I agree with you about the violent stuff. I also do not like fights where one woman bloodies the other or gives her a black eye. That’s not erotic to me. In the match you have posted I suppose the black woman could just as easily have beaten and bloodied Candi. But what she did to her instead is so much more lasting and so much sexier. Cuts and bruises heal, but the emtional scars from an ass whipping and stripping –especially in public – can last forever and be just as satisfying for the winner.

One more quick comment – I think it is so cool that there are women out there who share my love of CFNF – and perhaps even CFNM -- wrestling. Have you been involved in such a match either as a winner or a loser Helen? If so, do you wish to share any details? How about any of you other women on this forum? Have you had similar CFNF wrestling experiences?

Cigar - besides DT are there any clips out there that are avilable for downloadable purchase?

CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

That is a good question Frrio, and strikes at the very reason I started this thread.

Most of the female fight material out there features clothed vs. clothed, topless vs. topless and nude vs. nude. There is so little clothed vs. nude action available, thus I have found few sites that market CFNF wrestling material.

The people who produce gal wrestling videos pretty much have followed the same model that was pioneered in the 1960s and 1970s by Triumph and Sundance Studios – the competitive matches with a winner decided in the last seconds of a long, even encounter, with no stripping unless both women wind up topless or naked. (I should say that mode of operation dates even further back to the Irving Claw-produced Bette Page films of the 1950s – pretty even matches with no humiliation at the end.)

It is a formula that is tried and true and has made those companies a nice profit – two ladies in equal amount ofclothing or in the nude rolling around on a carpet with both being in command for a while before one woman gets a slight advantage and wins. I guess the producers feel why take a chance and deviate from that style with a one-sided fight ending in total humiliation for one competitor?

Only in recent years has a handful of companies drifted from the formula to produce a small amount of material to satisfy their CFNF wrestling fans. Double Trouble, which still produces primarily the standard stuff, is perhaps the best example of a company that is taking a chance marketing a small number of matches where one woman retains her clothing while stripping a foe to her birthday suit.

If you join their pay site, you can download some of their matches.

I went to their web site the other day and saw they had a special downloadable strip match this month featuring Lisa Comshaw against a tall, good looking blond. The rules were that the loser of a fall had to surrender a piece of clothing to the winner.

In that fight, according to DT’s description, Lisa lost the first fall and had to surrender her bra. In the second fall, Lisa put a crotch claw on the blond and forced her to surrender. The blond reacted by removing a single glove, much to Lisa’s dismay. The blond, according to the description by the company, went on to win the third fall, took Lisa’s bikini bottom and proceeded to dominate the naked redhead throughout the rest of the match. I understand the blond also got Lisa back in kind for the second fall crotch claw.

Women’s World Productions out of Florida (they have three websites -- just Google “Women’s World Wrestling” and its main site should be among the first two or three search responses) also has ventured into one-sided matches that end in one woman stripping another. And some of those matches are downloadable – again for a monthly subscription fee.

As I mentioned, you can view three segments of the Angel vs. Jill match from Women’s World on YouTube. In the search box just enter “Jill Monroe” and find the third segement of her match with Angel Cruz. It features a thumbnail photo of Angel putting Jill in a bear hug. After Jill passes out from the pressure of the bearhug, Angel says “winner takes all” and strips Jill who is lying on her stomach. I think YouTube let this one go because all you can see is the side of Jill’s naked butt. Jill’s boobs are pressed firmly against the mat.

Again, like DT, most of WW’s stuff is mainstream bikini vs. bikini, topless vs. topless and nude vs. nude. So I have not joined either site. There is just not enough CFNF wrestling to make it worth my while.

Also, Robin’s Les Femmes Fatale website has some downloadable matches – again for paid members only. Two of Robin’s matches vs. Lisa Comshaw end with Robin dressed and Lisa naked. I believe both are downloadable.
One is called Arm Twist Frolic in which Robin wears a blue wet look bikini and Lisa wears a green wet look bikini. Lisa spends much of the match topless then in the later stages loses her bottoms as well.

At one point, a suffering Lisa asks dominant Robin, “What are you doing?” As Robin pulls off Lisa’s bottoms, Robin replies, “I’m stripping you.” I purchased that tape and enjoyed it until it broke. I don’t know how to repair VHS tapes. It was a real heartbreak. So now I collect only DVDs

I posted this thread hoping that others would know of more sites that have CFNF wrestling and, perhaps even encourage future producers of such films to make a portion of their inventory one-sided matches in which one clothed woman strips and dominates a rival. I believe there is a strong, but apparently silent market for this material.

Cigar - having read your comments, i would say I whole heartedly agree. I have searched and searched for fresh material - but to no avail. When odd material does come along - it sets a beat going.

The closest I have come - is to pay for custom matches on these sites such as DT and Ring Women Video. I'm currently in talks over a possible new match.

Admitetly not nude , This is the very reason I used to like the WWE to a point. They always had the odd little segment of females embarrsed by others. Off hand - I remember I liked the little part where Trish and Ashley stipped Candice of her robe. She stood up and the two mocked her by pretending to cover themselves up. They then shouted ' look at her ass ' as she walked off.

I find Wrestling plays a huge part in this cf / nf as it allows dominance etc to take over and really lets the female deliberate and play out a long humiliation / toying and teasing with their victim throughout the course of the match.

That said its important from my view - that the nude female plays a role where she is embarrsed at losing her clothes. I've seen plenty on DT and others where they are stripped, but then simply couldnt care less and strip the other opponent to..so your left with two nudes ( which kind of ruins it for me )

With regards to that match - I think perhaps the tall Blonde might be Tylene Buck? Although ive not seen that match advertised. I just pay for the odd match, and do not subscribe. You should check the match ' Come Raw Comeshaw. ' Its great how Tylene takes the bottoms of Lisa. She laughs as she does so, and as Lisa scowls to cover up, Tylene dangles her bottoms over her head , inviting Lisa to collect them.

However trying to identify on DT which are going to be potentially one sided matches with humilaition in them, is quite hard. For added realism I also like it some of the time, where the Clothed Female, remains clothed herself throughout.

More often than not though, Ive bought matches where both are nude, or the nude girl is simply not bothered by being stripped.

It goes beyond Wrestling occasionally too. I love it when a female seems to take an enjoyment out of another girls humilating experience. Any mainstream clips I come across I often save and store. For instance the clip of a female model accidentaly losing her bottoms, baring her butt was great, but then for all the females in the background to laugh and looked shocked made it that bit better.

Or the clip of a gang of girls chasing a girl, who lost her towell - simply great.

I agree - there is definitley the market - its about finding it, and targeting a site for requests. Or hoping that some company / production will re - create your desires. There's a few cheap vendors on Clips 4 Sale that might be worth taking a punt with - Ones a tickling one, but do have the occasional catfight clip. etc

Lets keep eyes and ears open, whilst in the meantime sharing our thoughts experiences etc. Be in touch soon.

CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

Gee Frrio, it sounds like you are really into CFNF wrestling like I am.

The strip match video I was talking about was one of Double Trouble’s WOW series featuring Tina Z against Lisa.

But the video you described is the next one I plan on purchasing, featuring not only the Tylene vs. Lisa match you mentioned but also a rematch of Santana vs. Lisa and Sandy vs. Melanie. I understand in each of those two matches the loser ends up nude while the winner remains in a swimsuit.

It sounds like you give the Lisa vs. Tylene match a tumbs up.

I purchased the Tylene Buck vs. Anastasia Pierce CFNF match from DT and was a little disappointed. But I do give them credit for trying to capture the spirit of the clothed vs. nude theme.

In that match, entitled “The Nude Arm of the Law,”Anastasia portrayed an LA cop arresting Tylene for prostitution in Tylene’s home. When Tylene refused to be handcuffed and go quietly, Anastasia stripped off her cop’s uniform, bra, panties and shoes and challenged Tylene who took off her robe and kicked off her high heels, opting to fight in sexy lengerie.

“You’re not going to get naked?” a shocked Anastasia asked. “Earn it,” Tylene replied. The problem was that the match was not one-sided. Anastasia, despite being as naked as the day she was born, held her own and the two pretty much rolled around the appartment, occasionally grabbing each other’s boobs. Although Tylene remained clothed throughout the fight, her bra could not contain her big boobs which constantly popped out.

In the end, Tylene won and handcuffed the naked cop. She also put on Anastasia’s cop hat and taunted Anastasia and all LA cops for being weak. That was kind ofsexy. It would have been so much better if Tylene had dominated the naked Anastasia throughout the bout.

About the Tylene vs. Lisa fight you mentioned, I understand from the photo on the DT web site that Tylene also winds up nude in the match with Lisa. Does Lisa strip Tylene after being stripped or does Tyleen just take off her swimsuit after stripping Lisa and fight her in a nude match?

That is another thing about a number of women wrestling movies that really makes me scratch my head. One woman will overpower, beat and strip the other, then for no good reason take off her own clothes and continue wrestling her opponent in a nude match.

Why would any woman do that in a real life fight? I mean, I know these matches are scripted and the women in them are only acting so as not to really hurt each other. But there needs to be a right mix of quasi reality and fantasy to make them look somewhat believable.

I cannot for the life of me figure why a woman would take her own clothes off after getting her opponent nude and vulnerable.

Also, Frrio I agree with you 100 percent that it is a seemingly waste of a good stripping if the stripped woman doesn’t care about being nude. That really is a slap in the face of the ENF fetish. Part of the joy of stripping an opponent is her shocked reaction. Without it, the fantasy really is diminished.
I think the reason some women who make wrestling videos don’t look shocked after being stripped naked is because so many of them are porn actresses, strippers/dancers and figure models who are so used to being nude in photos and films and on stage it is second nature for them.

What these women need to do is think of their characters as just regular women who as a rule do not get naked in public so that when they get stripped during a match they can really sell it that they are being seen that way for the first time by a lot of people and are so humiliated by being sans bikini.

To be honest, although I love Lisa Comshaw for her work in making CFNF wrestling films as the quintessential loser – and I love her facial expressions and screams as her opponents whack her nude boobs, belly and crotch – she really does not show much or any emotion over being stripped naked. She looks way too comfortable being nude against a clothed opponent.

At the very least, she should try to cover up her boobs and pubic area during the first few seconds after being rendered naked or beg her opponent to give her her suit back. That would be so erotic as her opponent naturally would refuse to allow Lisa to redress.

Then again, I do not want to be too critical because Lisa is one of the few actresses willing to go so far in a match. I would reckon there are a number of fetish women wrestlers who would absolutely refuse to be stripped and humiliated in a one-sided match – even the jobbers who regularly lose competitive matches – no matter how much money the producers are willing to pay.

I think it must take a special woman who is willing to make a video-- permanent record -- where she loses her clothes and is totally humiliated at the hands of a clothed woman – even if it is just play acting.

Thank you Cigar and Friio to your insights on the wonderful world of cfnf fighting. Like both of you, I look forward to situations where one of the combatants is totally outmatched by her opponent at the onset, causing her to lose badly and end up humiliatingly naked. I guess its the ignominy of her fate that serves as the real turn on since it seems to be part of human nature to relish in the miseries of others.

Thanks also for introducing me to DTP. They seem to have an extensive collection. I think I'll spend time browsing over it to see what they have to offer. I have come across a number of sites that may offer similar fare. You could try f-f-fights, femmefightbound, femmefights, mfxvideo and the Brazilian site dragonfilms, just to name a few which feature
one sided fights, sometimes even two on one action, where one opponent is made to fight at a disadvantage. I recall one situation from f-f-fights where one of the combatants was in a minidress and boots while her opponent was stark naked. You could check them out.

Sorry Cigar, I do have more, well to be honest about four more photos of the Candi match but unfortunately they are watermarked. They come from the same fight.

BTW I read the write up on the long arm of the law on DTP. There seams to be a conflict on what Tylene wore during the fight. In your account she was in her lingerie, while in the DTP edition she still wore her dress and stockings. Care to clarify? I think the more the winner has on during the fight would place her opponent at a more disadvantageous position, at least psychologically, especially if she has to start off nude.

I was wondering also whether there were any fights there where the winner was not in a swimsuit or bikini but was more covered up. I think thats what I would like to view, a fully covered woman in long sleaved jacket and pants totally dominating a naked female writhing and quivering at her feet. Hey, maybe you could request DTP for that.

You may be interestred to know that I have tried to write a few totally one sided catfight stories. its in the asstr.net site under my name. If you guys can spare the time, catch them. I would love some feed back, good or bad.

What would be your favorite cfnf fight scenario?

junts
 

i want to see the girl running from the other girls with out her towel:)

I'm a huge fan of these type of matches as well. "Bare Bottom Battering" was definitely a good one. Other DT matches I would recommend involve Mia Walters, and usually Tasha. I don't remember all names, but a couple are "Whippersnapper" and "Trapped By Tasha". There's also a really good one with Francesca and Mia where Francesca is ultimately trying to take Mia's bikini bottoms as a trophy. It ends with Mia tied up and nude on the bed with Francesca taunting and dangling her bottoms in front of her. One of my faves... Can't remember the name, but you can search by match genre(i.e. dominance) on the DT site. My favorite scenario would be a gang of clothed girls stripping and humiliating another girl, but this takes $$$...sigh

I'll have to check the Tina vs Lisa match out. This is one match i haven't purchased yet.

Santina vs Lisa and Sandy vs Melanie are also two matches I am planning on purchasing shortly. Reason why I put the Tylene match ahead of this was because I know from past experience that Tylene is one of the best at dominating / toying / teasing with her victim.

Now im not so sure about Santina and Sandy but I will look. Nor have I purchased the Tylene vs Anastacia ( again perhaps due to the lack of realism) - I can fully envisage why you would be a little disappointed though.

Now with regards to the Tylene vs Lisa match - Yes, Lisa does stip Tylene after she is nude herself ( which is naturally disapointing - however Tylene has a great body so I let this go a little. ) Often what I find is key to these videos - or what I look for short snipets of ' the humiliation ' we are looking for. It's rare that you get a full match exactly suited to your tastes.

Let me explain - in the build up to Lisa getting stipped, Tylene completley dominates Lisa, giivng her several humiliating looking wedgies front and back. Her bikini top is also stripped away. Its during each Wedgie that I looked for Tylenes facial expressions aswell as Lisa's and these are fairly good.

The bit I liked best was when Lisa gets stipped of her bottoms. Without ruining the video..Lisa crawls on all fours sort of, and then flops to the mat, with the help of Tylenes foot. Tylene then edges around the back of Lisa, and questions " Well how do you like this? " I pause and watch in slow motion as Tylenes slap Lisa's back, hook around her bottoms and pull down around her ass. Tylene almosts laughs as she is doing so. As they slip off her knees, Lisa covers her modesty, and does so as Tylene waves them in the air. It's after this that she encourages Lisa to collect them, whilst mocking Lisa telling her " she cant do sh*t!, making reference to her being a dog crawling.

I agree it dosent make sense at all for the victor to stip also, but cigar you are completley right - unfortunatley they are all in the business of stripping and so dosent bother them in the slightest. It's up to the likes of us to suggest it to them. That is why I stongly reccomend the clip on DT ' Bare Bottom Battering.' Its between Charlie and Andie. It's written by me, DT produced it for me. See what you think - It centres around Andie dominating Charlie and humiliting her exposing her ass all too often. Hemo I think you might like it - although Andie for some reason takes her own top off. Charlie for a large part staggers around the ring with pants around knees, ending up in all sorts of humilaiting positions.

There is plenty of talk into the camera - and focuses a little more on humiliaitng domination rather than two nudes battling it out. Charlie also does an extremley good job of being ' embarressed.' Constant cries of ' No!' whilst trying to pull her panties back up seems to be a little extra bonus.

It might not be completley your taste but hey why not. DT seem to understand where I am coming from and I hold a good rapport. Also as I say in talks with Ringwomen Video, so we'll see what they have to say. They advertise such matches " suited completley to your needs"

Whilst on the subject of DT - Please check out the clip 'Model Abuse' It features JC Marie against two girls. From looking at the picture is it just me or does JC seem to be completley nude. She may be wearing a thong however I cannot really judge from the pic. She seems to be face down on the mat with two clothed females putting her in a hold. See what you think.
Edit just looked again and looks as though Bikini top is on - still very nearly nude though. Looks promising.

With regards to being ' a special type of women ' I agree. The key is though identifying potential ( or previewing a few girls and seeing what their character is ) before, well in my case agreeing to pay. These producers ( naturally ) seem to be very helpful once in talks. Thats why i'm keen to work with Tylene. Looks a very playful / hot / teasing type of girl and I as I say seen hints of just the sort of thing i'm looking for.

Hemo - thanks for the heads up on those sites. I am a member of F/F fights and femmfights but will check out others, along with your comments to asstr and let you know what I think. Again trouble with F/F and femmefights is that both end up nude at the same time. Damsels in peril their sister site is geared up to more what I am after - one girl getting tied up by another ( who is clothed ) whilst they undo her top and or bottoms - whilst they are powerless. Again they could work on trying to be more embarressed, but hey ho well have to see. Again in talks with these over a possible script.

What would be my favourite cfnf scenario? Tough call as I cant remember all off hand. I've seen many a great or nearly great clip throughout the time i've been searching. To be honest things went a little quiet recently however this thread has inspired to me to dig out old thoughts / collections and recall events - so im afraid you'll have to wait with this one.

Edit - Ric flair just seen your post as typing. Thank you with regards to Bare bottom battering! And welcome to the discussion - I reckon with a bit of work we can pull some good material off - stuff we havent seen. Thanks for the info on Francesca / Mia. Again another I havent seen.

Also on closer inspection the Candi vs the Black girl pics look awesome! This needs to be found as video. Obviously not on DT but maybe lurking away on one of those other companies you mentioned?

Wow! Hot! Did you say there are other pics too?

CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

I’ll try to answer Helen’s questions first, then Frrio’s.

RE: Tylene vs. Anastasia: Upon further review, you are correct. I thought it was a flimsy robe she had on. In reality it was a flimsy dress. Shows what I know about women’s clothing.

I’m not making light of this, Helen, because your CFNF wrestling fantasy goes a little beyond mine and I respect that.

Whereas I like one woman wearing just a swimsuit and in barefeet and her opponent nude, you prefer a woman dressed head-to-toe against a woman as naked as the day she was born. I have to admit that is a turn-on that I have not given much thought to, but you are right that really is sexy.

But if it is difficult to find swimsuit vs. nude videos and photos, I reckon it is 10 times more difficult to find fully clothed – including shoes – vs. totally nude matches. To be honest, I don’t know of any company that produces that material. And that makes me feel bad for you.

(There are a lot of companies producing fully clothed women mutually stripping each other nude in a fight, but that’s really not the same thing.)

Helen, because of your particular taste in CFNF wrestling, I would not recommend Tylene vs Anastasia to you, though I would recommend it to Frrio because of what he has written here.

At one point, when Anastasia removes her socks and is starkers, Tylene is still fully clothed. But then, Tylene removes the dress and is in panties, bra, stockings and bare feet. To me, it would have been so much sexier if Tylene were wearing a turtleneck shirt, long pants and knee-high boots (with the pantlegs tucked inside the boots) –and removed nothing.

The reason Anastasia gives for stripping off her cop outfit is so that it wouldn’t get torn in their catfight. So, in some way, that makes sense. But she doesn’t give a reason for removing her panties, bra, shoes and socks – as well as her gun, gun belt and nightstick.

It would have made more sense to me if Anastasia stayed clothed, pulled out her gun and forced Tylene to strip naked, then fight her, damn the potential damage to her blue uniform, which would have been minimal. (But, alas, they don’t pay me to write these scripts. Darn it!)

Helen, I think if you purchased this video you would also be disappointed that despite the obvious clothing disadvantage, Tylene does not dominate her nude opponent. Also, Tylene’s boobs are exposed throughout because her bra cannot contain them. So, in effect, this is a topless vs. nude fight. And the fight is far too even throughout until Tylene gets the upperhand when Anstasia tires.

The ending is cool, but why waste money on a video that is great in the beginning and great in the end but pretty disappointing through most of the middle?

However, on that same tape, is another match involving Tylene as a super heroine, against an equally sized blond. That, I believe, is more to your taste, Helen. In that video, Tylene is ambushed by a woman in a sexy black outfit who renders Tylene powerless with a magic green necklace – much like Superman would be weakened by green kryptonite.

The villain then removes her own outfit and then strips Tylene and puts on Tylene’s super hero costume – including Tylene’s boots -- and tortures the nude Tylene. That confrontation is pretty cool.

The third match on that tape is Franchesca Le beating and stripping Lisa Comshaw. However, Franchesca is virtually topless because her big boobs flop out of her bra early in the fight. Although Franchesca’s bra remains on she doesn’t bother to stuff her breasts back in. Still, it’s a great one-sided match.

Also, Helen, I want to thank you for introducing me to the asstr.net website. There are a lot of great stories. It is going to take me years to read them all. But I cannot find your stories. I tried several entries in the search engine – wrestling, CFNF wrestling, catfights, catfighting, etc.

Could you give me some of the titles of your work or words to enter in the search engine to find your stories? Yes, I would like to read them. I did read a few stories by others, and they were quite good. But almost all searches included a lot of MM gay wrestling stuff. Although there is nothing wrong with that, it’s not what I am into. I prefer reading FF amd FM stories where a female dominates and strips another female or a man.

Finally, to answer your question, I have many favorite CFNF wrestling scenarios, but one that I would really like to see put on video is a bit unusual and quasi historic. Here it is:

One of the combatants would be a Jackie Kennedy lookalike dressed in almost anything – pants suit, shirt and shorts and high heels, 1960s’ style bikini or swimsuit, etc., and a pillbox hat on her trademark poofy brunette hairdoo. The other combatant would be a sexy blond Marilyn Monroe lookalike dressed in almost anything because she wouldn’t have it on for very long.

I would like the producers to shoot the video on 1960s Technicolor stock to make it look more like an old super 8 film. Jackie would enter Marilyn’s bungalow and adminsiter a humiliating beating on Marilyn for having screwed around with JFK in the White House. Jackie would pay special attention to Marilyn’s incredible boobs and crotch during her relentless attack.

Marilyn would wind up nude, humliated and begging a fully clothed Jackie to stop kicking her ass after a totally one-sided fight. Jackie would then force Marilyn to swallow a bottle full of pills then lay her out naked and unconscious on her bed.

Jackie would then readjust her own clothes and her pillbox hat and strut out of the house with Marilyn’s clothes and shoes under her arm as a trophy. Marilyn would be found naked that night by authorities.

The video would end with the camera fading out on a beaten and dying Marilyn nude on her bed, her empty pill bottle at her side – the “real story” about how Marilyn died that night in 1962.

Talk about your Kennedy conspiracies, huh?

Now, I’ll try to answer Frrio’s questions.

I cannot agree with you more that no one video is going to fit exactly one’s taste unless you write, produce and direct it. But that can get real expensive. I reckon you paid at least $300 to $500 for DT to make your video. That’s a lot of money to me.

By the way, once I am done filing this response I am going to the DT site to check out your Bare Bottom Battering. But I also note that from your writing they strayed a little from your script because the victorious girl removed her top. From what you have written here, I don’t think you put that in your script.

That would be one of my fears – paying a company a good sum of money to produce one of my scripts and having some director add stuff that, in effect, is not in line with my desires or wishes. If I write a script calling for a one-sided CFNF wrestling match I would not want the winner to wind up topless. One set of bare boobs is enough for me – the loser’s bare boobs. After all, the C stands for clothed. And clothed means all of the key woman parts being covered. That’s the fantasy. Stick to it.

Also, Frrio, I agree with you about F-F Fights and Femmefights. Most of their material is nude vs. nude. If one woman is wearing garters, stockings and boots – and nothing else – she is still nude. And, again, there is nothing wrong with that. If that’s your taste in female combatants, then god bless you.

But it’s not clothed vs. nude. Period.

Besides, with F-F and Femmefights, I understand the fights are pretty even and the totally nude woman sometimes beats the partially clothed – but in effect -- nude woman. A key element to the clothed vs. nude match fantasy is that the clothed woman dominates the humiliated nude one.

What makes me laugh about F-F and Femmefights is that if one woman is wearing those big boots with sharp clunky high heels why doesn’t the partially clothed woman just stomp on the totally nude woman’s bare feet or kick her in the crotch until the totally naked gal screams her surrender?

No way does a barefoot woman stand a chance against a woman with such weapon-like shoes if the woman who is wearing them knows how to kick and stomp.

To me, it makes no sense for a woman to be stripped naked and overcome the humiliation to win the fight. It may happen in real life if the nude woman is real tough and could care less about being totally exposed. But, again, the spirit of the CFNF match fantasy is that the victor be the one who is fully clothed standing over the loser who is naked and submissive at the winner’s feet.

Helen and Frrio, I hope I answered your questions. If you have more, just ask. And let’s get more people invovled in this discussion. I’m sure there are a bunch of ENF fans who would like to weigh in on this subject.

Your right the videos are expensive and i've only ever done it now and again as it is alot really, too much. Perhpas if you would like to to see something then you could suggest it to me? Just a thought. Your right, the girl does remove her top. The reason being in this case, I didnt mention that she shouldn't ( if you see what I mean, ) and so DT automatically did.

However I let it slip, and we move on learing from experience. In contrast with this I made another video with them and added loads of detail, and to be honest it was a flop because every little slot felt like it was staged I.e the match didnt flow because of me providing them with too much detail. So I guess its about trying to cut a fine balance. I'm pretty confident one day it will be pretty much nailed on.

Cigar - you do a good job of reviewing clips from DT. I think i'll give that clip a miss ( I find the supergirls and police clips even more far fetched than the in ring ones sometimes.

Current project is going to be trying to locate the Candi Video as pictured before!

Hi Friio and Cigar!

First Friio, I checked my files and the other pictures of Candi's humiliating, one sided catfight with the big black chick had the watermark "Greeneyes.com" printed on it. You could start your search with that site. Hope to see one of your productions soon.

Now for Cigar, thanks for taking time out to catch my works. Sorry if I gave out the site as asstr.net, the correct site is www.asstr.org. Once you enter the site click on the authors section and an alphabetical listing by authors will pop up. Then click the letter H and scroll down till you see hemo101 and click on the name. Then click ftp and a listing of my stories will be displayed. I think there are about five stories there dealing with catfighting. "Justicia", "Madame President", "The Last Battle", "Castaways" and "Castaways: Retribution". Hope you like them.

Like your fantasy fight. Who knows maybe thats what really happened. For all her veneer of gentility maybe deep down the former first lady was really a vindictive b*tch who just had to get more than even with the person who "insulted her". You know a head for a tooth instead of a simple eye for an eye. Hmm. . . care to share a little blow by blow account Cigar?

Wow! ! ! I knew checking out Dtp would bear fruit. I caught sight of a potentially good cfnf scenario entitled "the wow of all flesh". Here we have an absolutely nude Tanya, I think, except for her shoes , wrestling another fighter, sorry her name escapes me for now, completely covered in a unitard, plus an eyepatch. Looks promising and interesting. Film 599 to be exact. Anyone with a heads up on this?

i want candi
 

forum won't let me post link but it is there on green eyes site, its pc107 candi's humiliation, search by 'candi'

CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

The DT video 599 would have been a perfect example of CFNF wrestling exept they deviated from the CFNF theme and the description misleads the reader. It actually is a nude vs. nude video in disguise.

The winning wrestler in this video is Christine Dupree, a veteran fetish wrestler who has made numerous videos for a lot of companies. She is sort of a pioneer in the sport by being one of the first women to do videos where she attacks her opponent’s privates and pulls on their pubic hairs.

For many years from the 1950s through the 1980s the attacking of another woman’s boobs and crotch in wrestling videos was taboo. In only recent years have the women wrestlers, directors, producers, etc. found a way to target such areas that is not painful yet looks somewhat believable.

For example, one of my favorite wrestlers, Santana, is really good at twisting boobs – she really sells it – but in reality she is not really doing it. She simply moves her hands over her opponent’s breasts and gives the illusion that she is twisting nipples or boobs while her opponent throws her head back and screams like her mams are being ripped off. If you play it in slow motion you’ll see what I mean.

Christine, on the other hand, is really good at – for lack of a better term – “weeding the garden.” She really makes it look like she is tearing out another woman’s pubic hair. There is a DT video she did with Lisa Comshaw that I understand focuses on fully clothed Christine attacking naked Lisa’s pubes. I also plan to buy that one in the near future.

But, back to the Christine vs. Tanya match.

I too planned to purchase that video until I saw other photos of that match posted on Yahoo Groops and other web sites.

What you don’t see in the DT photo is that Tanya early on in the fight ripped Christina’s leotard from her chest to her crotch, exposing everything Christine has to offer. And the former Penthouse Pet is nicely endowed. Christine retaliates by stripping Tanya naked. While Christine remains in her leotard throughout the fight, it is in tatters and does not cover anything but her legs, arms and backside.

(I do not know why Christine wears an eye patch in this video. She is not blind in that eye. I guess the producers thought it somehow would make her look sexier. In a way, it does. It works for me.)

From the other photos I have seen, it appararently is a one-sided match with Tanya offering little or no effective defense other than tearing Christina’s suit. Also from the photos there apparently is one scene where Christina hangs Tanya by one of her boots from the top turnbuckle – in wrestling it’s called a “tree of woe” – and punishes her by stomping on her. Some folks are really into that form of trampling.

Again, I think the producers or director, in their misguided belief that men and women want to see both combatants nude, made a big mistake here. They had the opportunity to make a classic CFNF wrestling match and surrendered to a decades’ old stereotype requiring both women to be equally clad or unclad.

Christine had posed nude in men’s matgazines and has been naked a lot on film. There is enough nude material on her out there. Given the way she domnated this fight, she really should not have been even partially nude.

There is some consolation here, however, in that this is one of the few female wrestling videos where there is a referee – a third girl – Stacy, who I understand remains clothed in her stirped shirt, shorts and shoes throughout the fight. So, in effect, you have a video with one woman fully clothed, another semi-nude and a third gal nude.

As for the Candi video from which you posted photos, yes, Greeneyes makes sense. Candi has done a lot of work for that company.

Greeneyes is owned by former wrestler Joan Wise, who seemingly has been in the business forever. As a result, she rarely drifts from the standard stuff dating back to the ‘70s.

But I like Greeneyes because it, in effect, launched the career of one of my favorite performers Bunny Glamazon, a six-foot-tall blond stripper with huge boobs who does a lot of domination wrestling stuff, but, as of yet, no CFNF or CFNM material. That’s a pity because she has done a number of one-sided matches, declining for whatever reason to denude her helpless opponents in the end.

Greeneyes does very little CFNF material. The best stuff is probably their nude female vs. nude male matches with the women emerging victorious. They also produce female on female clothed vs. clothed, nude vs. nude and, of course, the very popular topless vs. topless matches.

Because of Greeneyes’ track record I wouldn’t be surprised if the big black woman later in the video strips herself naked for no good reason and continues dominating a nude Candi. I don’t know if that happens, I am just saying I wouldn’t be surprised. Before purchasing the video it would be worth inquiring from the company or a person who has purchased the video if it is CFNF throughout.

That brings up another subject – I have found, like Frrio has, that these companies are approachable.
I once called Women’s World in Florida and the owner answered the phone. I introduced myself and, even though I had purchased only three videos at that point, he knew exactly who I was and pretty much what I had bought previously. I was impressed about how much he cared about his customers.

I called to ask about a particular match that I had purchased in a compilation tape featuring the endings of matches, when the stripping of one woman usually occurrs. The match featured a small blond named Shannon whose bikini was pulled off by a tall barefooted redhead in a black leather suit. I could not find it in their catalogue. He told me the number of the video and described the other two matches in it.

The video actually was a three-part story in which the big redhead dominated Shanon, then another small blond named Nikki in a wrestling ring. In the third segment, the redhead, wearing a bikini, took on both bikini-clad Shannon and Nikki, who turned the tables by beating and stripping the redhead.

Although I did not wind up buying that tape, I did purchase another compilation tape that featured the end of the third segment – again, the owner told me I could find the finish of that match on that tape, which was really the only part of the match I cared to see.

So, if you have questions about a particular video, it wouldn’t hurt to place a long distance call to the company and simply ask them about it before making a disappointing purchase.

As for writing a Kennedy vs. Monroe fantasy match, I might just give it a try. If I write it I’ll post it to a new thread.
Helen, as you probably know, the trouble with writing stories is you sometimes get disappointed that people do not respond the way you want them to. You leave yourself open for ridicule and disappointment – or even worse, apathy.

This forum, I have found, is really photo-driven. Take this thread, for example. Most of the comments and “thanks” have gone to you for posting the thumbnails of the Candi fight, not for my long-winded postings. Quite frankly I’m surprised that no one has attacked me with nasty comments for being verbose, which can sometimes happen on forums.

Also, I recently posted a lengthy four-part story to a ballbusting forum called femaledom.com. It took me a week to write it and it was full of nearly every fetish of that genre – CFNM, female on male ballbusting, wrestling, etc. I got maybe six responses from the more than 1,700 people who read the four installments. Although they generally were positive reviews of the piece, the overall response was so small that, in the final analysis, I felt it was not worth having written or posted it.

Before I write a story, I’d like to know if there is a significant demand for it.

Frrio what is the other video you had DT produce for you? Was it ever released to the public? You may say it was a flop, but others might not think so. Your Bare Bottom Battering video would have been just the thing I was looking for had the victorious girl not been topless. Still, from the description, it seems like a real solid video, especially for bare-bottom spanking fans.

First off would you believe it - I sat and wrote a long response, went to preview post and it disappeared!! Anyway..thanks for the heads up on Green eyes. Ive managed to locate that match and in short, it looks real good!
Although you say the site is very nude / nude based..im going to do some searches with regards to matches to our tastes ( as there seems to be loads of clips! )

Now this match is between Candi and Dynamite. The match is approproiatley called ' Candi's Humilation ' Check the synopsis of the fight - it mentions that Dynamite doesent lose an article of clothing throughout the match! This coupled with the realistic background setting ( something I also look for - for added realism ) looks v good. In this case Candi is seen to be humilated in a work place. Also the pics shown are at least new to me, and seem to be clearer shots. Check the one of Candi covering her front in dispare as Dynamite holds her from the back, seemingly enjoying the humilation.

The only problem with this - is that the match is a) a little expensive and b) seeminly only available in dvd format. I prefer downloads for convenience, so may contact the company to see if theyl convert it. If not I may end up buying it / and then converting onto file on the comp, for you to see. Check it out anyway;

http://www.greeneyes.com/wrestling/v...l/movie_id/862

With regards to DT - I'll check that vid out later - however i do know the Wow series are quite good. Do a search for ' wow ' in the box and view the vids - there are quite a few. Most if not all are nude / nude, however again watch in these for the ' little segments that set the beat going in parts of these matches. Where possible purchase the cheaper streaming movie first to see if you like or not. Note you wont be able to save this to your computer and the quality is not always that good.

With regards to the custom - I dont know the title of the match ( they name them, not me ) however its in the sneaky preview section, Lexxi vs JC Marie. Basically I was due to work with Tylene but she backed out so I ended up with Lexxi. This in my opinion is a good example of all what is wrong with purchasing custom vids. The acting is poor ( they try to be embarressd, but seem to laugh instead. ) Again focuses with ass exposure, which is the only part I liked. In all honestly I'd give this match a miss, but hey ive had to stomach it financially. With custom vids its important to be exactly clear with how you want the overall match to feel, setting out key pointers and of course get the girls that can 'play' into your role..ie research them before, see if they have the potential by looking out for the way they act / interact etc - to fulfil your desires on film. The later vid im afraid got it all wrong.

Hemo thanks for the site, I will get round to checking your stories as and when. Seems to be so much going on, checking sites you have provided me with. And cigar, I for one would be interested in your stories, so why not give it a go, nothing to lose even if a few people genuinely are appreciative. From past experience EVERY forum i have vistited, has browsers who in this case are just here to see women undressed ( there is nothing wrong with that ) and not neccesarly all that bothered about the discussion. However I judge that a few people are seeminly interested as per the odd replies that seem to be getting added to this post.

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Hi Friio!

Glad to know you found it. Hope you would be able to share it with us. From the looks of it the vid appears to be the epitome of all we have been looking forward to in a cfnf fight, with the winner losing not an ounce of clothing while heaping humiliation galore on her abjectly naked opponent. Hmm. . . come to think of it, wouldn't it have been better if the winner had on a denim jacket too, which would have contrasted nicely against her hapless foe's utter nakedness. Just a thought.

You mentioned also that you joined f-ffights, but you were not too impressed by it. I recall a long time ago of downloading a very interesting pic of two women battling. One was dressed in a sexy red dress and had boots on while her opponent was barefoot and nude. The dressed girl also looked as if she had a knife. Too bad I seemed to have lost that pic. Have you come across this scene and if so, whats it all about.

Thanks also for taking time out to check my stories.

Hey Cigar!

Go for it! I for one would look forward to your story. You really shouldn't mind other people's violent or otherwise apathetic reactions to your work. Its yours, you should be proud of it. You write for yourself and not necessarily to make someone else's day. Boy if you read some of the nasty criticisms of my work you would just about give up writing all together. Hmm. . . come to think of it I havent written much lately. Hmm. . .

Oh BTW I've tried reaching the sweet as candi yahoo site you mentioned earlier but keep getting the info that there is no site by that name. Could you please give me a link. Would definitely like to check it out.

Thanks

Love

Helen

P.S.

Could you give me a link too to your four part story

Hey Helen - Thanks - ive just bought it, dont know when it will arrive though. Hopefuly il get it put on here as soon as. Your certainley right - looks promising!

The f-f clips how many pages are we talking back, was it a long time ago? I'll do a quick search. So what was your first experience of cfnf wrestling then? In essence mine developed from the WWE stripping matches they used to have. I used to love one of the mainstream girls getting disrobed and being humilated by a diva. I found Chyna stipping Ivory after a b+p match once pretty good..and it developed from there, eventually I went looking for lesser known companies - up until present day!

Hi frrio!

Hmm. . . what first got me into cfnf fighting. I guess it started out with reading some pulp fiction and watching B films where there are gratuitous scenes of scantily clad women fighting it out. Eventually I started to imagine what it would be like if one of the fighters were a lot more dressed than the other, and the fight a lot more humiliating for the loser. I cannot recall exactly what I read or watched that got me hooked but one scenario I do remember is one where one of the combatants was only in a skimpy bikini while her opponent was fully dressed in jacket and jeans. Some long forgotten b film from the past.

One favorite scenario of mine goes like this:

Our heroine is invited by her boyfriend to spend a weekend at a beach house with some of his friends. For our purpose, lets say our heroine is a petite oriental chick with china doll features. The boyfriend can be you or cigar.

They arrive at the beach house earlier than the rest and have some quality time alone together, if you know what I mean. At some time, boyfriend has to leave his girl to pick up his friends, who seemed to have gotten into car trouble. Left with nothing to do, heroine takes a look into the inviting water and slips into this really skimpy bikini for a swim and tan.She heads out barefoot with nary a coverup or towel.

While frolicking in the waters her boyriend arrives. Together with him are his two best buds and their girlfriends, who are bffs themselves. In addition, there is another person with them, another girl who happens to be an ex girlfriend of our heroine's beau and is also another bff of the girlfriends of his best buds. Lets see, the guys are all dressed in your basic shirts and jeans, while the three girls are dressed for travel, in jeans, shirts and jackets.

Boyfriend then goes out to invite his girl in to greet his friends. Getting hold of her hand he practically drags her in. Feeling and looking quite embarrased having to face her boyfrind's friends in her skimpy outfit, our heroine's uneasiness grew upon seeing the third girl, whom she knew was her boyfriend's ex.

s our heroine tried to excuse herself to put on more clothes, the others somehow were able to deter her and so she ended up partying with them in just her bikini.

As more and more alcohol was being consumed, our heroine's boyriend's ex started to get more and more friendly with her ex. Eventually the two disappeared while our heroine was being otherwise distracted by the other girls. Once noticing the absence of her boyfriend, our heroine was able to break away from the two girls and search for her missing beau. She found him in a rather compromising position with his ex.

After yelling and ranting at the rather indescreet duo, our heroine turns her back on them and stomped off to put on some clothes and leave. However, before she gets far, she is attacked by her boyfriend's ex, who was eager to show her willingness to fight for him.

What ensues then is a totally one sided and humiliating catfight for our heroine who is much smaller than her boyfrind's ex who stands about a head taller than her. First she is swiftly stripped of her skimpy attire, first the bra and then the panties, leaving her delicious charms exposed to all present. Once nude her privates are mercilessly assaulted by her demented foe, who expressed sheer delight in tormenting her naked and hapless opponent.Unfortunately for her, none of the other guests came to her rescue and seemed quite delighted in watching her humiliation.

After a while the winner of the match lets up, but only to pull up our heroine by her nipples. Once stood our heroine is then dragged inside the house by her tits and made to gather her stuff. While still naked she is then grabbed by the hair by the victor and made to march back outside with her bag. They go directly to the bonfire made earlier where to her horror she is made to throw all her clothes to the fire to the racuous applause of the others, especially her now ex boyfriend, who went up to his new girlfriend with a kiss.

Too bad for our heroine, she lost her dignity, clothes and boyfriend all in one night and had to spend the rest of the weekend totally nude and at the mercy of the three couples.

An on topic pic

CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

I’m getting a kick out of the appearance that there are just three of us in the whole world who have this one fantasy. I really wish more people would weigh in on this thread.

But, because Helen and Frrio are so enthusiastic about the subject of CFNF fighting, I will be more than happy to carry on this conversation with just them for now. Anyone else who wishes to join in is more than welcome.

I’ll respond first to Frrio this time, then Helen.

Frrio I’m glad you found the Dynamite vs. Candi video, and yes that link indeed is where I first saw photos of that fight a while back. I believe I also saw additional large photos in a Yahoo Group.

I too plan to buy that video. I think that Helen hit it on the head when she said this video – if it lives up to its hype – is everything we are looking for in CFNF fighting.

You mention that you like scenarios or setups leading to a fight. If that’s the case, I have suggestion for you – Womans World Wrestling Tape SLV-334. There are two videos on this tape and both involve CFNF fighting. But the one with the great setup is called “No More Bad Bosses.”

Samantha is a boss who catches her worker Candy (a lanky brunette – not the actress in the Greeneyes Video) going to a gym to exercise during work hours. Samantha is wearing a shirt, shorts and bare feet. Candy is in a gold lame bikini and barefoot.

The two women argue over Candy’s goldbricking and then wrestle in the ring at the gym. The match is pretty even until Samantha gets the uperhand and strips Candy of her skimpy suit. Samantha then gives the naked and unconscious Candy a full-body shampoo.

The match ends with two other female co-workers arriving at the gym to see their fully clothed boss Samantha verbally disciplining a naked, kneeling and soaking wet Candy about goofing off during work time. The two women in dresses watch Candy’s humiliation at the hands of the boss. It’s a pretty neat scenario.

The other match features Jill Monroe beating and stripping and shampooing Zoe or Zora. Both start out in bikinis. Jill also “shaves” Zoe’s head. But the bald wig Zoe is wearing is so fake it is ridiculous. (She doesn’t even bother to put it on right and it looks like her skull is caved in.) The fight, however, is a good one-sided affair.

I anxiously await your review on the Candy vs. Dynamite video.

And now, to Helen.

I previosuly had read some of your stuff (Justica and the one about the pro wrestling league) on the Catfight message board. They’re all terrific stories.

I am going to take a wild guess that the Helen character is based somewhat on you and that Louisa is based on a former high school rival or even a good friend of yours. And I am going to assume your work is fiction – very good fiction.

What I like about your writing is that you paint a vivid picture of the combat. I can easily envision what is happening. So many writers try to explain complicated holds and the reader has trouble trying to figure out if one person is up or down or whatever. You, however, stick to easily explanable holds and maneuvers and thus the action flows smoothly.

What I don’t like about your writing – and mind you there is nothing wrong with what you do – is that you take a lot of time leading up to the fight by developing the characters perhaps a little too much. Then again, some people love that stuff. Others, like me, not so much.

For example, I love the fight in the story about the two sorority sisters. I had to however, work my way through the long setup. From the second paragraph on I knew there was goingto be a big fight between the two but it seemingly took forever to get to it.

Again, that’s OK because some people – especially women, I reckon – love that setup suff as much as they enjoy the fight description. Men primarily want the sexy details of the combat.

And sexy details you gave. I love the part where Lousia put on Helen’s clothes after knocking Helen out. And I absolutely loved how you had Louisa interpret that Helen was not yet naked because she still had her pubic hair – and how you had Louisa take care of that issue. Ouch. It hurt just to read it.

But my favroite stories were Castaway and Castaway Retribution because you really explored – and pushed -- the bondaries of CFNF fighting and humiliation and brought the story full circle with Helen getting revenge on Louisa.
And it was a nice twist with the nude Helen beating the clothed Louisa in the warehouse. Ordinarily that would not work, but the way you set it up made it work perfectly from a standpoint of a fitting revenge.

I’d overall rate your work as among the best catfight material I have ever read that fits my taste.

I do have a question for you, Helen. You seem to have a thing for the victorious woman burning the losing woman’s clothing. I also think that is so cool because it means the defeated woman has to remain naked and likely will have to go home that way. My thing however is the victorious woman keeping the loser’s clothes and shoes as trophies.
From a woman’s perspective (and I hope you are a woman as the name Helen would indicate, but on the internet you just never know), what’s your opinion about keeping another woman’s swimsuit or other article of clothing as a souviner as opposed to forcing her to burn everything she had on?

To answer your question about Sweet as Candi, you have to first join Yahoo Groops. That’s easy – it costs nothing. Go to Yahoo.com Groops and follow their instructions.

Because you cannot use the search engine to get to adult-oriented groups you have to kind of fool around and search ambiguous entries like women’s wrestling, catfighting, erotic wrestling, strip wrestling, etc. Then after viewing the photos and files in a group you join, click on the links for that group and that will lead you to more like groups, including those of an adult nature, you can join. Before you know it, you’ll have joined a hundred groups or more.

This site's adminstrators will not allow me to post a URL until I have at least 10 posts to this group.

As for my four-part story, it is on the femaledom.com message board. You can join the message board without joining the pay site. The board is free.

But I have to caution you Helen it is not the same type of fetish message board as this one. (I have more than one fetish.) In fact, femaledom.com is the ying to this site’s yang, dealing primarily with men as victims of embarassing situations, including being kicked in the balls and beaten up by women. I do not know if you are into that. If you are not, then I would not recommend you joining that message board.

The story is under the Ballbusting World category and is entitled “Ballbusting Aunt’s Triathlon.”
Written in the first person, it is a fictitious story about a teenage boy who is put through a grueling series of quasi-athletic tests by his aunt, who also is his domina mistress, and her female friend, the nephew’s former babysitter whom he despises. The tests serve as a means and competition for the older clothed women to attack the naked young man’s groin area.

The third chapter is somewhat garbled by font codes, but is somewhat readable. You have to go in several pages to find the first three chapters. The final chapter, which has a rewritten cleaner copy under the font-garbled one, comes a few pages later.

If you read it, let me know what you think.

Meanwhile, I’m giving some thought to the Jackie-Marilyn fantasy fight story. I have a little research to do, then I might sit down in the next couple of weeks – time permitting -- to write it and post it to a new thread on this message board.

Hi Cigar!

Thank you so much for taking time out to read my stories. Thank you also for your very kind comments and shall try to keep in mind everything you said next time I try writing once more. I know I do get carried away with details, leading to a very slow build up, but sometimes I feel this may be necessary to paint a complete picture for the reader. I shall keep in mind all that you have said and try to improve.

As for your question on my take on the victor taking all of the loser's clothing after the fight vis-a-vis their total destruction after, I must admit I am fifty -fifty on this. Both are equally degrading for the loser and will result in her total deprivation of any means of covering after the fight. Thus extending her humiliation even further. I like the idea of the winner taking the loser's clothing if both are of equal size. I would love it more if the winner gets to wear the loser's lost clothing and parades herself in front of the loser to really rub it in. I also love the idea of the winner utterly destroying the loser's clothing in front of her very eyes. More still if it is the loser herself who is made to do the destruction. Imagine how humiliated the loser would feel as she is forced to destroy something precious to her with her own hands. Brrr. . . I shudder to think of it. (N.B. As you have read my stories both subjects have been dealt with. In Madame President, we had Luisa don Helen's clothing before she proceeds to take her on, while in Justicia, poor Helena is forced by Luisa to auction off everything she owned to the crowd, and having to burn anything that was left unsold, leaving her with absolutely nothing she can call her own.)

I'm sorry I haven't yet taken time out to read your story. I must admit though I'm not into CFNM situations nor female domination of men. But I will read your story anyway just as soon as I can.

On another note, I believe these are the elements for the ideal cfnf catfight:

1. Both combatants should be beautiful and sexy as hell.

2.One of the women, obviously the winner, should appear more imposing than the other, the loser. Imposing in terms of size, bearing and attire. I love your idea of one of the combatants wearing a long sleaved turtle neck top and jeans tucked inside her knee high boots, especially if her opponent is forced to fight her in only a skimpy bikini. Right at the outset the one in the bikini would be at a psychological disadvantage to her more clothed foe.

3. The fight must take place in a crowd composed mostly, if not all, of the winner's friends. I think it would be most horrible for the loser to get stripped and toyed with in front of people she knows and sure to see everyday than in front of strangers.

4. The fight is also recorded somewhat for posterity. Cell phone cameras whould be good here.

5. The crowd openly cheer for the winner and derisively jeer the loser as she is going through her paces. It is very important that in cfnf one sided fights, every one has a good time, except of course for the loser.

What you think?

Found a nice sequence that could lead up to a cfnf fight.

There seems to be a Japanese fetish involving a group of girls ganging up, stripping and totally humiliating another female. I really don't know whether this is limited to the Japanese, but I have seen scenes of this nature only in Japanese films and pics.

Sorry if the first four pics are not entirely cfnf, but the idea of a pack of girls thoroughly ganging up on a hapless nude victim is clearly illustrated.

More of the what would appear to be Japanese fetish.

Sorry for the quality of the pics.

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CFNF Wrestling - Lisa Comshaw, etc.
 

Those are great pics. And, yes, you are right, Helen, the Japanese have been making films for quite some time involving strip fighting, where one woman is either brutally attacked by a gang of women or loses a one-on-one strip match vs. another woman then is ****d by a group of men.

(Both women, in effect agree to those terms beforehand, so I don’t think a crime is being videotaped. In fact, I reckon that if one of the girls is really horny and loves the fantasy of being gang ****d, she probably intentionally loses her clothes and the fight.)

Those type of films are not quite my cup of tea because in most of them, all of the women at some point end up nude or semi-nude. So really, it turns into a nude vs. nude match – the same stuff the industry has been offering for years. There’s plenty of that out there.

In the one-on-one strip matches I have seen, both women lose most of their clothing. While the loser winds up nude, the winner also winds up near-nude. And the fights are pretty much even, not one-sided, until the end. They really don’t fit the spirit of one-sided CFNF ENF fighting.

Although some of your still photos depict what appears to be CFNF fighting by capturing a moment in time, in the end these films tend to turn out to be simply semi-nude vs. nude **** videos. To some that’s fantastic. Me, not so much.

Nevertheless, thanks for posting those photos. You are really helping to keep this thread alive Helen with those type of photos which definitely depict ENF scenarios that are on subject with this message board.
As for your previous post of criterior for a CFNF match, I agree with your observations, except the first point and part of the third one.

In the first point you say the two women have to be good looking and sexy.

While that is definitly one great scenario, I can see this fantasy working with a number of other scenarios that don’t always involve women with supermodel/actress good looks. Here are a few for you to consider:

 A gorgeous, snooty 18-year-old popular girl picks on a Plain Jane-type schoolmate who, after taking more verbal abuse than anyone is expected to endure, beats and strips the Barbie doll cheerleader in an empty classroom after school. The plain girl, dressed in a schoolgirl uniform – white longsleve shirt and plaid skirt and saddle shoes and kneehigh white socks -- marches her nude and barefoot foe to the crowded boys’ locker room after football practice and tosses the curvy teen in to meet her fate.

 A man’s tall, gorgeous athletic mistress goes to the home of her rival and finds the frumpy but young housewife wearing only a robe and slippers with curlers in her hair. The homewrecker, dressed in a pullover shirt, hip-hugging jeans and cowboy boots, tells the housewife she is stealing her man and there is nothing she can do about it. Enraged, the not-so-attractive housewife attacks but soon is left only in her ugly curlers. The fully clothed mistress then chases the naked woman through her large house. The housewife is screaming, her sagging boobs bouncing wildly, as she gets to a bathroom and locks herself in. She cowers in the corner near the toilet as the mistress picks the lock and gets in. The mistress repeatedly dunks the wife’s head, now void of most of the curlers, into the toilet and flushes. The mistress grabs the housewife by her thick, untrimmed pubic bush and drags the naked, screaming gal to her car as neighbors look on in shock. The mistress drives her beaten and begging rival to the busiest intersection of the city then kicks her out to run starkers in the streets. The triumphant tart then drives to the husband’s place of work to proudly boast of her victory.

 An aging and somewhat hardened housewife dons a conservative one-piece swimsuit and goes to the pool at her apartment complex to find, among a large crowd of people, her husband putting suntan lotion on a gorgeous babe in a skimpy thong bikini. The housewife argues with her husband for flirting with a hussy until the pretty blond tells her to leave the guy alone – he wasn’t doing anything wrong. The salt-and-pepper-haired 50-year-old housewife tells the woman half her age to stay out of this. The blond tells her to go f herself. A one-sided fight follows as the housewife beats, strips and spanks the hot girl’s bare ass as the adult crowd wildly encourages her on. After blistring the gal’s butt, the victorious woman tosses her into the pool and the chlorine stings her seriously reddened behind. The housewife then “helps” the nude young woman out of the pool, lifting her by her big bubblegum-pink nipples, then drags her back to her apartment to punish her private parts in private.

Besides those scenarios, I also love inter-racial encounters of the CFNF kind. My favorite is a black woman – attractive or unattractive – in a white bikini taking on a drop-dead gorgeous blond in a black bikini. Both are barefooted.

To make what would be a long and totally erotic story short, the black girl winds up dancing in her white bikini, holding the white gal’s tattered black swimsuit/trophy above her head as the naked, beaten blond lies moaning in defeat beneath her ebony conquerer. The blond is then ordered to kiss the pinkish soles of her opponent’s rather large feet and admit that blacks are superior to whites.

In all of my black vs. white fantasies, the dark-skinned girl emerges victorious every time. I’m a white male, but that’s just how I like those type of matches to end.

In your third point, Helen, you say the crowd should be mostly the winner’s friends, yet you say the loser should be humiliated in front of people she knows.

I agree with the second part of that. But I think it is far more erotic if the crowd is evenly divided or has more of the loser’s friends and family in it.

That way, the loser is even more humiliated when she realizes that nearly everyone she knows or everyone who is important to her sees her at her absolute humiliatingly worst.

One point you did not touch upon – and one that is a pet peeve of mine – is that the matches should NOT end with the two combatants becoming “real good friends” – that is a lesbian encounter.

Although I have nothing against the lesbian lifestyle, I don’t want my CFNF wrestling fantasy – or any fight video, for that matter -- to end with both gals tongue-kissing. Yet, some (obviously male) producers of these type of films end their matches with a lovely girl-on-girl sixty-nine.

If I wanted to buy a lesbian video, I’d buy a lesbian video. Period.

And while I agree there sometimes is a fine line between love and hate, I think a good catfight – especially a one-sided match with a clear-cut clothed winner and naked loser – does not need to end with a make up/ makeout scene.

I can’t imagine two women who really hate each other – remember, that’s the premise for the catfight -- falling in love as they torture each other’s most sensitive parts. It doesn’t make sense unless, of course. the wrestling match was just a foreplay vehicle to get to the lovemaking.

(For example, Helen, do you see any circumstances where your Helen and Luisa characters would put their hatred aside to share a moment of sweet lovemaking? I don’t think so because their rivalry is too strong for either of them to even think tender thoughts of one another, that is unless you consider Luisa brutally r**ing Helen as a tender Hallmark moment. Even in situations where you could have had a dominant Luisa make love to a subserviant Helen you instead wrote about Luisa taking that golden opportunity to pluck out all of Helen’s pubic hairs. As a reader, I have to admit that was much more satisfying to me than a kiss.)

I can however, picture a victorious woman, to further humiliate her naked opponent, ass-r**ing her victim with a strapon – the trademark ending to all of the Ultimate Surrender video company’s nude vs. nude wrestling videos. Using sex as a weapon of degradation works in these type of scenarios.

Again, while it works for some when two women square off as enemies then for no clear-cut reason end up as gentle, caring lovers, it is not what the one-sided CFNF wrestling genre – or FF wrestling videos in general – is all about.

(NOTE: I apologize to the administrators of this board. I did not know that using the word r*** was not permitted when talking about that form of assault. I am sorry if I offended anyone with the two forms of the word late in my posting that got by and have since edited this story to self-censor the word.)

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FV 99 Festelle 'Card Fight' has a great cfnf scene in the first few mins when 1 fully clothed woman strips another

the forum won't let me post the link, but you can search google by festelle or kontex

Great scenarios Cigar4u. I like the idea of the gorgeous, snooty, stuck-up 18-year-old popular girl picking on the Plain Jane-type (if it's in a school or public setting) or being rude to an older housewife-type if it's any non-school public setting. Whatever the scenario, the snooty girl ends up getting stripped completely naked (shoes and all), with her triumphant adversary destroying or taking all the snooty girls clothes. Either way, snooty girl ends up totally nude in a very public place and has to get herself out of her humiliating ENF situation. Stories, photos and/or videos welcome.

Hi Cigar!

Thanks for confirming that there is indeed a Japanese fetish for brutal girl on girl action. I don't know, but from what I have observed so far, they seem to have a lot of material depicting cruelty to women in sexual ways. I've seen a lot of bondage films wherein the women are tied up like pretzels in thick ropes and unmercifully beaten. I've also viewed realistic brutal gang ****s where the poor woman is ultimately given a bukkake shower by the guys. Things not often seen in western films.

I'm sorry to find out that most Japanese one on one girl actions end up as being nfnf. I guess the producers find showing two nude females together would rake in better profits than having only one bare her all. However come to think of it, since producers have to pay actresses more if they are made to strip nude on film, wouldn't they be able to save a lot if only one of the actresses has to strip and the other remains fully clothed. Just a thought.

Glad you liked the pics posted. I wish I had the full set of the last one showing a group of school girls besetting one girl, culminating in her being "bagged" in the end. Pretty intense if you ask me. I don't think this is a case where the other girls end up stripping nude also, like in most films, as you say. A film I am sure we both would enjoy.

As for my criteria for a good cfnf catfight, I'm sorry if I gave the impression that both catfighters should have drop dead, super model looks. No. For me, it is sufficient that both be attractive and pleasing to look at, but with the winner a little prettier, bigger and better built than the loser. I don't know, but I seem to have this thing for the one who loses to start the fight already intimidated by the other woman. Even before the first blow is struck, the loser is already at a psychological disadvantage of her foe as her feeling of inferiority turns out to reality as she is humiliated no end in the fight. It would also help if the winner proves to be a cocky, loudmouth biotch, who exudes all the confidence in the world as she divests her opponent of all her clothes.

I think thats why I like your situation of the mistress confronting the housewife. She ibefore the fight ends. s young, athletic, cocky and better looking than the frumpy wife. Although in my case I would have the wife be pretty also but a lot more conservative looking catholic girl than the hot girlfriend. The robe is ok but I'd lose the curlers. I hate that stuff. On second thought she could have curlers but they'd have to go before the fight ends. The winner could try ramming one of them inside the loser's p**y during the fight or even up her a**. Mean aren't I.

As for the crowd, I'm sorry if I sounded inconsistent when I said the crowd must all be rooting for the winner, and then said it would embarrass the loser most if she gets stripped in front of her friends. What I really meant was that the fight should take place in front of an audience composed of mutual friends of the combatants, but for some reason all are rooting for the winner and none for the loser. Well I guess it would be ok for the loser to have some supporters in the crowd, but they should not in anyway interfere in the festivities.

I agree with your observation that under no circumstances should the combatants end the fight in an intimate girl on girl action. That is VERBOTEN. It is so unrealistic and fake. Imagine having two girls litterally tearing each other apart, well actually only one of them will be doing the tearing, and the next minute both are cuddling together doing footsies. Yuck.

Sexual domination,however, is another story. I think it would be an added bonus for cfnf action to end with the winner sexually dominating the loser, with her fingers, any foreign object or even the ubiquitous strap on. For one, it would definitely add to the loser's sense of humiliation that not only had she lost all her clothing to the winner, but now had to surrender her most intimate body parts to the winner, to do with as she please. Second, by having the winner sexually dominate the loser after the match, this would extend the loser's suffering more as her ordeal would still not be over even after the match.

To abbycakes and colis5, welcome aboard.

Hey Frrio you've been silent some. What's up. You still haven't spilled your favorite scenario.

Hey sorry im here..

Whats my fav cfnf scenario? I agree with alot of both yours and cigars points above. Mine would have to take place in a very public place..at the moment my favourite would be the typical workplace situation. Perhaps all women are suited out in their business attire..you know smart blouse / grey / black trousers or skirt and tights. Now Im for al sorts of different combinations of females. I absolutley love a young blonde vs a young blonde ...or perhaps a young brunette vs a young blonde. That said I do love the thought of Older vs Younger female or even perhaps Younger humilaiting an Older Woman. Heres a little flavour of what right now I would like to see..

But for the purposes of this i'll choose two middle aged milfs. Ones Brunette and quite a bit bigger than her counterpart who is quite a bit smaller in build with Blonde hair. The blonde haired women keeps her self to her self around the workplace and is a sensible hardworker/ never puts a foot wrong and just goes about her business. The bigger Brunette however is alot more outgoing, likes to 'gob' and show off in front of others. Now which way does it go? Sometimes I'd say the quiter Blonde should come out of her shell and humiliate the Brunette. But again for added realism I quite like the idea of the Brunette living up to her usual self, showing the Blonde up in front of everyone.

Lets see, the Blondes going about her business and bends down to file away some documents. Doing so she accidently exposes a little ass cleavage. The brunette walking past notices this. Normally, she would shout it out so everyone could here..however this time, she bites her lip. She looks around and glances two colleagues looking in her direction ( one male, one female. ) The blonde gets up and stores away a document on the top shelf..Just as the Brunette thought she had missed her chance, the Blonde again crouches down, exposing the tip of her ass cleavage. This time, with the two colleagues in sight, the Brunette pulls a very sarcastically shocked look. ( A gasping sort of expression. ) She points at the Blonde, before pulling a more serious face, pretending to be impressed with what shes seen. The brunette then breaks into a teasing grin before sucking her pen walking off. The two colleagues continue to stare, but feel a little dissapointed that the Brunette didnt show the Blonde up publically.

Later on, The male eager to not let the siutation die out, emails the Brunette, making reference to the Blonde, making reference to how stupid she looked. The Brunette jokingly agrees. The conversation goes on, before the male plucks up enough courage to suggest to the Brunette that she should have shown her up completley. The Brunettes reponse sets a beat going with the male, as she suggestes " Maybe I'll get the chance to later!"

The day goes on and most staff leave for Home. The Brunette, herself a little dissapointed, thinking she might have missed the oppertunity to show her up, catches the Blonde leaving for the workplace Gym. The brunette suggests to her two colleagues that they follow her. On leaving the office, the Brunette, winks towards the young male colleague ' I know where she is. ' This again sets the beat going for the young colleague. The Brunette stops by the Gym door ( which is slightly ajar ) and the three ( Brunette and two colleagues ) begin to talk openly. As the Blonde catches their eye, the Brunette begings to purposley snigger. The Blonde, feeling a little uneasy carries on with her work out, and begins to climb the wall.

As shes so far up she senses the Brunette entering the room. " Hey..." The Brunette shouts sarcastically. Politley the Blonde acknowledges her. The two engage in coversation with the Blonde being quite polite, with the Brunette being her usual gobby self. The Brunette then goes for the sucker punch. " Oh and by the way, bring some pants that fit tommorrow..dont want to be seeing our plumbers butt again!" She then winks at her male colleague. The Blonde goes red with horror , and suspends her climbing. Sensing the Blondes uneasy state, the Brunette continues to mock, stating ' it wasnt all that bad.' The Blonde tells the Brunette to be quiet, however she's in no mood to quit any time soon, and thrives off winding her up, suggesting that the whole office saw!

The Blonde loses her cool, and tells the Brunette to f**k off, as she begins to climb down. Thats when the Brunette too loses it. She grabs the waistband of the Blondes gym shorts and yanks them down, pulling the Blonde off the wall with her. She screams as lands on the floor, shorts around knees, sitting on her panties. The three colleagues erupt with laughter. Too see a grown women, depants another was completleyh hilarious and hot. Immediatley the Blonde goes to reach for her shorts. However much to the delight of the two onlookers, the Brunettes momentum takes ahold, and she too grabs for the shorts. " Nnnooo!" The Blonde yelps, as shes dragged across the carpet floor, with her panties slowly coming down. She kicks and kicks, eventually kicking the Brunette in the face, breaking free. Jumping up, she pulls her shorts up before running into the changing room. Not to let this deter her, the Brunette sorts her hair out, and nods her head shouting ' No you dont' With this, the Brunette stalks the Blonde into the changing room. She uses a fire extinguisher to hold the door open before disapperaing out of view. The two colleagues listen on in anticipation as the two women get into a catfight. Cries of ' No Please ' can be heard as the Brunette slowly but surely re-appears in view. She has the Blonde on the floor, who is minues her top, and bra! The two colleagues get a glimpse of her bare back, before again she manages to escape. Again the Brunette follows, and after another brawl they re-appear this time with her panies around her ankles the Blonde is dragged along the floor. " You cant she screams!" The Brunette laughs as she pulls the completley naked Blonde out of the door way. She gasps in horror and tries to cover every inch of her body as desperatley tries re-enetring the locker room. The Brunette however is much to powerfulll, and with one hand full of hair, she shuts the locker room door with the other. Slap after raining slap lands on the Blondes ass. The brunette pulls and yanks at her hair as she drags the Blonde to the nearby fire exit. She begs and cries for mercy, realising shes powerless to do anything but accept shes being taken outside...you want to add the final bit??

Again the whole of that was written of the top of my head, and each little bit made up as i went along. Note done properly and more quotes/names etc would be added. Again im sorry not got round to reading your material, but I will as and when I get round to it.

Regarding the Japanese clips, they certainly do seem to be into this stripping of girls stuff. There is actually a clip of a student being tied up to a chair and stripped by loads of clothed female students. The quality was kinda poor, but anyone remember seeing it? I think but I may be wrong she was also gagged which would explain the worried look.

Still waiting on the Candis Humilaition clip, hopefully arrive later this week!

Tell you what else im a fan of. Where a female accidenaly embarress's another female on mainstream tv...The Pic of the Gladiator hanging onto the contestants pants on Hang tough, always sets my rocks going. How embarresing!

Hi Frrio!

Great scene. Lets see, she could be dragged outside to a nearby pub where all the other co-workers are unwinding. She is dragged by the brunette by her nipples while the two others follow after gathering all the blonde's clothes. Once in the pub the naked and cowering blonde is presented to her colleagues by the smug brunette, who thereupon sexually dominates the blonde in front of everyone. The blonde is not given her clothes back and must escape the place still nude and make her way home, miles away.

Hey take your time Frrio, the stories are not going anywhere.

Hey Cigar, here's A pic that goes completely against the norm.