Wife/partner talking about other people's bodies
 

When my wife and I were still dating, she went on a vacation with a good friend. When she got back, she mentioned that during their stay, her friend was often naked in their room. And she added, without me asking, that her friend was completely bald, and she could see "everything." They way she described her friend's pussy was completely "matter-of -fact", like if she was describing her dress or a pimple on her nose. I was like "Ok then"...probably not realizing she was giving food for my imagination. She even added that her "big boobs" were flopping around; as if that was a "bad thing" lol!

Some time later we went on her first trip to the nude beach. After the fact, she made some remark about the various penis sizes she'd seen. Adding that I had the best looking one (certainly to humor me). I was like: wait a minute! "You've looked at ALL the dicks!?" She just gave me a surprised look, as if to say: "Duh...of course I did!"

That was just the beginning, as we became social nudists. She was looking at one well-endowed lady one time, turned to me and said: "I don't know if I'd like having tits that big..." One of our friends clearly did not do a good job shaving one day, and my wife would later make a remark about the woman's "patchy pussy hair." She knows exactly who at the resort is circumcised and who isn't, who has a micropenis and who is packing, etc... She is clearly looking at everyone's tits and dick/pussy.

There is definitely a double-standard there. God forbids I talk to her about someone's pussy; I get a raised eyebrow or a huff. But for some reason she finds it ok for her to talk about it.

Just wondering if that's just my wife or is it common for women...

From my limited experience (of conversations about clothed women), I think you have a point. There is an apparent double standard. I've asked a number of women over the years about this and the replies were along the lines of many men having leering lustful gazes and comments. Many women don't believe they leer in the same way (more of an aesthetic than crude erotic appreciation) or if they do then it's less bad because their opportunity to abuse is less.

Many women also acknowledged that women were generally far more judgemental about female dress and bodies (including their own) than men - insecurity? Women tend to worry about their looks more than men and are considered to "lose their looks" sooner than men.

Power imbalance was also mentioned as a factor. Men are generally physically more physically powerful than women so there is an obvious vulnerability from domestic violence and sexual attack by a stranger. Also economic power - traditionally women stayed at home and looked after the children, economically dependant on a man who earned the money. While other men controlled the economy/government/fashion industry/media etc.. An ugly rich man can get a beautiful woman more easily than an average looking and earning man.

I can understand economic and physical power imbalances, but I haven't worked out the difference between the "male gaze" and the "female gaze". Freud spent his life trying and failing to work out what women want, so what are my chances? It's difficult enough trying to work out what one woman thinks or wants - let alone all women!

My wife tells me about the woman that works out about the same time as she does says after her workout she showers and gets ready for work. The important parts are that she has a killer body and spends a lot of time nude while she gets ready, most of the women are older and keep their nudity time at a minimum. As far as my wife would go is to take a picture of a picture of her on the bulletin board, yes, she is a smoke show. My wife says she is a natural blonde and she keeps herself and her outie vulva on display.

I had a friend who worked at a gym for a year or so. Almost daily, she would text me who she saw (mainly her own friends) naked in the lockerroom, including lots of details.

Then she quit. She is as bummed as I am!

This thread didn't go quite the way I'd hoped judging from the title but it is adjacent to *maybe* my all-time turn on/fetish which is women I'm having sex with describing their friends naked to me.

It started with the first girl I ever had sex with, during one of our sessions, out of the blue she just started talking about a friend of hers changing in front of her. She described her tits in detail and what her pussy was like...
I just couldn't believe it and basically started to cum immediately.
it seemed so dirty! Such a transgression?

I was hooked and got her to talk about several more of her girlfriends.
At first she was turned on by this too but i think my attention on these other girls and my insistence that she tell me tainted the fun for her.
We started to do it less and less and later she would VERY grudgingly do it but was unhappy to.
I'm not into the person I'm having sex with being coerced or feeling pressured so I dropped the issue.

The only other partner it's happened with (I haven't been with a ton of women or anything) is my wife with her describing her best friend who we both had the hots for.
The best sex of my life without a doubt.
(long gone now...)

So anyway, to OP, Shihoin, I say thank you for even allowing a version of my greatest perversion--one which seems to never be represented anywhere in porn or written erotica, or even people's personal experiences on message boards like this--to be discussed.

Good point as usual, Anonjohn.

Because the "female gaze", as I see it, supposedly lacks the "lustful" characteristic attributed to men's "gaze"; women might feel it is not necessarily inappropriate. But it has elements of "assessment" and "comparison" that are not necessarily healthy either. I've talked about the large breasted woman at my resort. The first thing my wife did was assess her attractiveness: "I guess she will be popular with the men here"; then related them to her own breasts size: "I don't know if I would like having breasts that big..." and "at least I can go braless and still be comfortable..." I don't think many husbands would look at another man's penis, and have the same thoughts about it lol!

On another note; up until last year, my wife was vehemently opposed to shaving. She felt a light trim was more than enough. Then, out of the blue, she started shaving bald. That coincided with us spending a lot more time with nudist friends. Putting two and two together, I figured out that her pussy had been looked at by one of the other women (who are all bald), in a way that she felt was judgmental of her "pubic hairline." Making her self-conscious and leading to her decision to go bald. She has herself admitted to being conscious of the women in our group checking out each other's naked bodies and assessing each other's "naked esthetics."

But it's not necessarily a bad thing either. My wife keep herself in shape for nudism; not to appeal to the men folks, but rather to elicit a positive assessment from the other women. Ironically, my wife would not have gotten to her current level of comfort being naked socially without the "female gaze."

My impression is that most women are way more bothered about what other women think of them, than they are about what men think of them, even while only being attracted to men.

Revelation
 

I'm at the far end of Town, so call at the In-Laws for a Cuppa. He's storming around. Then she arrives. Unknown to all, she is being Bare-Backed Down Town to take care of a Family Debt. "Did you use the Spermicide?" he bawled. "Do you prefer HIM to me?" "NO!" she responded, "I used the last in the tube ! But HE (pointing to me) is better equipped!" "Yes!" he retorted," I know!" "But I've had longer," she said "but NOT wider!"

Then it transpired that as a School Leaver she'd been Employed as a Personal Assistant to the Area manager of a National Company. She was employed to cater for his sexual urges, even taking in a record player to drown-out the cries of her Office fucking ! There are Tunes she still cannot stand ! She also had to cater for his Clients Demands in his efforts to gain Bonus Sales and Promotion. Then take Him, and his Replacement, in daily prolonged "double-penetrations"! No wonder she was desperate to Marry ! But WHO first tutored this Teenager in Sexual Matters ?

Is this AI generated porn?

IQ
 

Sorry. Passed 11+. Then "O" Levels. That's all ! Just a moment in time memory of a quite surprising event.

Discussions with my BFF
 

I'm no longer married so just female friends and close BFFs. I recently went of vacation to southern China with my BFF#2 and booked into a nice Marriott seaside resort. We walked around and I was telling her there are a lot of really hot looking young women in the resort.

During our mid-day sex on the balcony overlooking the pool and sea, she said to me "you know I don't mind having sex with the lady in the short skirt at the bar. Her body is very nice she's beautiful".
I was shocked to hear this and her comments made my cock even harder than it was knowing she was straight.
I said to her "the lady was no older than 30", my BFF is 46. She said she's okay having sex with a younger women, younger women have more energy and juice". She's also okay to try an older woman as long as she have a nice body and pretty face. As long as the woman is okay to have sex with me I'm happy.
I asked if I could watch. She didn't respond.

I tested her out when we got back from China.

Her in the hotel room packing to leave.

https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/1bb...l=17 00450254

wife taking a close look at her friends
 

My wife is always very interested in seeing other people naked, especially attractive women. For my enjoyment she likes to talk about her observations with a lot of attention to detail.

She likes to go to the Sauna with her female friends or sometimes has to share a room with her female colleagues.
When she get's home after a trip with her friends she always tells me about boob size, shape, pubic hair, pussy lips shape and colour and so on.
Over the years I got detailed discriptions of a lot of her friends and colleagues - maybe I should have written them down :D

Hey, could you share some details about the sort of descriptions she has provided, how many of her friends are shaved vs hairy etc.

Of course! I really should have written it down...

Regarding shaved vs hairy:
My wife has had a trimmed bush with shaved lips for a few years now. Before that she had a landing strip, back when we first met she was completely shaved.

As far as I remember almost all of her friends are shaved. There was one of her colleagues who was hairy with a huge untrimmed bush but she was the only one.

Her friends often look at my wifes bush with great interest, some even made comments or ask questions
They mostly ask what I think about it especially for oral sex (I love it :D )

The last description I remember in detail was when my wife shared a hotel room with a female colleague. It was a small room with a double bed and the bathroom was tiny and had no room to put their clothes. So they had to undressed in front of each other in the bedroom. Also they went for a swim in a nearby lake and just changed into their swimwear in front of each other in the open.

My wife discribed her tits as small and perky with small pink nipples. Her pussy was freshly shaven with small outer labia and her inner labia slightly peeking out. She always compares butts to fruits, her colleague apparently had an apple shaped but.

The most descriptive my wife has ever been was after returning from a tropical vacation with her "now-ex" best friend. Her friend was nude for a good part of the vacation.

"Heavy round tits - with a bit of a sag - on a tiny frame. Completely shaven, with a small vulva."

I realized she wasn't telling me this to get me fantasizing about her friend. She was telling me this because she was envious. My wife does not have big tits or a tiny frame, was not shaven (at the time), and her vulva isn't exactly small.

Even though she is now a nudist (she wasn't back then), she still compares her body to others' at the resort. She is likely to pay a lot more attention to women she deems "hotter than her" and scrutinize their naked bodies. That's also the reason she started shaving bald. She deemed shaven women to be more attractive; and it was something more easily in her control.

Wife sharing hotelroom with coworker
 

My wife just returned from a workshop over the Weekend. She was acompanied by a female colleague (Anna) shes friends with. They get along very well and also meet outside of work, I have also met her. Shes in her late 20s, blonde, long hair, tall and athletic.

They shared a hotel room for one night. Doublebed was cheaper so they agreed to share a bed.

My wife sent a selfie with her colleague and I immediatly thought: "her boobs are bigger than I remembered.... "

When my wife returned she told me about the trip.
In the evening after the workshop they went for a walk and talked a lot. Anna told my wife that she was pregnant but really early (week 5). She noticed because her boobs got bigger :D of course I told my wife that I have also noticed her boobs and she laughed.

When the girls returned to their room they changed to their pyjamas.
My wife undressed first, she stripped completly naked and walked to her suitcase to get the old oversized tshirt she usually sleeps in. It is white, very thin and barely covers her ass. She wore no panties. While my wife was naked they just continued with their conversation.

Then her colleague started to undress. She removed her shirt and bra and my wife said "wow, they are really much bigger" Anna turned red but did not cover up. She grabbed her boobies, looked at them in the mirror and said "a few more weeks and they are as big as yours". They both laughed and Anna but a Shirt on. Unfortunately she jept her panties on.

Of course I asked my wife to describe her tits: they were a small C cup, a bit saggy, with hard tiny pink nipples. Anna was tanned but no tan lines on her tits so she must enjoy tanning topless.

While sleeping my wife moved around a lot. She told me when she woke up she was lying on her back and wasn't covered by the blanket anymore. Her shirt slipped up now barely covering her boobies, but her pussy and trimmed bush was fully exposed. Anna was already awake brushing her teeth so she must have seen.

For a long time Anna, her husband and my wife and me wanted to visit the sauna together but never found the time to do so. Now I am really curious. ;)

A friend's milkers
 

My wife told me about a woman who worked with us in a large company. This woman had just had a baby and was very busty. My wife said the woman would stand in front of the mirror in the bathroom and express milk by just squeezing her nipples, no pump needed, she sprayed it directly into a bottle. I wanted to hear more, but that was all I got.

I was seeing a butterface in highschool and she was talking about her friend with huge boobs. Her friend was going on a first date so my gf was giving her tips. She was horrified that her friend was going out wearing floral granny panties. All I could think of was how that was an unbelievable combo. Huge tits, cotton panties and probably a decent bush.

During a conversation after my wife got back from a girls weekend away she told me that she was just relieved she won’t have to see her friends naked for a while now. She said they were all very comfortable in front of each other and were usually naked together when getting ready etc.

I was obviously interested and asked questions and she went into great detail about them all. Who had the biggest boobs, who had larger areolas, who had a bush and who was shaved etc.

She could clearly tell I was enjoying picturing them all so was giving me as much info as possible

Offhand remark at work
 

I worked for a large telcom company. There were two younger women who worked in the mail room / reproduction department. One was a petite redhead, maybe 5 foot two, maybe 100 pounds, probably an A-cup. The other was a thin blonde, about 5-7, and was a C or D cup. They were both very nice, but the redhead decided to make a play for my affection. I enjoyed the attention, but nothing was going to happen because 1) I was married, and 2) I had a solid middle-management position and wouldn't do anything to jeopardize that.

We had convenience copiers scattered around, but the fast, heavy-duty Kodak copier was in their department. One day I was in the mail/repro room getting a thousand-page technical document copied. The redhead and I were joking around, and the blonde stopped by the counter to join in the conversation. We had a few yucks, then the blonde went away to tend to other duties. The redhead noticed that I was scoping out the blonde's ass as she left. She said "yeah, she looks great clothed, but I've seen her naked. Without her bra those tits hang down to her waist."

I wanted to say "thanks for the warning," but thought better of it.

Wife does a lot of that at the nudist beach