the Dutch Sauna experience...
 

I hope you people don't mind that I am just telling a story (a true experience from 1 month ago)... I know this is supposed to be a photo forum (and I might get some photos as u will read further...). If it is extremely rude to post a story without pics then one of u is welcome to delete my post.

Anyway here goes...

I am an expat living in Amsterdam - the Netherlands.
About two months ago - a colleague from my work asked me if I wanted to play squash with him. I agreed and he said that he has a membership in a local gym and he'll let me in as a guest.
So we meet at the sports center (Gym+tennis club+squash club+ fitness lessons+pool+a sauna complex...) and play squash.
After the squash he asks me if I wanted to come to the sauna - I say sure (knowing that it's about time that I see wht's going on in the sauna first hand after hearing so many stories).
So we go to the lockers - take a shower - put a towl on and into the sauna complex we go.
The sauna was a really nice high end complex with various facilities like:
Jacuzzi+foot Jacuzzi+Herb bath+cold bath+finnish dry sauna+infrared sauna+ turkish wet sauna+showers+rest area+sun bathing area - all together.
The place was pretty big and had about 50 people (with people going in and out) of the various jacuzzis and saunas - needless to say the sauna complex was gender mixed including the showers - so this was in fact the first time that I ever found myself taking a shower with 4 young ladies and sitting in a closed wooden infrared cabin with 4 ladies + 1 guy...
And the ladies ? Man... oh .... man.... - they were just amazing - some of them were playboy quality, young and slim and fit with various pubic hair trims and various breast sizes - and all nude for me to admire... Jesus Christ - I was in complete shock.

Anyway... we sit is the infrared cabin which is quite small - maybe 3 meter by 2 meters - there are two benches facing each other - and three ladies walk in totally naked - one of them sits besides me and the other 3 on the opposite bench - and they all sit cross legged - so guess what? you can pretty much see every tiny bit... pure heaven - one had this tiny little landing strip, two were completely shaved and one had a trimmed wide landing strip.
I think they were all around 20-23 y/o and they were all tanned and extremely fit. Oh... one of them had a long pair of lower lips which were nicely showing.... hmmmmmm. Tasty.

I found it extremely awkward sitting there in the buff - however I did get used to it after a short while.

Anyway... to cut a long story short - I decided that I must start training there and the next day I signed a 1 month membership and have been going to the gym pretty much 4 times a week... this is the best thing you can ever ask for - you train and then end the evening in the sauna with some hot babes all nude and wet (sweating from the sauna heat) running jokes and socializing. What more can u ask for.

It seems to me that I will soon sign a 1 year subscription.

Anyway... I did see some people talking on the phone while in the complex - and it did give me some ideas about using my own phone... but I am not sure that I will take the risk... we'll see.

Just thought you guys might appreciate the story...

Oh, there was this weird thing that happened only once (on my 4th or 5th visit) - an amazing blond shaven chick goes into the sauna cabin and lies down on one of the benches (quite normal so far) - then she starts doing some weird stretches - she changes position and holds the position for 2 minutes and then changes position again. One of the stretch positions was her pulling her knees to her breasts (while lying on her back) and hugging her thighs so that her totally open bold pussy and ass hole were exposed as they would be at the gynecologist - and guess who assumed the role of the gyno? :p Meeeeee :D I just sat there and tried to do my best not to make it too obvious that I was staring into her open pussy. This was a close call since I started feeling like a very shy part of my body is soon going to show its own appreciation if I don't cool down quickly. So I tried to think about work...

LOL :D

Great story. I hope all goes well with your...ahem..."training" :rolleyes: ;)

Of course some pics would be nice as well. Just don't promise us anything unless you can get some for sure. There's already been enough of that around here.

I don't suppose you could share the name of some of these establishments should any of us be in the netherlands.

nice collection
 

I like hearing about these experiences - maybe OCC could start a story forum. The information is useful too, if you travel. If I go to Europe, I want to read more of these stories beore i go. Those babes sound like the 20-25 yo that pack Stormin Norman's food stand at Wreck Beach in Vancouver. Its a nice place to be a sardine packed in a can.:)

thanks,

Klondike

Story are great, but I DO think we nee dto be clear about this- is this a forum for posting threads without pictures ? I can only speak for myself, but I was disappointed when I opened this thread and there were no pics!

We dont have a problem with member's posting stories here as long as they remain on topic.

It might be an idea to include "text only" or "story" in the title or something along those line's to give other member's an idea of the subject matter.

Hope this helps

eNergy.

if no pictures then at least the name and location of the gym please

You can see if a thread has pictures in it or not as there will be a paperclip near the title saying it has attachments in it or not. Good story btw. I'll have to visit that leisure center.

Yeah, I would say that was on topic- if the " E " in ENF stands for Totally confidence and without any reservations or shyness!

LOL ...

Just me having a joke!!

Seriously perhaps it belongs in the forum " Exhibitionism, " although I DO agree there is a kinda voyeur aspect to this!

I was thinking the same thing. A woman who doesn't give a shit whether she has clothes on or not kinda sucks all the fun out of it as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed. This story is really more about exhibitionism, so I moved it here to the appropriate section.

Fango

You are a very lucky man! The Gym I go to only has a sauna, steam room and Jacuzzi, all requiring you to wear your bathing costume.

Just a quick update:
I was at the sauna today - and although it wasn't amazing (was not stuck in a small sauna booth with penthouse magazine quality chicks - unfortunately) - it was pretty good.
There were a few chicks (about 20) - some of which I shared a jacuzzi with and at one point there was a traffic jam to the shared shower (only 6 shower heads) so I was standing there patiently waiting for my turn while enjoying the view (although some of the shower users were men ,,, unfortunately) of the chicks showering.

Ah, there is this added little bonus to the gym:
The path to the sauna area is connected to the men's and women's locker rooms (separate since some gym members prefer to not be seen naked by the other gender) - now the locker rooms are built so that the first part is the locker and dressing area and the latter part is the shower are - the stupid thing (and I just LOVE it :p ) is that the exit to the Sauna is right near the shower area - and guess what? the exit doors are totally made of glass which basically allows uninterrupted views into both the men's and women's lockers/showers - so when I walk out into the path to the sauna area - I hook a left and right there in front of me is the glass door to the women's shower - and 5/10 times - you see girls showering - some of them you wouldn't see in the sauna because they are too shy- however you see them all nude taking a shower. Reminds me of the voy shower movies we have on this group - but only in real life. This is awsome!!!

So as you guys can understand - not only do I get to see lot's and lot's of hot chicks (and also some not that hot... fat or older women... and of course some men too...) nude up close and personal - I am also getting into serious shape - since this whole sauna thing where you walk around with all of your stuff hanging out just encourages you to work out and get your body into top shape. So I just picked up a new pair of running shoes today :o for the treadmill.

Some info on the dutch sauna system - the idea is that you have hundreds of them all over Holland and every Gym and every swimming pool (even public ones) have a sauna complex. If anyone happens to visit the netherlands - you can very easily google up a sauna in your are of stay - entrance is of course not for free (unless you are a member of the gym) and costs somwere between 7 Euros to 25 Euros - depending on the sauna. Some of the upper scale saunas offer an amazing experience (apart from the chicks - that is...) - they are beautiful and fun.
Some links:
http://www.saunacantarel.nl/index.html
http://www.thermae.nl/werkveld.asp?t...ge.htm&c at=1
Just type in google "sauna site:nl" and you will get many links...

Some tips:
* Make sure u bring a large towel with you.
* Find out if there is a ladies night - some places have this dreaded thing - and during that night - the saunas and nude areas are limited to females - avoid this of course
* Walk in with lot's of self confidence
* Try not to blankly stare at tits or pussy for a long time - you may (and you will!) look - but don't pierce look...
* See what others are doing and follow suit
* Don't get too excited - walking with a hard on is just not right
* Don't try to hit on the girls - girls don't go there to get laid - they try to relax
* Relax (!) :D - depending on the size of the place you can spend a very long time there (1-5 hours)

I typed in sauna site:nl and got three million returns. God all mighty, which one do I go to!!! :)

Klondike

Here's some British horse riders in a sauna; enjoy!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpt...the-sauna_sexy

If wanted, i can be your guide. :D
Now you know why i visit alsmost weekly (sometimes in winter 2 times a week) a saunacomplex. I also think i know from which chain the leisure centre is 1Dutchguy visit regurlarly.

;)

So which one is the place to go?

so long no story
 

Where to go to was the question. Although I not familiar with the gym sauna nicely described in the previous stories I know several of the sauna's in the Netherlands and I love to visit them. Although, I sincerely enjoy the sauna for their sauna's and baths it is the voyeurism that makes me visit the sauna on a regular basis.

Today, was no exception and after work I went to a Sauna in the Nijmegen region. They had distributed coupons, of which I was not aware, and unlike a normal Friday the place was fully crowded. The good thing was that the entrance was much cheaper with this coupon and that triggered the interest of many students ;). Therefore, next to some older people many young students (often in pairs and even some girlfriend groups) visited the place.

Another good thing of a busy day is that the high amount of nudity all around makes people less shy and everyone is walking around naked and many of them do not even bother to d**** a towel along their privates ;).

This day I have seen many cute girls walking around all naked. Only two girls had a nice little bush below the rest was completely shaven.

One of the best moments today was in the infrared room I was lying there when two cute ladies joined me and laid on their belly like most people in this room do. Of course I could not resist to peek at their asses which were just perfect. Suddenly one of the girls, who was looking out of the window, saw this little mouse walking in the garden. By the sight of this little creature the ladies became all excited because it was so CUTE:confused: In their excitement they forgot the "normal position" and and went sitting on their knees bending forward to have a better look at this little animal walking around. Now I had also a much better look;) and could look for a whole minute or so at their asses and pussies pointing in my direction.

I experienced more exciting moments this day, which I will share in a follow up

thanks this is great information

Someone once told me that several gyms in Holland not only have coed sauna area, but also coed locker room as well as coed showers outsite the sauna area. Does anyone have experience with that? It would be really nice to experience next time I'm in Holland:)

Hey folks,
justified through my experiences with mixed saunas in Germany from more than a decade, I’d like to make a contribution to this thread.
I’ve experienced ENF moments with girls becoming red in the face and trying to cover up as well as rather obscene exhibitions of the pink bits in public.
I go out for swimming and sauna on a regular basis. I do appreciate the health aspect, the workout, the relaxation etc. when spending my time in the spa. Nevertheless, since it’s all mixed sauna and relaxation areas, I must admit that it is indeed pretty enjoyable to be in a room together with a varying number of nude women. Sometimes it’s “hard enough” :D to keep your thoughts and eyes off the topic. I guess the majority of males would agree that sporting a boner in a public sauna or relaxation area is a most embarrassing situation...
(yes, it has happened to me and none of the women around made a big deal out of it. The “worst” reaction was by one woman who left the sauna and went into another one instead –
so maybe we just tend to worry too much about what other people may or may not think about us…) Anyway, the thing that I have been noticing for years is that some women seem to consciously “play the game” - and this fascinates me.

According to what has already been mentioned here, some of you have gained similar experiences in mixed saunas. I mean, there are situations in which women make themselves comfortable - either sitting or lying - with their legs spread right in front of a male, despite an empty sauna room. I’ve already been in the position myself and have also witnessed it quite often. I can also confirm what 1guyinholland mentioned earlier in this thread; there are women in the sauna pulling their knees to their breasts while lying on the back. May it be some stretching practice or breathing exercise… I don’t know, but they just let you see everything. Why would any girl do that in front of a stranger? I’m pretty sure they know exactly what this is doing to a man - after all, they don’t live on Mars. They must have heard about erections, they know that getting hard in public saunas is considered indecorous - consequently they know that they get you into a scr*pe by putting you at risk of getting a hard on in public.

Please don’t get me wrong in that. I don’t wanna say women in saunas are constantly looking for mating opportunities; this isn’t even my impression. My impression is that they rather enjoy the teasing, and that it’s much more about the guy’s reaction than about intercourse. Sooner or later the woman will always check out the people next to her and, based on my experience, it never takes too long until she catches the first guy staring at the things she’s showing him. Of course there are women (often the younger ones) who would close their legs when realizing they’re just being stared at. Others seem perfectly ok with it and may even "perform" moves like the one mentioned above, fully aware of the onlooker(s).

One time, a very attractive young brunette positioned herself across from me on the sauna bench and began stretching her arms over her head and to the sides as if it was some kind of workout – no other people in the sauna. She repeatedly “caught” me looking at her firm breasts without taking any offense.
I also remember one blond woman (probably in her 30s) standing next to my lounger in the relaxation area and beginning to rub a skin lotion all over her nude body. She knew that I was watching her – there was in fact no chance of not looking at her other than closing my eyes. She didn’t make eye contact but checked out my privates more than once. There have been many sauna women over the years giving unashamed and almost obscene stares at male genitals.

Latest example of the “games” women play in mixed saunas happened a fortnight ago. I was at my favourite spa, close to my hometown, with an entire “textile-free” floor and five different saunas (varying temperatures, aromas, etc). I went there on a weekday for it’s not that crowded then. Entering the first sauna, it’s always like Forrest Gump says “you never know what you’re gonna get“. I took a look around, realized there were only two grannies in there, rolled out my towel and found myself a place to lie down. After a while the two elderly ladies left and I was alone in the room. Hearing some footsteps approaching from outside, I was hoping for some nice female assets. The door opened and a couple (dark-haired man, blond girl, about 25yo) came in. She, an attractive girl with medium tits and clean-shaven pussy, was heading towards the wooden bench one level above me. As the two climbed up there, I was already offered a great view on her rosy inner labia, which was a turn-on for sure. They were sitting on the bench then, looking down on me lying completely naked on my towel. After a bit of giggling here and there the two started kissing - pretty intensely. I could see all her pink bits from below and she wasn’t shy to make eye contact with me from time to time. When she started rubbing her boyfriends thighs he repeatedly pushed away her hands, whereupon she would start giggling again. It was clear she was very much enjoying herself, putting her boyfriend at risk of getting a boner (-and me too!). She gave me some cheeky grins all the way through and totally knew she was in a predominant position. She continued teasing and bantering her boyfriend for a while up until a group of elderly people invaded the sauna.

Throughout the years as a sauna enthusiast, I’ve experienced situations in which both young and mature women’s behaviour has clearly shown that they were somehow “testing out” and trying to trigger reactions. I pretty much like the idea that once people have stripped off their clothes there is some connection between them, even if they don’t know each other.

As for the mixed shower / locker room question, I can say that many people seem a bit shy when they’ve just entered the spa, but become more generous before they're leaving. When I went there the last time, I had already been queuing up with a dark-haired woman, a little older than I am, in front of the counter. When we went into the lockers then, she took her swimsuit and bathrobe out of her bag and vanished into the changing cubicle. My disappointment got worse when I realized that time was running up and I hadn’t even seen her anywhere on the sauna floor. At the end of the 3 hour interval that both of us had booked before, she happened to enter the lockers while I was changing and she saw me completely nude. Standing in front of her locker, next to mine, she started peeling out of her wet swimsuit and let me see everything this time. Funny thing was that she wrapped a towel around her waist before putting on her panties, although I had already seen her trimmed pussy. Quite nicely, the next thing she put on wasn’t her bra but her denim jeans, so, on top of that, I could get a glimpse of her, standing there topless in denim jeans with pretty pointy nipples before I left. That was quite nice of her ;)

Thanks for the post I have seen some great things myself over the years....

One thing that I really liked was when I would use the sauna area in a hotel in Germany, a couple of times I would have got chatting here and there in the Sauna area, next thing you would be sat in the bar later with them, thinking, ive seen you naked !

One time I remember vividly I was sat eating breakfast in the hotel and an incredibly hot girl 19/20 walked past with her boyfriend, she was a real head turner. Later that evening im in the sauna area and in she walks, minus boyfriend, strips off completely naked, in full view of me and proceeds to use the facilities !

Ive never got hard, I dont know how but I am able to separate it somehow, but the memories are there !

I have also seen the gyno views mentioned above, sometimes im sure they are just so comfortable they dont think.

One last thing, the best boobs I ever saw was in a sauna in Luxembourg, they were just perfect most delicate pointy nipples I ever saw, and she wore these gloves to scrub yourself with whilst you are in there, the way she massaged those boobs and the sweat dripped off those nipples is probably the most erotic thing I ever saw !

I've been to a bunch of sauna's in Holland and Germany, and noticed a couple differences. Most obvious is that the dutch girls are completely shaved, while the Germans keep a bit of a landing strip. But on the to sauna dynamics...

Dutch sauna's are mostly full of girls who want to tan naked and spend their time in the pool / hot tub. Best is when you see two girls walking around together on the way to the hot tub, one visibly more nervous about being naked in public. While the confident girl will be laughing and giggling and trying to take the long way around, the nervous girl will be trying to discretely cover her boobs with her hands oblivious to the fact that her pussy is on display. But the girls rarely go inside the suanas themselves. Makes me a bit confused why they are there :confused:

But i'll disagree with the exhibitionist girls in the sauna themselves. It's pretty hard to catch a good eyeful of someone in the sauna cabin without looking like an obvious creep - nothing worse than knowing you're surrounded by a bunch of lovely naked girls but you can only catch a glimpse when adjusting your towel or seating position. The girls that bend over are just getting more comfortable in the heat - same move lots of guys do.

Germans take the sauna much more seriously. You'll never see skin except in the sauna room - but the girls go inside very regularly. Best are the regular "infusions" where everyone packs into one sauna cabin and an employee pours sented water on the stones to make the room hotter. There's literally nowhere you can avert your eyes so as not to see the naked body of a 20-something girl, everyone is packed in so tight. And then afterwards, everyone heads to the outdoor showers and takes a minute or two to cool down. If you're near the back of the shower line, that just means you'll need to wait and see all the girls in front of you shower naked :)

I'M from Germany and will be in the Trearme 2000 in Valkenburg next time. I've owned voucher for it ;-)

Germany late 1970s
 

I lived in Germany and regularly visited the spa/sauna complexes. I really preferred the smaller hotel or private community sauna houses. Although the larger ones had workout facilities which I would use on occasion. The one I attended regularly near where I lived had times of day for women only, men only and family periods. Funny thing was they usually didn't adhere to the time periods strictly. A couple times I got the times messed up and arrived during the women's session. The attendant just asked the few women in there if they minded a man coming in. Both times I was admitted immediately and the women accepted me talking with me as if it was no big deal.

There a few interesting things that did happen. A few times I signed up for a massage at this one place. When my time came the masseuse had been with the rest of us in the sauna and tub. We went into the massage room and she gave me my massage while she was wrapped only in towel around her waist. Of course I got a boner and she took care of it. ;) as if it was normal.

The most memorable incident was in a hotel. I checked in after spending a week providing some liaison work with the army during a field exercise. I hadn't been away from the exercise area the entire time, just staying an a small gastatte with small shower and not so hot water. I couldn't wait to get to a nice hotel, cleanup, sleep in a nice bed and eat a nice meal. The hotel had a spa with massage services, a sauna, hot and cold tubs and showers. I showered, got a massage and went to the sauna.

I met this nice couple there and we chatted about things in general. They were not very modest and he would occasionally rub her shoulders making sure to feel her tits as he did. She would lay there opening her legs toward me and caress her upper legs.

Well, after being "out of civilization" for a week this was starting to get me excited. I kept trying to suppress junior, but he kept trying to rise to the occasion. They both smiled at me and I finally said that I was sorry but having not been around a nude woman and seeing them enjoying themselves was causing me to get erect. They just laughed.

I had been in the sauna long enough and excused myself and went to a shower. One minute later both of them joined me in the shower. Without saying a word she started soaping my back and he was soaping her down. I turned around and proceeded to soap her front and she started soaping my front working down to junior. Here I was in a somewhat public shower with a couple - hands pleasuring each other. Both he and I were now fully erect. She went to work giving both of us a nice HJ. Of course I came rather quickly. She said she hoped I felt better, I thanked her and we all dried off and went our separate ways.

I ran into them later in a restaurant and they asked me if I'd join them which I did.

The Dutch Sauna experience
 

During years of cycling in the Netherlands we have visited a number of saunas. Our favorites are Deco Sauna in Amsterdam at Herengracht 115. It is absolutely gorgeous with a strong art deco motif. As most saunas in the Netherlands it is nude and mixed. Another favorite nude sauna is Sauna van Egmond in Haarlem. (Haarlem is about 15 minutes by train from Amsterdam.) Sauna van Egmond is somewhat larger than Deco Sauna with several saunas and steam baths.

From a previous post
 

German Spa

I guess she’d probably enjoy it if she gave it a try. No better time for trying than on holiday when you’re sure you don’t know anybody!
I’ve been living in a loose relationship with my best friend for many years. We used to go out together for swimming and sauna a lot when we were younger. Now that she has gained a few grams, she’s rather reluctant and would accompany me only sporadically a few times a year or when we are on holiday. I keep telling her that I like her curves but you all know how (hyper)critical women can sometimes be with their own bodies.
Anyways, the last time we went together, we took a break in an outdoor area adjoined to the sauna floor. We found ourselves some sun loungers and lay down. After a while we noticed that a guy standing nearby couldn’t take his eyes off her. He was remaining his distance but kept looking at her nonstop. She seemed a bit puzzled at first, but eventually didn’t cover her body with her towel; so I knew it was at least “ok” with her. On our way home I remarked that she didn’t seem too uncomfortable with the guy sneaking peeks at her goodies. She hesitantly confirmed and explained that it’s not even so much the guys who make her feel uncomfortable but much more the other women sceptically eyeballing one another. I understand her point in this respect; men seem to appreciate what they get offered, while women often tend to compare themselves to others when being in the spa. So if your wife has got no problem getting nude with other women, your chances seem ok that she will enjoy herself in a mixed sauna too.

Regarding the statement above (about the differences between German and Dutch saunas) I can only partly agree. If you go to Spas in Germany that have the entire textile-free floor, you do see a lot of skin outside the actual sauna rooms (hot tubs, relaxation areas, showers, tanning beds etc.). The number of girls who have their pubic area completely shaved has distinctly increased over the last years and is more or less balanced out to those keeping a landing strip nowadays.
Recently, I've even met several women in their 50s+ with completely shaven pussies. ;)

Great story, but that statement in particular jumped out at me. Something I could understand, but might not have thought of.
Men are probably far less judgmental in that respect!
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Saunas are great it seems like :D

I really agree !!!
 

Sauna van Egmond really is beautiful and cozy, but Sauna Deco really is out of this world. A small but intensely stylish place. It's essentially worth a trip. The story was that a Paris shop wanted to 'renew itself', sold of the Art Deco interior, and replaced it by something modern/ugly. The stuff was picked up cheaply by some dutch guys. who promptly used it to kick-start this place.

Best regards

Halkan

Hello Halkan,

" It's essentially worth a trip."

My wife and I had a short break in Amsterdam, and having read about this Sauna made an effort to go there. Certainly worth the walk and we would certainly return when we visit Amsterdam again, exceptional. Also, being naturists we appreciated the (no) dress code.

What slightly surprised me, being that it is in an area away from the red light district, the occasional prostitute sitting in a window.

Alec

German hotel sauna
 

two weeks ago i had to visit a show in germany, my PA booked the hotel for me and gave me the details. when my flight landed i caught a train to the location and to my surprise the hotel was a five star. i booked in and went to my room, inside there was a brochure for the pool and spa which believe it or not was free to use, only massages and treatments were extra. i had arrived on the tuesday and was due to fly back on the friday so i thought i would be able to use the facilities each evening. the brochure in the room showed photos of the area and said the sauna and hot tub area were clothing free. an hour later i was in the reception of the spa collecting complimentary towel and robe, i walked into the changing area to be confronted by a tall dark haired mid thirties woman with decent size tits removing her jeans. i put my things down and whipped off my t-shirt and trousers, she smiled as she pulled down her panties to reveal a small landing strip and put on her robe, i dropped my pants and my by now semi on flopped out. i put my robe on and walked up to the sauna area. inside i hung my robe and walked over to the sauna, through the window i could see two women and one older guy lying down, i went in and lay my towel down opposite the women and on the top step so i could see anyone below me. i had just lay down when the dark haired woman came in and lay down on the step below me, i had a clear view of the whole of her body, after about 10 minutes the guy and the two women got up and left leaving the two of us alone, i sat up and leant back against the wall, she glanced up and said is it too hot for you, i said no its fine but i am going in the jacuzzi in a minute anyway. i went into the shower area and had a quick scrub then climbed into the jacuzzi. a few minutes passed and the woman came out of the sauna and copied my actions, she walked over to the hot tub and said do you mind if i get in, of course not i replied. she slid in opposite me giving me a nice view of her almost bare pussy. i lay back and closed my eyes as the water blasted over me, suddenly i felt something touch my cock i opened my eyes and she was still sitting in the same place but as i looked in to the water i could see it was her foot, she said sorry if i startled you but i couldn't resist, my name is kirsten i'm on my own and i am going home in the morning, all the time she spoke her foot rubbed my now bone hard shaft, are you with anyone she asked me, no i'm here alone on business until friday, would you like some company for the evening she added, i could not believe my luck. we decided to take a shower and have a swim in the pool, it turned out she was 39 but looked younger and she was from Holland. after swimming we had a shower and went back into the sauna, the stunning young blonde receptionist Hannah was in adding some more water uniform on unfortunately (more to come) by 20.45 (nearly two hours after arriving) we had both had enough and went to get showered, we went into the shower area and turned the taps on, she squirted a handful of gel into her hand and started to wash my chest, i grabbed a squirt and rubbed her tits, we washed each other for a minute or so until we heard voices and had to stop. we both dried and got dressed and went into the bar for a drink. i will add the rest of the evening and other visits to the sauna later

Hello Mol,

a few years back my wife and I went to Amsterdam. I'd seen on the internet about an art deco sauna near the city centre so we went along to make use of it.

You say coed, which I guess means mixed? (Incidentally it means wood in Welsh) Yes the changing room was mixed and most were nude in the sauna. Certainly a spectacular spa and somewhere we'll go back to next time we visit Amsterdam. I saw nothing sexual there, it was just a normal sauna and seeing nude women does not cause me any embarrassing erections for that reason.

Alec

You've got my full attention. :D

Therme Erding (Germany)
 

I don't have too much experience of Dutch and German saunas but I went to Therme Erding near Munich 3 years ago, it was fantastic, so when I was back in Munich last week I went again. Twice.

If you are ever in Munich, make sure you visit it. If you have no plans to visit Munich, you should make some just for this!

Basically it is a huge leisure complex with 4 seperate areas - three of these are a family swimming area, a kid-centric waterslides section, and a wellness section for treatments and pampering, all of which are "swimsuit required" but make a pretty good day out in and of themselves. But it is the fourth section, the sauna section which is true paradise on earth for lovers of the naked female form. Swimsuits are "verboten" (forbidden) though you see a lot of people wearing them as they walk from one area to another, and modest guests can keep a towel or robe wrapped round them outside the saunas, pool and showers. While the minimum age is 16 I didn't see any 16 or 17 year old-looking kids when I was there. I'm guessing they would all rather hang in the waterslides section!

Anyway, if you don't want to strip off you can stay out of the pool and the saunas and just chill in your robe on a lounger and watch everyone go by - you will not stand out. Personally I would say you are missing 90% of the experience, they have every kind of sauna imaginable, as well as a large warm pool including an outdoors section, complete with poolside bar, jacuzzi bubble jets with seating and lying areas, a circuit with jet currents pushing you round, and of course it is full of naked women (and men). And after sauna it is obligatory to shower, sometimes those showers get quite busy.

The split of men to women is practically even - I didn't see very many single men, most people were there as couples (and I would definitely recommend taking along a lady friend, or if that's not possible, your wife or girlfriend). There is also a favourable age profile, if anything the younger 20-30 somethings outnumber the older people. The staff speak English, you can spend a whole day there for €40 per person, you can rent towels and robes, you can buy food and drink inside using your key and pay when you leave. The changing area is mixed - there are cubicles if you want privacy but the first thing I saw when I went in was a 20-something girl in her bra and panties just standing with a friend by her locker.

Having been 3 times now and learned from the experience I think I am in a position to give some advice to help you get the most of your visit:

1) Take the train. Once you are outside the city centre there is a decent chance some of the other people on the train are going to the same place you are, and looking out for them and anticipating possibly seeing them naked is great fun. The first time I went we sat opposite a couple on the train, including a large but pretty blonde girl, I was focused on my friend so regrettably didn't pay her too much attention, completely unaware that I would be seeing her totally naked within a few hours!

2) Check the saunas for presentation times and do as many of these as you can. On my first visit we just tried all the saunas one by one, there was usually a handful of other people in there or we had them all to ourselves. The second visit we stumbled accidentally on a full sauna just before a presentation was starting. A sauna full of people pressed together is much better than a near-empty one, and you have much more to look at. Also with space at a premium you have more chance of a nice girl climbing up past you to get to a higher seat (or in one case, squeezing in beside me!). Based on my experience there will almost always be four or five pretty women within your eyeline. If you are very lucky they will assume the lifted knees position giving you an unfettered view of their pussies (I saw plenty of these over the 2 days). Some saunas are better lit than others resulting in better views. After the sauna, you have some 20-50 people all heading for the same shower or balcony area to cool off, that can be fun too!

3) In glass-fronted saunas, try and get a seat at the edge so you are looking into the sauna rather than out the window. In general lower seats are better than higher seats, a) because it's cooler closer to the floor, and b) you'd rather be looking up at girls than down at them. If you have a lady friend with you and you are trying to be discreet about looking at other ladies, rather than sit next to each other, take the next seat up behind her with her head between your knees. An occasional reassuring kiss on the head is a good way to change your eyeline and improve a view. Where you rest your hands is up to you!

4) If you are going to spend any time people-watching the two best places are the entry-area from the clothed zone, and the main entrance to the pool. At the entry area, some people just pull their costume off straight away, some do so under a robe, but if you really want to see them naked just wait until they go into a sauna or the pool. At the pool entrance, everyone is naked. There are beautiful, but modest girls who will keep their towels wrapped round them outside the pool, will keep their bodies under the water in the pool, but they can't avoid being naked getting in or out, that is where you catch them.

5) The best sauna presentations to experience are Stonehenge (because it is big, you will have about 30-40 people in your eyeline whichever side you are on, increasing your chances of seeing someone beautiful), the salt-scrub sauna (in most saunas everyone just sits still in one position, in this one imagine 20 or so people rubbing salt all over their bodies!) and the Bakery sauna/Citron sauna (you get a free bread-roll/ice cream at the end!).

I thought about doing a sauna by sauna review of my experiences but frankly it would just be a (long) list of descriptions of women and how good a view I had of their intimate parts. I have done plenty of activities with naked people in their hundreds, but this is definitely top of the list for sheer volume of attractive girls' visible labia.

I'll second that. Most of the German urban areas have a similar Therme close by and I have not experienced a bad one. Although I've been to Erding, I was not aware of the presentations and I will make sure to check that out next time I go.

I particularly like the Kassel Therme but maybe because it was the first one I went to and the Duckling principle applies. The Taunas Therme near Frankfurt is also very good.

Another good thing about Erding is after your Sauna experience you can wander along to Brauerei (Brewery) for a tour of the place where the famous Erdinger Weissbier is made. Or, if that is too strenuous, just go to the Brauerei Gaststaette (I guess that might translate as Brewery Tap House) to enjoy the beer and a good meal.

Enough of this Bavarian Tourist propaganda - back to the tits and bums.

Any recommendations for Rotterdam?
 

Have anyone experienced a good sauna in Rotterdam? :D

and does anyone have tips on which times are best to go?
 

Now in summer, which times are the best for visiting? Weekends, sunday/saturday, evenings or middle of day?