Lack of toplessness on beaches
 

On holiday it is absolutely depressing how little topless sunbathingbgoes on today on the beaches of the Mediterranean.

Day 1. I looked across the typical Spanish beach and, where around 20 to 30 years ago you would see women with their tops on would be in the minority, today the exact opposite is the case. I went to the pool earlier in the day and the beach in the afternoon where I walked a km up and down the coast. In that time saw only 9 pairs of breasts!

The first was at the pool where a young lady casually changed from her bikini top to bra before leaving- there was not one women toples sunbathing around the pool! The others were all sunbathing at the beach . I didn't get a good look at two of them and they wee both 20 somethings and very trim and beautiful; one was sunbathing lying on her front, the other managed to cover herself up a lot of the time.

The other 6 were all 40 or 50 somethings and were very openly topless. Just disappointing that many more tits were not on show. I am desperate my wife will be confident to shed her top like she used to, but not if she's in the minority!

In italy no topless at all. In Spain, at least in Barcelona and the Costa Brava, topless is still frequent but not a majority.

That's the modern world where there is a camera in every pocket. Just wait until the video/photo glasses get perfected. Nothing will be safe...

On the plus side: this also makes it double as hot if your girl is one of the few (or only one) going topless. ;)

My ex would often be the only one topless of her age (early twenties) and sometimes the only one topless at all. I have fond memories of her being the only one topless at the swimming pool area of a hotel, while having casual conversations with me, or reading a book, or applying sunscreen to her body (nothing as hot as a girl applying sunscreen to her breasts in public, right?).

The downside is that the lack of toplessness raises the threshold for other women to go topless. My other girlfriends never wanted to go topless, unfortunately... :(

Camera phones unfortunately are what I think are to blame. There was plenty of topless ladies at certain non nude beaches that I frequented. The odd nude bather too up until 2010ish.

My wife would often go topless at the beach (not that we went to the beach alot) as it was just safer. She didn't mind being seen, as it was a then and there thing.

A few years back we went to a somewhat busy clothing optional beach, and she caught at least 3 guys snapping pictures of her while she was sitting topless and nude. She wasn't too happy about it but wanted to tan and eventually just got on with it with it towel over her face.

As hot as it was it was also the end of busy beach visits.

times changed
 

My wife was always topless or nude at beaches in France, Spain, The Netherlands or Croatia. Unfortunately the "camera-on" mentality changed her habits in a a way that only Croatia will see my wife naked at the beach. My wife (and now also my daughters) are always checking the whole beach for guys with cameras or taking long "telephone calls" before they change or even drop parts of their swim dresses.

As many people have replied, and as it has been discussed many times before, it is a sad truth. Throughout the 90s, in Spain and especially in Greece toplessness was the rule, as was changing clothes or swimsuits at the beach, and women were often nude. As I wrote in other threads, on Greek beaches I've seen women and girls of all ages and shapes sunbathing and swimming without a stitch on. However, despite the appearances, society has become more conservative, sometimes paradoxically under the guise of being more open and liberal. And then, the omnipresent camera phones did the rest. :(

Less toplessness indeed and unfortunately.
However, since my wife doesn't like tanlines, we now choose to go to nude beaches instead of regular ones.
Benefit is that nude beaches are less crowded and more relax. Besides that, how strange it may sound, most pervs taking pics for some reason are too shy to drop their pants on a nude beach. So less issues with guys taking unwanted pics.

In Canaries recently, was surprised by the frequent sight of topless women out for a stroll amongst the crowds walking along the shoreline at Maspalonas.

Marginally more successful today;12 pairs of tits in total. We walked the entire length of the beach and saw 2 in pretty much half the day! Then, just outside the restaurant we had lunch, I saw the other 10 pairs over a 15 min window. Amazing, but completely understandable, that the topess women would congregate in one area!.

My wife compensated on the "lack of norks" too and said it was undoubtedly due to the proliferation of smart phones and social media. What a regressive workdvwe live in; and I'm fully aware of the irony of me posting these comments on a forum.

Cyprus,particularly Nissi beach its few and far between. And not officially any nice beacyesei5ger. The odd beach where people risk it's usually men. And just back from Italy. Again, hardly any topless bathing

I too am saddened by how conservative women are being these days (but thanks to cellphones, I understand). Granted, the up-the-ass bikini bottoms have become pretty standard, but I miss nipples kissing the sky.

Luckily, I have a spouse who isn't so prudish...will be at Desire Riviera Maya next month and can guarantee no prudishness on anybody's part.

From the beaches I've visited the last decade, the beaches of Gran Canaria and Barcelona stood out. On those beaches there were far more topless women than average, although it still was a minority.

At Maspalomas beach the topless women were mostly older (45+), at Playa de Amadores there were more younger women topless.

Our hotel at Gran Canaria had a large swimming pool. Around the swimming pool there were topless women, but again a minority and mostly older (45+).

Of course, this is just my experience. It might be different next time I visit. :)

NZ same story
 

Same here in NZ, we rarely see an topless these days.. not sure if it's the fear of being capture on a phone or just a shift in the mentality generally... hard to tell.

Agree
 

Sadly, I must agree.
Twenty years ago, it was normal for wife and me to take long, completely naked strolls on our beach, just 60 miles from home. We usually met other nude people, and a lot of topless women.
Now we would probably be arrested, or taken to the asylum.

That's why we started to spend our holyday abroad (France, North Europe).

Agreed, but..
 

Hi all,

I agree with this situation. We are from France and my wife have ever been topless topless over the years, since ever.
She's 47 now and still goes topless at the beach.
At some point she says that she will continue this "French tradition" and talks about everywhere around. Everybody knows that she goes topless at the beach.
She even no bra the whole year under her clothes and whe she comes to the beach, she has no bikini top at all.

The place we usually go in France is place where topless continues to be the rule, even if there less than before.
We can see topless from every age, young to old and even families. (daugters and mother, sisters, etc.)
We again, less than before and it depends the days too. Someday you'll se around up to 20 girls topless around you and the next day 5. Really depends.

But was has changed is that my wife keeps her top on know at the swimingpool or at the lake when there is no other woman doing so. She'll remove her top if at least one other does it.
But at the beach, she doesn't care, even if she's alone.

Let me know if you want more info or ping me to have private discussions.

It's similar here locally.

Every summer, the biggest news outlet always interviews a woman who does her best to remind people that it is perfectly legal for women to be topless in our city and our city parks/beaches, but I have never, ever seen a topless woman here (other than the woman on TV who they interview with her toplessness blurred out).

Huge bummer! But the harassment isn't worth it, I am sure.

Bonjour Familleplage, I would welcome the opportunity to have a further discussion with you about clothing optional or nude beaches in Europe but I can't send PM to you for some reason. If you are interested, would you send me an email to jhenry123 at protonmail dot com?

Thanks!

Camera and mobile free beaches
 

Everyone have a supercomputer with a supercamera connected to a super network that can share a picture or video to all mankind within seconds. For most people, having a topless or nude picture spread on the internet is a personal disaster.

Only solution is to have camera and mobile free beaches, but that's not possible on public beaches.

Agree with wellness and others above. My wife says the advent of smart phones and the Internet has killed topless sunbathing for the next generation. "If you were a beautiful 20 or 30 something why would you risk ending up on a porn site"?

She also confirmed that, where there were topless sunbathers in close proximity it certainly gives shy girls confidence to shed their tops; as mentioned the other day when all the topless girls were on one bit of the beach - wife confirmed this was why so many were together and would help her, and any women, pluck up the courage to shed their top if enough other topless women were in close vercinity.

I did a bit of crude estimation and maths today and reckon about 5% of the women were topless. Thiscseemed high when thinking of it in thebcontext of what I wascseeing. However, I think maybe 20-30 years ago a range of 30-70 % was more typical dependant upon beach.

I was wondering given the thought that others being topless gave courage to others that may not be, plus
Today's smart phones, what would be a critical mass minimum % that would start to tip the balance to those sort of figures. I guess if you had a minimum number it would likely gather momentum. And is there still anywhere like that in the world.

Cameras vs Advertising Industry
 

Smartphones with cameras are just one important reason. Equally devastating is the power of the advertising industry. When the bodice industry went bad for a decade from the end of the 60s in the braless period, the underwear was invented in bright colors. It became the norm to show the bra straps. The majority went with that fashion, and finally the bodice industry made sales again.
Today, social media is defining what woman wears. And again, the advertising industry is driving it.
Women are tired of being compared to photoshopped ads.

Just found this 30m video.
Zandvoort beach in The Netherlands, 25 years ago ... topless heaven.
Before the internet became known and popular, somebody was filming with a (rather big) camera and nobody objected.

https://www.dumpert.nl/item/100039021_8d92d1fd

To view it, you must create a free account and set the NSFW option to allowed.

Thanks a lot for this video, this is how it was !
I've seen this video a long time ago, thanks to remember it.

Not any more it's not. There is a small %, like I said I'd estimate maybe no more that 5% of local, mainly older 40+ women, who will be tanning topless on Spainish beaches but that's it these days. I was there today on a beach near Barcelona where it is mainly spainish, German and Dutch holidaymakers, and I saw 4 pairs of tits all day, out of maybe a couple of hundred women in bikinis. Long gone are the Spanish, French, Greek beaches of 20 years ago where most locals and foreign tourists would be topless. Europe has changed remarkably in that respect in a generation.

Agreed, same in Belgium, the Netherlands and even in Scandinavian countries.
That said, I do notice a shift in more people visiting nude beaches or looking for less crowded beaches to tan topless or naked.

Last time we were in Denmark, I literally saw 1 topless lady (50+) on a (crowded) public beach.
However, we do love to hike and picknick in nature/on the beach. We have encountered a few dozen people in more secluded areas, of which at least 80% were topless, but mostly naked (including my own wife).

the new normal
 

My wife was always naked or at least topless at the beach. With the development of digital photo cameras and the popular high resolution phone cameras she started to be more "vigilant" to guys walking around and doing this important telephone calls in our vicinity. Now with two daughters and a son, we still go to nudist beaches, but my wife and the daughters "scan" the whole area before they drop any clothes. They prefer to stay at least a hundred meter away from any stranger (they figured out that this is the minimum distance to ensure they cannot be recognized on photo).
This leads to very funny moments. When I see my daughters running out of the water like being chased by a shark, but reason is that a beach "walker" is approaching and they do not want to be stuck in the water until the guy is further away, I often have to laugh. But it happened once that one of these guys were actually hanging around to wait and see them leaving the water. My wife got aware of it and approached the guy while our son was running to the waterline with towels for the girls to cover up.

My wife is still topless at the beach, even this year.
But she will not if some friends from my son are with us, as she don't want have photos from her shared by this young guy, not for her, but for my son.
As she said, she will not be the shame for our son if some images should be shared on any social network in regards to our son.

But for her self, she don't care. It's how she is and there many pictures that have been taken from her in the past.
I have even seen some friends photo albums , photos from the 90's where she's topless with her friends.
That's normal, that's how she is.

Also, we already met some peoples we know a the beach and she was topless. And again, as she's at the beach, that's not an issue.

We were at lake 2 weeks ago with friends, nobody was topless so she kept her top on.
One daugther from our friends had some troubles with her bikini top moving, a nipple showed up, my wife told her to remove it, and she will do it too, but the girl did not, and unfortunately my wife kept it on too.

A couple interesting observations I've made reflecting on my recent time in Spain, after the initial crushing disappointment of the lack of topless sunbathing.
Firsty, topless sunbathing does still happen. Over-the-counter course of the daycare the beach I estimated about 5%. However, these were almost always is little pockets on the beach. Some times the women were friends; the small groups of couples I saw where all the women had she'd their bikini tops made me incredibly envious - the women looked great and confident. But almost always there were women sunbathing topless near each other who didn't know each other, but were clearly encouraged to expose their breasts when they saw others close by that were also. There was one spot where every day I knew a Spanish group would turn up and their ladies would go topless. We made sure we sat close to them and sure enough other women outside their group would start to reveal their tots too. Unfortunately this didn't give my wife the courage to follow suit, but I hope this strategy will on future visits now I've seen it play out with others.

Secondly, once I realised that women weren't now lying with their tits exposed all day in case someone snapped a photo of them, but not necessarily because they had suddenly got more prudish re anyone seeing them, I realised that there were still a lot of tits to see, just not on show permanently.
I made sure I sat near some if the showers between the beach and the camping area, and also kept a casual eye on who was looking like leaving soon. Sure enough refocusing my attention to that I say a dozen more pairs than I would have just looking for topless sunbathers. There was one English mum who lay with her bikini top on (in various states on untidiness) all day without ever exposing her tits whilst sunbathing. Then 4pm comes around, she walks off the beach to the open shower area, pulls her top off over her head, and rinses the sand off her topless for 30 seconds, all the whole with me casually enjoying her tanlined tits and big nipples. She must have though the chances of a photo were much lower that way so it was low risk until she wrapped a sarong around herself.
So perhaps this is the future. Perhaps I can persuade my wife to be as equally relaxed about casual brief moments of exposing herbtits to others if the topless sunbathing is no more.

My wife too is now less inclined to go topless on the beach because of the phone camera risk. However, now rather than having them on show all day her thing now is to give brief ‘innocent’ and ‘accidental’ glimpses of her tits, e.g changing from bikini top to t shirt, swapping wet bikini top for a dry one etc. it’s actually still a big thrill, bigger in many ways because she appears to be reluctant to let people see them and other guys get to see forbidden goods. This of course also plays into her plausible deniability cover. We were on holiday in menorca with her friends family this summer and she would ‘quickly’ change her top and expose her tits to her friends husband and son. It puts the onus on them to not look or turn away. But of course that didn’t happen and hopefully there was plenty of beating off after days at the beach after they both thought they had ‘got lucky’ seeing my wife’s tanlined 32Cs!

I've just done an interesting (to me anyway) little exercise. I've gone through my wife's old photo albums and photos I have and searched for just standard beach shots from Spain, mainly ibiza. The photos had to be of a busy beach in the middle of the day (there really are s lot of photos of sinsets!) That search wasn't that productive so I they trawled flikr for people's holiday snaps from ibiza and whatever busy mainland resorts I could think to search for. All the photos however had to be taken between 1998 and 2003.

I then counted up how many women in the background there were, and how many if them were topless. Then I added up the numbers.

I made sure I didn't include any obviously staged topless shots of people's girlfriends or wives, and i tried to not include any obvious voyeur shots. Just what looked like genuine holiday snaps with women accidentally being snapped topless in the background.

Across all the photos I found that 46% of the women across all the beaches were topless. And that just included the ones topless at the moment the photo was taken. I also included women up walking around, or perhaps just arriving or leaving, of which many more were covered up. How many of these got their norks out when they lay down?.

I need a time machine to go back then! Most women 20 years ago were happy it seems to show off their tits on a Spanish beach. I'm just glad some of these moments have be preserved for posterity.

I've finally got around to watching this. What an increadible video! Thank goodness someone had preserved this for future posterity. I wish I had videos like this from the beaches my wife went to in the same era.

My favorite part is not watching the ladies he's filming, but the topless women in tha background. There are very few women with bikini tops on. Almost all, it seems, if they are going down to their bikinis, the norks are coming out on show.

I would have loved to have gone somewhere like this with friends back in the day. All the girlfriends, mine included, would surely have felt obliged to go topless or look embarisingly out of of place. Top of my bucket list would be to find a beach like this now and go there with my wife and a few other couples, and watch the tops come off and the tits exposed and enjoyed by all. Sadly I don't think in this modern world I will ever find that beach.

After a few weeks after I met the girl who become my wife, she showed me some old photo albums. I was surprised that on almost every beach picture she was topless and in pictures, her mother was topless too. The pictures were taken in the 80's and 90's in Cannes, French Riviera. She told me that around 70% of the girls were topless there.

Hi, I've already seen this video some years ago, and I agree,, that's a good one. There much more on the web but even much more not published and waiting and dying in some attics.

Disappointingly, in spite of the fact she never wore a bikini top on the beach when she was younger, my wife's old albums contain no photos of her, or any of her friends, topless. There are a few shots of her and a friend on their fronts, clearly topless sunbathing, but with at best a glimps of side boob; nothing more. There is even a photo my wife took where one of her friends has a strategically placed piece of fruit held in front if her covering her breasts. But no norks on any of them.

In one very old album of my wife's there is some random mum, some friend of the family, and my wife has included a picture of her, whoever she is, sitting there wearing only some bikini bottoms and a grin, sat next to her husband reading a book. It's very odd to think I've seen this woman's tits who must be well into her 70s now, and her husband has no idea.

I'd love to have a few photos in an album of my wife and a friend or two topless. I'd love to be able to invite the husbands over for a beer and a look through the old holiday snaps. I'd love to see the look on their faces when they saw my wife's, and their wifes' tits from many years ago. But sadly, not to be.

Same story here. My wife told me a while ago that when she was young, she was always topless at the beach, as was the norm back then (the 90s). Been secretly scouring her old albums but no luck…

It really guts me that I missed out on that, as it wasn’t the norm where I grew up…

I know the chance I have, but I know there are loads of pictures and video like this. I know even that some friends of my wife have photos and videos of her topless . That's very exciting. Where are you from ? What about today , is she still topless ?

Where do you come from ? And your wife ? When you say young, how old was she ? Sometimes this kind of photos are not in the albums, but also in some shoe box's :)

Some time ago, I wrote this post in a similar topic.
This occurred in the mid 90-ties ... and back then, over here in Belgium I think about 30% to 40% of the ladies on crowded, popular beaches went topless. That probably went to 70% or higher on less populated beaches or in the dunes.

https://forum.oneclickchicks.com/sho...8&postcount=23

Wife hasn't on a beach in maybe 15 years. Around a private pool in maybe 10 years. She was always the first with her top off before that too.

I've looked through every box I've ever been able to find, with no luck. As you can imagine, with what she was like when she was younger I'm pretty sure there's some photos of her topless on a beach in someone's collection, probably some of the men her and I are still friends with.

I’m from Norway, wife from Denmark, we live in Denmark now.
She didn’t start wearing a top on the beach until sometime in her 20s, I believe, so all through her teenage years and up until she got settled I would guess.
We met later in life, when we were both in our 30s.

Will hunt for shoeboxes in the attic when I get a chance ;)