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SPLOTCH11 07-11-2022 02:18 AM

The Worst Enf Tease Ever
 
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I just watched Thor: Love and Thunder. If you've seen the trailer you know that Zeus says 'let's see who you really are' and flicks off Thor's clothes, leaving him naked. Then it shows Valkyrie and Jane enjoying the show, but then Zeus notices them. He says something about seeing who your friends really are, and moves his hand to flick off Jane and Valkyrie's clothes. The pair freak, stand up and rip off their disguises.

This was probably the worst ENF tease I've seen. Two gorgeous actresses were about to get stripped... and then didn't. Very nearly a top all time ENF scene, what a bummer!

SPLOTCH11 07-11-2022 03:15 AM

This video says it all.
jj//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0OhTaqt5yY

graeno 07-11-2022 09:18 AM

its a marvel move - theyre hardly going to depict two women with covered nudity

lonmol 07-11-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SPLOTCH11 (Post 3139788)
I just watched Thor: Love and Thunder. If you've seen the trailer you know that Zeus says 'let's see who you really are' and flicks off Thor's clothes, leaving him naked. Then it shows Valkyrie and Jane enjoying the show, but then Zeus notices them. He says something about seeing who your friends really are, and moves his hand to flick off Jane and Valkyrie's clothes. The pair freak, stand up and rip off their disguises.

This was probably the worst ENF tease I've seen. Two gorgeous actresses were about to get stripped... and then didn't. Very nearly a top all time ENF scene, what a bummer!

It's a sign of the times. To get a scene like that, you'd have to go back to the 1980's. Was the movie any good, otherwise?

SPLOTCH11 07-11-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by graeno (Post 3139886)
its a marvel move - theyre hardly going to depict two women with covered nudity

It was the first Marvel movie with nudity. In fact there was a naked man in the scene. I guess some equal opportunity nudity, with a little something for everyone, would be too much to ask for.

Dookieman 07-12-2022 08:36 AM

yeah, sadly that will never happen as long as family-friendly, (masculine) man-hating Disney own the rights to produce Marvel movies. This is one of the reasons I hate the idea of Disney owning damn near everything at this point.

facc2000 07-12-2022 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dookieman (Post 3140271)
yeah, sadly that will never happen as long as family-friendly, (masculine) man-hating Disney own the rights to produce Marvel movies. This is one of the reasons I hate the idea of Disney owning damn near everything at this point.

It's not just Disney, most entertainment companies fall under the hegemony of "woke" 3rd wave feminism, in which objectifying and humiliating a woman (any woman) is obviously always considered bad. But objectifying and humiliating a man is seen as an "inversion of the patriarchy," so in their minds the double-standard is justified. Gender parity/equality will not come until the woke hegemony is dissolved, in the meantime it will only be seen outside of mainstream entertainment. It's not necessarily easy to do, but maybe it's time for people who don't like it to create their own content.

SPLOTCH11 07-12-2022 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by facc2000 (Post 3140379)
It's not just Disney, most entertainment companies fall under the hegemony of "woke" 3rd wave feminism, in which objectifying and humiliating a woman (any woman) is obviously always considered bad. But objectifying and humiliating a man is seen as an "inversion of the patriarchy," so in their minds the double-standard is justified. Gender parity/equality will not come until the woke hegemony is dissolved, in the meantime it will only be seen outside of mainstream entertainment. It's not necessarily easy to do, but maybe it's time for people who don't like it to create their own content.

I actually think the reason for most censorship in Marvel movies is to try to please the CCP and get distribution in China. Normally the answer is money, and playing in China means millions more.

Whatever the reason it's totally lame. It's not like Marvel doesn't know how to use sex appeal: whenever Black Widow is on screen the camera is glued to her ass. For this scene it would have been both funny and hot to take things to their logical conclusion.
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anonjohn 07-12-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by facc2000 (Post 3140379)
It's not just Disney, most entertainment companies fall under the hegemony of "woke" 3rd wave feminism, in which objectifying and humiliating a woman (any woman) is obviously always considered bad. But objectifying and humiliating a man is seen as an "inversion of the patriarchy," so in their minds the double-standard is justified. Gender parity/equality will not come until the woke hegemony is dissolved, in the meantime it will only be seen outside of mainstream entertainment. It's not necessarily easy to do, but maybe it's time for people who don't like it to create their own content.

I'm not sure it's "woke" or whatever culture war narrative has been spun in some quarters.

The history of cinema shows that any halfway competent film maker can find a "compelling" narrative or artistic reason (even an apparently woke feminist one) to get women's clothes off. I think the censorship is to do with appealing to particular markets/demographics/countries/target certification - market forces.

SPLOTCH11 07-12-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lonmol (Post 3139924)
It's a sign of the times. To get a scene like that, you'd have to go back to the 1980's. Was the movie any good, otherwise?

Yeah, it was super funny with a lot of laugh out loud jokes and the action was really good. Christian Bale was a great villain, though he needed to be in the movie more.

abagel 07-12-2022 05:21 PM

The movie was one of the really strong ones- it's funny, as a super fan of ENF, this didn't bother me and actually made me chuckle, since it's the first "naked woman" joke really made in the MCU for a while or up to this point- and could be a hint of things to come down the road. I think it would definitely be played more for ENF or comedy anyways, so money is good there. Either way, movie is fine without it, although two of my favorite things together would be amazing. I just joked with a friend about how close we had gotten. But there's always fanfic for now!

schlubby 07-12-2022 10:47 PM

It’s been pointed out many times that male nudity, especially rear, is considered funny, but female nudity is considered sexy. Marvel is fine doing comedy but not sexy. I don’t think it’s any more complicated or political than that. Not likely to see any real nudity from Marvel, ever, in my opinion.

If my comment is the one that pushes this thread over the too much discussion limit, so be it.

CATOneCC123 07-13-2022 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SPLOTCH11 (Post 3139788)
I just watched Thor: Love and Thunder. If you've seen the trailer you know that Zeus says 'let's see who you really are' and flicks off Thor's clothes, leaving him naked. Then it shows Valkyrie and Jane enjoying the show, but then Zeus notices them. He says something about seeing who your friends really are, and moves his hand to flick off Jane and Valkyrie's clothes. The pair freak, stand up and rip off their disguises.

This was probably the worst ENF tease I've seen. Two gorgeous actresses were about to get stripped... and then didn't. Very nearly a top all time ENF scene, what a bummer!

I agree. However, let's be honest, though: we've seen Tessa Thompson (Valkyrie) naked, and she has small breasts. We haven't seen Natalie Portman (Jane) in the nude yet, though, so it remains to be seen how large her breasts are. In case you're wondering, yes, I'm a huge fan of women with large breasts. Also, I mean, I know that it's not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but there was two Fantastic Four movies with Jessica Alba as Sue Storm in them from 2005 & 2007. The first one had her strip down to her bra and panties on the Brooklyn Bridge; and I was disappointed that her no-nudity clause prevented us from seeing her completely naked.

CATOneCC123 07-13-2022 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by facc2000 (Post 3140379)
It's not just Disney, most entertainment companies fall under the hegemony of "woke" 3rd wave feminism, in which objectifying and humiliating a woman (any woman) is obviously always considered bad. But objectifying and humiliating a man is seen as an "inversion of the patriarchy," so in their minds the double-standard is justified. Gender parity/equality will not come until the woke hegemony is dissolved, in the meantime it will only be seen outside of mainstream entertainment. It's not necessarily easy to do, but maybe it's time for people who don't like it to create their own content.

Yes, I couldn't agree more. I absolutely hate "woke" 3rd wave feminism. It has been a really long time since there's been a comedy movie or even a superhero movie with legitimate fanservice ENF. I blame that on the "Me Too" movement.

Jairzinhode 07-13-2022 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CATOneCC123 (Post 3140560)
Yes, I couldn't agree more. I absolutely hate "woke" 3rd wave feminism. It has been a really long time since there's been a comedy movie or even a superhero movie with legitimate fanservice ENF. I blame that on the "Me Too" movement.

That’s true, but it seems like wokeness is over the hill, because it makes companies that embrace it loose money. They can‘t afford that forever

lonmol 07-13-2022 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CATOneCC123 (Post 3140559)
I agree. However, let's be honest, though: we've seen Tessa Thompson (Valkyrie) naked, and she has small breasts. We haven't seen Natalie Portman (Jane) in the nude yet, though, so it remains to be seen how large her breasts are. In case you're wondering, yes, I'm a huge fan of women with large breasts. Also, I mean, I know that it's not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but there was two Fantastic Four movies with Jessica Alba as Sue Storm in them from 2005 & 2007. The first one had her strip down to her bra and panties on the Brooklyn Bridge; and I was disappointed that her no-nudity clause prevented us from seeing her completely naked.

We HAVE seen Natalie Portman nude. There are topless beach photos of her that were taken around the time those awful Star Wars prequels came out. She has small perfect breasts.

sealab2021 07-13-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lonmol (Post 3140627)
We HAVE seen Natalie Portman nude. There are topless beach photos of her that were taken around the time those awful Star Wars prequels came out. She has small perfect breasts.

She was also bottomless in "Hotel Chevalier" but it was a side view only so you don't really see anything.

SPLOTCH11 07-13-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by schlubby (Post 3140536)
It’s been pointed out many times that male nudity, especially rear, is considered funny, but female nudity is considered sexy. Marvel is fine doing comedy but not sexy. I don’t think it’s any more complicated or political than that. Not likely to see any real nudity from Marvel, ever, in my opinion.

If my comment is the one that pushes this thread over the too much discussion limit, so be it.


I guess there's something to that, since we all find naked women as sexy. Personally I think if Valkyrie and Jane had been stripped it would have been both funny and sexy.

I had no idea there's a discussion limit. That's wild.

SPLOTCH11 07-13-2022 03:40 PM

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She was also bottomless in "Hotel Chevalier" but it was a side view only so you don't really see anything.

I think both these women are totally gorgeous and would love to see more.

lonmol 07-13-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SPLOTCH11 (Post 3140779)
I think both these women are totally gorgeous and would love to see more.

I like Natalie Portman, but she was totally miscast in the Thor movies. They were probably trying to bring in the Star Wars fans, at the time. Now, the Marvel films are more popular than the Star Wars films (and they're not nearly as bad).

hal9000i 07-13-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CATOneCC123 (Post 3140560)
Yes, I couldn't agree more. I absolutely hate "woke" 3rd wave feminism. It has been a really long time since there's been a comedy movie or even a superhero movie with legitimate fanservice ENF. I blame that on the "Me Too" movement.

That's the state of affairs these days, sorry to say.

And even if they do throw something out there, it's hard to say what's real, what's a body double, what's been digitally altered...

Big stars have body doubles on set as a matter of course...this gives everyone the ability to say what they want at a given time and then back track it later and it's all somewhat true. They can use a scene to create publicity and word of mouth, then 5 years later claim it was a body double...or a mix-- it was some shots of the star, others of the double...the directors says one thing in an interview, the star in another.

So you really can have a star whose done nudity later claim "I've never done nudity"...and what's the truth? the waters are so muddied by design that you can't tell...

The movie "Your Highness" is a perfect example. That came out and it was played up by the studio that Natalie Portman was in a thong...then years later she denied it was her...said it was a body double. Then I think the story became it was half and half...that there was some digital alteration. ..whatever...who knows what the story will be down stream...

lonmol 07-13-2022 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hal9000i (Post 3140829)
That's the state of affairs these days, sorry to say.

And even if they do throw something out there, it's hard to say what's real, what's a body double, what's been digitally altered...

Big stars have body doubles on set as a matter of course...this gives everyone the ability to say what they want at a given time and then back track it later and it's all somewhat true. They can use a scene to create publicity and word of mouth, then 5 years later claim it was a body double...or a mix-- it was some shots of the star, others of the double...the directors says one thing in an interview, the star in another.

So you really can have a star whose done nudity later claim "I've never done nudity"...and what's the truth? the waters are so muddied by design that you can't tell...

The movie "Your Highness" is a perfect example. That came out and it was played up by the studio that Natalie Portman was in a thong...then years later she denied it was her...said it was a body double. Then I think the story became it was half and half...that there was some digital alteration. ..whatever...who knows what the story will be down stream...

Margot Robbie certainly doesn't mind doing nudity, and she had a really good ENF moment in the Wolf of Wall Street.

lonmol 07-13-2022 07:00 PM

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There's a comic book featuring Harley Quinn putting together her outfit by stealing various articles of clothing from her female victim's (this may be part of it-see photo). I believe it's where they got her current look in the movies from. What a fantastic ENF/EUF this could have been if they'd done it on screen.

lonmol 07-13-2022 07:06 PM

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In another issue, she strips Wonder Woman and steals her costume.

SPLOTCH11 07-13-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lonmol (Post 3140825)
I like Natalie Portman, but she was totally miscast in the Thor movies. They were probably trying to bring in the Star Wars fans, at the time. Now, the Marvel films are more popular than the Star Wars films (and they're not nearly as bad).

I totally agree with that. Love and Thunder is the first time they actually figured out something interesting to do with her. I also think that when Natalie Portman is phoning something in she's really bad, like the first couple Thors and Star Wars.

CATOneCC123 07-14-2022 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hal9000i (Post 3140829)
That's the state of affairs these days, sorry to say.

And even if they do throw something out there, it's hard to say what's real, what's a body double, what's been digitally altered...

Big stars have body doubles on set as a matter of course...this gives everyone the ability to say what they want at a given time and then back track it later and it's all somewhat true. They can use a scene to create publicity and word of mouth, then 5 years later claim it was a body double...or a mix-- it was some shots of the star, others of the double...the directors says one thing in an interview, the star in another.

So you really can have a star whose done nudity later claim "I've never done nudity"...and what's the truth? the waters are so muddied by design that you can't tell...

The movie "Your Highness" is a perfect example. That came out and it was played up by the studio that Natalie Portman was in a thong...then years later she denied it was her...said it was a body double. Then I think the story became it was half and half...that there was some digital alteration. ..whatever...who knows what the story will be down stream...

Yes, and another perfect example of this is Jessica Alba. We still haven't seen Jessica Alba's bare breasts or vulva or fully nude, because she has a no-nudity clause in her contracts with the major film studios. That scene in "The Sleeping Dictionary" (2002) where she supposedly bares her boobs? It was a body double.

SPLOTCH11 07-14-2022 05:57 AM

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Also I'm curious to see more of buff Natalie Portman's body.

StoriesforPerverts 07-14-2022 11:26 AM

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That seems so sad compared to the good old days when both fantastic four films had good enf and euf moments.

Like the world is so different from the days of jessica alba asking "why does this always happen to me?" Whilst having a bunch of photographers get pictures of her hooha.

Then again, I think every woman should have to spend their birthday in their birthday suit streaking across town so what do I know?

lonmol 07-14-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CATOneCC123 (Post 3140914)
Yes, and another perfect example of this is Jessica Alba. We still haven't seen Jessica Alba's bare breasts or vulva or fully nude, because she has a no-nudity clause in her contracts with the major film studios. That scene in "The Sleeping Dictionary" (2002) where she supposedly bares her boobs? It was a body double.

Jessica Alba is a billionaire, so the chances of seeing her nude are virtually zero, now. She was always uptight about showing her body. She even called her Fantastic Four underwear scene "the worst day of her life".

lonmol 07-14-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SPLOTCH11 (Post 3140869)
I totally agree with that. Love and Thunder is the first time they actually figured out something interesting to do with her. I also think that when Natalie Portman is phoning something in she's really bad, like the first couple Thors and Star Wars.

There was nothing to her role, and no chemistry between her and the big dope who plays Thor. Any actress could have played that character. I also don't buy her as a scientist. Natalie Portman is another actress who's uptight about showing her body. She's done it a few times, but always regrets it later on. She's said that she's "too agreeable" when directors ask her to do things, and called her masturbation scene in Black Swan "disgusting". I thought it was the highlight of her career.

lonmol 07-14-2022 12:11 PM

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There was nothing to her role, and no chemistry between her and the big dope who plays Thor. Any actress could have played that character. I also don't buy her as a scientist. Natalie Portman is another actress who's uptight about showing her body. She's done it a few times, but always regrets it later on. She's said that she's "too agreeable" when directors ask her to do things, and called her masturbation scene in Black Swan "disgusting". I thought it was the highlight of her career.

Here's a largely forgotten ENF scene of Natalie Portman from the film; Goya's Ghosts. She claims they used a body double, and it's not actually her. You can clearly see that it is.

SPLOTCH11 07-14-2022 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lonmol (Post 3141122)
Here's a largely forgotten ENF scene of Natalie Portman from the film; Goya's Ghosts. She claims they used a body double, and it's not actually her. You can clearly see that it is.

Thanks, I actually had forgotten this clip! You know, for someone who's reluctant to expose herself, Natalie Portman does it kind of a lot. That's actually weirdly hot in it's own way, like she gets embarrassed after the fact or something.

thefonz 07-14-2022 11:02 PM

There is a scene in the 2001 version of the movie "13 Ghosts" where one of the ghosts attacks Shannon Elizabeth with knives or sharp nails or something like that, and shreds her clothes for several seconds, cutting long strips into them and revealing her skin underneath, before Shannon's character is pulled to safety by Tony Shaloub's character and one of the other characters.

Disappointingly, but not unexpectedly (considering how mainstream the movie was at the time), there's no nudity, not even a nip slip. In fact, Shannon's character is wearing some sort of sports bra that miraculously escapes the ghost's clothes cutting actions, unscathed. Even her jeans suffer rips and tears. The whole thing is hard to believe, considering horror movies having similar scenes.

And this is a movie made only a couple a years after "American Pie", where she was starkers, throughout. She got a title credit in this film - perhaps in part due to her fame from that "Nadia" character. It still bugs me how I expected even a small morsel of skin in that scene, and it was dumbed down to less than rated PG.

lonmol 07-15-2022 12:09 AM

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Thanks, I actually had forgotten this clip! You know, for someone who's reluctant to expose herself, Natalie Portman does it kind of a lot. That's actually weirdly hot in it's own way, like she gets embarrassed after the fact or something.

Here she is in Hotel Chevalier. She's talked about this film being the reason why she will never do another nude scene. She really is rather uptight (which only makes the nudity better). I was shocked when she did that masturbation scene in Black Swan.

lonmol 07-15-2022 12:16 AM

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I don't want to end up as a screenshot on a porn site - Natalie Portman (talking about this scene from Hotel Chevalier). Sorry, Nat.

lonmol 07-15-2022 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thefonz (Post 3141266)
There is a scene in the 2001 version of the movie "13 Ghosts" where one of the ghosts attacks Shannon Elizabeth with knives or sharp nails or something like that, and shreds her clothes for several seconds, cutting long strips into them and revealing her skin underneath, before Shannon's character is pulled to safety by Tony Shaloub's character and one of the other characters.

Disappointingly, but not unexpectedly (considering how mainstream the movie was at the time), there's no nudity, not even a nip slip. In fact, Shannon's character is wearing some sort of sports bra that miraculously escapes the ghost's clothes cutting actions, unscathed. Even her jeans suffer rips and tears. The whole thing is hard to believe, considering horror movies having similar scenes.

And this is a movie made only a couple a years after "American Pie", where she was starkers, throughout. She got a title credit in this film - perhaps in part due to her fame from that "Nadia" character. It still bugs me how I expected even a small morsel of skin in that scene, and it was dumbed down to less than rated PG.

Pretty girl, but it's a shame she got those horrible implants.

graeno 07-15-2022 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by facc2000 (Post 3140379)
It's not just Disney, most entertainment companies fall under the hegemony of "woke" 3rd wave feminism, in which objectifying and humiliating a woman (any woman) is obviously always considered bad. But objectifying and humiliating a man is seen as an "inversion of the patriarchy," so in their minds the double-standard is justified. Gender parity/equality will not come until the woke hegemony is dissolved, in the meantime it will only be seen outside of mainstream entertainment. It's not necessarily easy to do, but maybe it's time for people who don't like it to create their own content.

lol, put the crack pipe down buddy.

brunettesrule 07-15-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lonmol (Post 3141279)
Here she is in Hotel Chevalier. She's talked about this film being the reason why she will never do another nude scene. She really is rather uptight (which only makes the nudity better). I was shocked when she did that masturbation scene in Black Swan.

From IMDB:

While Natalie Portman has later back-peddled on some of the comments she made about her fully nude scene in Hotel Chevalier, she initially said that she was sorry "she didn't listen to her intuition" and would "trust her gut more" going forward. Later, she told MTV News that she doesn't "really have regrets," but "It's more that I don't like misappropriation of stuff, like when you create something as part of a story and then a piece of it ends up on a porn site. It's meant to be a dramatic scene and part of a story. That really makes me angry."

lonmol 07-15-2022 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brunettesrule (Post 3141454)
From IMDB:

While Natalie Portman has later back-peddled on some of the comments she made about her fully nude scene in Hotel Chevalier, she initially said that she was sorry "she didn't listen to her intuition" and would "trust her gut more" going forward. Later, she told MTV News that she doesn't "really have regrets," but "It's more that I don't like misappropriation of stuff, like when you create something as part of a story and then a piece of it ends up on a porn site. It's meant to be a dramatic scene and part of a story. That really makes me angry."

Is Natalie Portman's "intuition" a tiny unseen naked version of Natalie, that sits on her shoulder and constantly urges her to do nude scenes?

HumiliationInc 07-16-2022 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by thefonz (Post 3141266)
There is a scene in the 2001 version of the movie "13 Ghosts" where one of the ghosts attacks Shannon Elizabeth with knives or sharp nails or something like that, and shreds her clothes for several seconds, cutting long strips into them and revealing her skin underneath, before Shannon's character is pulled to safety by Tony Shaloub's character and one of the other characters.

Disappointingly, but not unexpectedly (considering how mainstream the movie was at the time), there's no nudity, not even a nip slip. In fact, Shannon's character is wearing some sort of sports bra that miraculously escapes the ghost's clothes cutting actions, unscathed. Even her jeans suffer rips and tears. The whole thing is hard to believe, considering horror movies having similar scenes.

Ah yes, the Jackal scene. The character is actually stripped to a real bra. Though you are right! There's a shot of one of the cups having been pulled down and a strip of her shirt conveniently covering everything. I'm usually not into overly violent/bloody stripping but I always kind of liked the scene. It just always went by a little too fast and quickly ended, IMO. But the purpose was probably to be more scary than sexy.


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