Have you ever said no
 

Assume that you encounter a lady, say at the next table when you are dining alone, while traveling. A conversation happens, she's not unpleasant, but definitely not very hot (however you define hot), but certainly less pretty, less well built, older, heavier.
Anyway, things develop, and she makes it very clear that she is up for some male companionship, and, maybe even that she just wants to fuck. Maybe even makes an overt move. Now given that this is a random encounter, unlikely to lead to a long term relationship, have you ever just said "no"?
I'm sure we've all gotten to the next stage, where hygeine or something similar suddenly halts the action, but earlier, when it gets to the "are you interested?" stage, when do you say no? Do you feel it's your job to "make the move"?

I'm attaching a few photos from the OCC archives, just to serve as a discussion starter, of ladies who are maybe a little less than 10's. Who do you proceed to fuck, and try to make feel attractive, and try to help have an orgasm or 16, and who do you say "sorry, not interested to?"
Whatever you did, stay and fuck or ride off into the sunset, how did it go? Did one or more of the 2's turn out to be good fucks?

That's sort of the point. Normally, the process is drivn by mutual attraction, which means a pleasing demeanor and a pleasing face and body. Normally, if I'm not that attracted physically, I never make a move, so the issue is moot. But, I do like talking to interesting people, so sometimes these situations develop. In some cases, however, she makes the move on you (e.g. suddenly turning to kiss you, and putting a tongue in your mouth), and these are not hookers, just really horney women who clearly aren't 10's). What does one do?
I must admit that I've never said no. While I can't say I've been in a garden of visual delights while fucking them, many (indeed most) were responsive, wet, orgasmic, vocally appreciative, actively interesting in "exploring" (oral with swollowing, anal). One particular example was a 65 year old, chubby, red headed school teacher, granny.......started with a conversation about schools, as she was at an adjacent table in the hotel diner. We finished dinner, took the same elevator, and she moved in on me, kissing and groping me as soon as the elevator doors closed, as they say it came out of the blue. Turns out she could cum about ever 3-4 min as long as I would lay between her legs and rub my finger over her clitty, which was hard to see behind her red bush. At some point, she liked the taste of my cum, too.
I can't say I wanted to introduce them to my buddies, and in only a very few did I "call them up later" (I did the granny teacher, anyone that responsive is worth fucking multiple times). It sort of goes with the old saying "make an ugly woman your wife and you'll be happy for the rest of your life".
Anyone else have these experiences.

Yes, more than once
 

I have been telling " no " twice to 2 different women.
Thé first time, in 2000, I was the President of a non-profit association (1901 Law in France) and was organazing a party in a nightclub for a humanitarian cause. My younger brother was a DJ in this nightclub, who had 2 different rooms, the main one with afro and and caribbean music, and the second one, smaller, where m'y younger brother was djing, with Rap / R&B and dancehall (electronic reggae with hip hop flavors for those who don't know, with artists like Sean Paul, Sizzla, Beenie Man, Capleton, Elephant Man....) music. My younger brother was back then a beginner in djing and was taught for an older and more expériences DJ, who was one of thé 3 DJs who were djing in my party (+ a famous R&B singer who has had a few hits in France and was having a showcase in our party). This older DJ who was teaching to l'y older brother, and a girlfriend but was very unfaithful, I learned a few days mater that if you were in town each day you would be likely to find him with a différent girl :) So, one of her lovers, a very pretty and tall girl, was helping us at the. changing room, and hardly 5 minutes After she had arrives and was preparing for her work, as I was helping her, she suddenly proposed me to fuck with her. I saïd no, it was not the right time, we were working, and furthermore I would never do that to a man I know and respect, even if she was very attractive. I had been knowing her for only a few days, we had talked only a few minutes before we were working at that party, and nonneed tobtell I had already been knowing a few things about her that I didn't like at all (but it's useless to talk about it in here).
Thé second Time, in 2007, I was back then working for a comptant with 250 , to 300 employees, with a lot of quite young women, some attractive and other. way less attractive. A female co-worker, much younger, and smaller than me, but not very attractive to me (even if not ugly at all) came to me as I was in the resting room(with PCs for personal Internet connections) for 30 minutes (my work was to sell at phone, I just had very good results and been talked to test for 30 minutes. I was in this resting room, checking my e-mails for a few minutes, as I had no smartphone back then, when this female co-worker came besides me, and After a few seconds, proposed me to fuck with her. I saïd no, I was not attracted to her, it was not the right time (I didn't want to fuck at work), and, more than all, I was a lot more attracted to another female co-worker, taller and way prettier, and, furthermore, who had already send me a few évident signs she was also interested in me (WE were working together for only a few things, and I didn't want to rush the things and was willing to get to know her better before beginning a love relationship with her (she was living a 100 kms from work, I was with her only during work, it was difficult to plan a date with her after work as she was coming back home by train every evening, and she was living with her parents back then. Halas, I didn't had the luck to start a love relatioship with her, she suddenly felt ill a few weeks later, she had not a very good health and was very tired with her work and her transportation by train, 3 jours every day. When she got back to my town to find a work (there were way more work in my town than in her own town), a few months later, she already had a boyfriend :( I was very disappointed, ni need to tell.

Beyond belief
 

Hi

Reading this , it appears that the contributors all look like Brad Pittt :eek:

Stupidly now I look back - in my younger biker days I was too fussy. Plenty of the young ladies in the biker cafes would accept a ride for a ride - but I (regrettably now!) declined quite a few.

Not at all
 

Not at all. It's not because we are all looking like Brad Pitt. I'm sorry, but I am not willing to fuck with anyone who wants to fuck with me. I am not a dog, I have respect for myself and for the women I have been in love relationship in the past, and the one I will be in the future. I know who I am, what I want and do not want, and what I deserve. It's not all about their beauty, it's also about their mind, their temper...
If your don't respect yourself, good to you, but that's not what I do, if you have big problems in the future because of thèse ladies, you will know that it will be YOUR fault and you will get what you deserve.
Grow up a little, young padawan.

yes
 

Yes, plenty of times to ugly women, and the man haters who are in compitition w men attitudes...

ALSO, the beautiful who think their beauty will allow them to get away w anything......

Iv have always been picky, and not NOT desperate to patronize women......

Couple stories from younger days.

I met up with a buddy and his girlfriend and her friend. His girlfriend was pretty but her friend… not so much. We had drinks at his place and eventually he and his girl snuck off to his room to fuck. As soon as they were gone her friend came on to me and asked to sick my dick. The whole situation was a turn off. She was overweight (which I’m not totally against, many overweight women are quite attractive and sexy) but she carried it poorly. No tits, huge gut, no butt. Built like a candied apple. Plus it was clear I could be anyone and this was how this girl got some form of self worth from finding guys to blow. I turned her down and she got annoyed but we had another drink and watched tv and she tried again and I shot her down again. This time she left and when my buddies girlfriend came out of his room when they were done fucking she asked what happened and I told her. She called me an asshole and left too. Guess you’re an asshole if you don’t let someone you’re not interested in suck your dick?

Another time was going out with a group of five. Two girls, three guys. All friends from high school and all single. As the night drew on everyone had gone except me and one of the girls. Suddenly I became very aware how drunk she was. She was slurring and having trouble walking. I couldn’t leave her so I got her back to her apartment and immediately sat her on the couch. I took a seat in a chair and thought I’d hang out a bit to make sure she was ok. She suddenly got up and it was clear she had peed herself as her pants were wet and the couch was wet. She mumbled something about the bathroom so I took her hand and led her to the bathroom. She entered and I shut the door behind her. She was in there fifteen minutes or so and I thought of stories of people choking on their vomit and stuff and started to debate with myself if I should check on her but I didn’t have to. The door to the bathroom opened and she came back out naked from the waist down. Her shirt covered most of her but I could see her brown bush and when she passed me her bare cheeks hanging below the shirt. She grabbed onto my shoulders and plopped onto my lap and tried to kiss me but she smelled so bad of booze and was just so drunk it was a huge turn off and also I’d never take advantage of that situation. I stood her up and moved her to the bed (it was a studio apartment, one big room). She passed out immediately and I put her blanket over her. I made myself comfortable in the chair and dozed on and off until the morning. I suddenly woke up to her tapping my shoulder. She had taken a shower and had a robe on. She asked what happened and if we had had sex. I told her what had gone on and she was very embarrassed and apologized profusely. Of course I said it was no big deal. A few weeks later we did actually hook up in a similar less drunken night but that’s another story.

It was legitimately “want me to suck your dick?”

Like the assumption that all guys are ready willing and eager at all times for any woman.

I would not have said "no" - I just would not have looked down!

I once had a friend who’s sister was hot for me, but I was not even remotely interested in her. She was a bit to big for my taste, and had a mouth on her like a drunken sailor on shore leave. One time she flat out ask me if I wanted to fuck, I told her something that really pist off…. NO !!!!

I had a similar incident, but in my case I flat out told her I wasn’t interested. I also had a incident with a friends gross sister that had the hots for me, but I already posted about that.

just once
 

Only time that comes to mind had nothing to do with how the woman looked, but it was because she was dating a friend.

College, he was away for the weekend but she was still over at the apartment drinking with a bunch of people. Nothing unusual about that. It got uncomfortable (let's say) at the end of the night when I had gone to quite likely pass out in my room. I was startled awake and it was her on top of me kissing me. I was startled, and extremely drunk so not overly comfortable to begin with, but was surprised to find a tongue in my mouth. I had enough faculties to know who she was and that she was dating my friend so pushed her off and stammered out my objections.

She kept going. "He won't care", "He's not here", "it's ok". She gave it another go but this time was pulling down my pants and started going down on me. For some reason I just didn't and couldn't let it happen so again had to tell her to stop. She gave it a few more tries, and again I still had to stop her.

She finally gave up, I'm thinking between my objections and the likelihood that I wasn't getting hard due to my drunken state.

Over the years, i flip flop on whether I should have let her continue or not.

Alaska NO
 

I was just stationed in Alaska and one of the Sergeants over me was a divorced slim hard-bodied redhead. She was always making 'suggestions' when we were alone and openly flirted with me in my home in front of my wife. Part of her history was when partying in a club in Korea, she was with 9 guys, she then went in a backroom and sucked/fucked 8 of them, the 9th guy pissed off, filmed her actions (no I don't have the pics) but her husband got them, and divorced her. On more than one occasion I told her NO, one of the other guys in my shop did fuck her and she was always trying to make his life miserable. I think I made the right choice.
A side note about AK is that the married women were always looking for married men to a degree I never saw before. My wifes co-worked routinely propositioned me until I just started talking filthy to her and she just stopped, I think the wife sorta knew and we never said anything, but she was pleased.

Wasnt worth the risk
 

There was a girl I worked with, nice personality, little on the chunky side, but a lot of her weight went to her tits.
Anyway, one evening after work, we were all together having a few drinks and she mentioned that she had lost her phone at the weekend and using the 'wheres my phone' feature, tracked it down to a rather dodgy part of the city.

We all told her she was mad knocking on some random dudes door on her own, but her reply was 'I had to get it back, it had all my nudes on there'.
Obviously, this piqued my curiosity. :)

Cut to a month or two later, and I was leaving the company and had a few people out for leaving drinks.
The girl in question had had a few and wanted to keep partying, so, I headed back to her place for a few more drinks. Was flirting a bit with her and brought the convo around to if she still had her nudes on her phone. When she nodded, I told her to send me one of them.

I was expecting more resistance, but she did. I took advantage of her willingness and told her to take her clothes off and I would take some more of her with her phone.
She did and I snapped some gratuitous ones.

Somehow, managed to convince her that a pic with my cock in her mouth would look really good, and she complied.
Then she started really going to town on my cock, ramming it down her throat until she gagged, then recovering and doing it again. Her make up was smeared from her eyes watering and yet she kept on smacking my balls with her chin.
After a while, she rolled on to her back and started playing with a dildo whilst talking dirty to me, about how she'd like to lick my wife's asshole whilst I fucked her from behind, then if we wanted we could both piss on her.
Then she started telling me about some of the shit she had let other guys do to her. Some pretty nasty stuff.

She then grabbed my cock to guide it in to her and I told her I didnt have a condom. She said she didnt care and that's when I made the call that I wasnt going to fuck her.
She looked hurt and asked why, and I guess with all the alcohol in me, decided to be honest and told her I didnt know where she'd been, or rather, I had a pretty good idea where she had.

Eventually she settled for taking a load to the face, which she took like a champ :)

She cleaned up and I told her I was going to transfer the pics I'd taken to my phone.
She came back in and fell asleep. I got dressed and left.

Next day, she texted to say her only regret was letting me have the pics. So, like a gentleman, I told her I'd delete them, though in hindsight, the way she had phrased it, I think she wanted me to 'blackmail' her not to share them.

Ah well.

I had a similar situation, in which I had no condom and was faced with the choice of having sex with a risky woman or not and I (foolishly) decided to fuck her. After some urging a gay friend convinced to be get tested and while I came back clean it was nerve-racking and I decided to keep a ho-bag on me at all times, lol.

But you played it smart.

I can only remember a few times that I've said no. One was a girl I was dating when I was 24. It was someone I worked with. I believe she was 19 at the time. We went out a few times. Things got pretty hot one night and she really wanted the D. She was nice enough but not someone I wanted a long term thing with. That wouldn't have mattered if she wasn't a virgin. But seeing that she was, I didn't want to be that guy so I said no and told her why.

Another was someone I knew for a number of years. It was the ex wife of a guy I know but I'm not close friends with him. She's a nice person but not someone I'm physically attracted to. Kind of a big boned/big woman. She'd hit on me once in awhile and I'd kind of laugh it off. One night she went for it and kissed me while we were standing outside a club. It was a quick kiss that I joked about so she didn't feel bad.

There has been an occasional women that I'd do and not even tell my best friend about. But they had some qualities that I really liked (probably very large breasts).

There is one woman I dated that generally wouldn't be my type (met on POF). But she was fun, outgoing and great to talk to. And she looked nice when she got dressed up. It was when she wasn't dressed up and didn't have make-up on that is the problem. I know I don't look like good 'ol Brad Pitt when he was 25 but I don't have trouble getting women and I know what I like. So she'd have a good night, fuck like rabbits after we got home, I'd fall asleep and she'd take her make up off. Then I'd look at her in the morning and think "I'm not coming back again". Then the next weekend she's say "I have tickets for us to goto _____". And I was like, Okay. we'll go". I eventually ended that. Just faded away.

The only times I’ve said no was when I sensed behavioral red flags; clinginess, Fatal Attraction-type crazy, a little too much emotional investment after too little time. The type of stuff that makes you say to yourself, ‘yeah, this might be more trouble than it’s worth’.

Yes, it has happened to me. God knows why. I'm no adonis.

Decades ago, the wife of an old university friend stayed overnight with my girfriend and me. She was in the area for a conference. The next day, my girlfriend got up early to go to work, but I had a day off. I was expecting the lady would be wanting to get away to see her family, but she didn't get her bus until the afternoon. At one point she dropped a massive hint by telling that she loved having sex. I enjoyed her company, but there was no way I'd have betrayed my girlfriend or my friend. Also she had kids and I didn't want to risk being responsible for breaking up her family. When I told my girlfriend about my day, she thought it was funny that I'd passed on the opportunity. So no brownie points for loyalty from her.

Years later at my annual works dinner, a woman who I was talking to over the table said "Would you like to fuck me?" She was obviously only interested in me because I was the boss. I didn't find that in the least appealing.

More recently, a friend's wife propositioned me on a night out. When no one except me could hear, she the most ridiculous words that I've ever heard "I want you to make mad passionate love to me." Trying not to offend her, I said that she didn't really mean it. She that I should call at her house during the day when husband was at work. This would be on her birthday so I could use dropping off a card as an excuse to my wife. I said that it wasn't going to happen.